r/Borderlands4

Just to state the obvious.

This post is clearly subjective and just my own personal thoughts.

BL4 is great game and recent update that finally added proper, fun endgame loop AND waaaaay better alt leveling option than goddamn vile bounties, made the game a proper addition to Borderlands family of games.

But as we're one big expansion away from the end of roadmap - I finally got thinking about what I personally don't like in BL4.

Thankfully the list is not long as IMO the game is super fun and easly my 3rd favorite BL/WL game.

Anyway to the point. Things I don't want to see in BL5:

1 - Open world.

It was a cool experiment, the idea of freedom is here but - just like soooo many open world games - it's just not that much fun tbh.
I MUCH more prefer "wide linear" design of BL3 where each planet had massive map to explore but the overall game design was linear. IMO BL3 hit the sweetspot combining exploration with better pacing.

Not to mention, open world kinda kills the pacing AND biome diversity.

2 - Different licensed parts on guns.

Just like with open world. I get the idea behind it. On paper - awesome. The idea was to create more diverse playstyles. In reality tho - You're actually griding even more to get THE roll and combination that's sooooo much more powerfull then the others. So smth that was supposed to open up gameplay, actually made it worse by having to grind more for specific combinations.

3 - Almost entire endgame relies on timers.

Like I said. Recent endgame updates were great! That being said - Everything is about timers now.
Game is rewarding you from using THE most OP, meta build that skips entire sections of gameplay and punishes you from experimenting with builds or using off-meta weapons.

I would totally get if clearing endgame content under 12min. gave you achivement or cosmetic as a reward but being FORCED to farm in specitif timeframe goes against a lot of looter shooter principles.

4 - And finally: Class balance.

We're almost a year into BL4 lifecycle and game still has entire trees that are soooo underpowered that almost noone uses them.
And adding to the point before - about endgame forcing you to use meta builds - there's literally no reason to use certain trees/skills. It's crazy how much BL4 relies on meta builds. IMO - way more than any previous BL games.

Aaaand that's about it.

I love the game but it's not my favorite. I think it's ok tho - There were a lot of new ideas and risks taken with this one and I'm glad for it. I also hope Gearbox is NOT gonna go towards "live service" route and BL 5 will still be a solo/coop game.

Sorry for long post.

Hey all, I recently came back to the game with the new content, and after finding out about the Honey Badger shield I created another Amon with the sole intention of putting together a Slippy+Shatterwight Berserk build, which I did. Tons of fun, I am having such a blast (pun intended) throwing fish all over the battlefield

So for this build I use the Mantra shotgun, which I already know is Bloomreaper's rarest drop. I don't think I have ever actually seen one drop myself, and my friend who gave it to me said it's the only one he had in his entire vault. That's OK, I have patience and have done my share of farming.

So I go there this morning, set it to UVHM 1 (for my own sanity and ease), and get to Bloomreapin'. I am running it currently with the newly created Amon, although he's not my most OP build I want him earning the specialization points. As such, I usually get the Gold Rank when solo'ing him, not the Platinum. I also counted how many times I kill him, to try and get an estimate of Mantra drop rate.

I have killed him 16 times so far this morning (13 Gold Rank, 3 Silver Rank). I have a huge pile of Jetsetters and Undershields, and enough Legendary Class Mods to build a small city out of. But not a single Mantra. Then I got to thinking about it....one time I think I remember reading that certain drops can only be possible if you win with high enough rank.

So can I only get the Mantra if I win with Platinum rank? If this is the case I need to switch to another character or do it in co-op. I would prefer to farm with the new character, for the specialization XP, but the whole point of doing this is to get Mantra (the one my friend gave me is not a great roll).

Thanks in advance.

We could have actual options instead of just the Teen Witch if you did that. Come on. Let us have Seein Dead 2.0 please 🥲

Firmware help

for example, I'm farming the falke atm and i would like to know if all its available parts and what the parts buff on the gun so i can know if i have a good roll on it. any recommended websites for this or anything?? i used to use loot lemon for the bl3 era but it doesnt seem to be the same way for bl4...

The Steam Summer Sale has all versions of 4 at 50% off. So I PTT on the Super Deluxe. I can't wait to join in. This is the first time I didn't Pre-Order and play D1. Was low on dough and reluctantly decided to wait for a good sale. I feel It's a great deal. I'm happy to be a Vault Hunter again.

The problem with Thol in particular is that his mechanic is balanced in such a way that you are encouraged not to engage with it at all.

The way it's meant to work is that he's got three types of minions: One that restores shields and is weak to shock, one that restores armour and is weak to corrosive and one that restores health and is weak to fire. You're meant to kill Thol, while also targeting the minions to keep him from being healed.

The problem is that the minions:

1. Have too much health

2. Respawn way too fast

This leads to a situation where if you actually go out of your way to target the minions, you're losing so much dps uptime on Thol that he'll eventually just recover all the health you've taken off him.

Instead, the only way to effectively fight Thol is to have a build that deals enough damage to tear through the healing and ignore the minions outright.

The bonus kill times also seem to emphasize that you're not supposed to actually play the fight the way it seems to be designed to be beat, but just have a broken build that can disregard the mechanics in their entirity.