r/Boxing

For anything that doesn't need its own thread.

I started watching in the 00's and I loved boxing. There were so many big names, a lot of fights to tune into. Rising stars, dominant champions, the whole deal. I found myself watching a whole plethora of fights throughout the year. Then, I got more and more into MMA and I watch the UFC almost exclusively. I watch big boxing fights so that's maybe one or two fights a year. This year so far it was Shakur vs Lopez and Inoue vs Nakatani. Now, I'm not saying there weren't other spectacular fights - Dubios vs Wardley was good, Benavidez vs Ramirez etc, I just didn't time in live.

I'm not trying to say that boxing doesn't have anything to offer or that they only have boring fights. I just can't put my finger on exactly why it's less appealing and I don't think it's only me. A lot of my friends were big boxing fans (like myself) and most of them don't even tune into any fight, no matter how big. The last one we watched was Canelo vs Crawford and that was nine months ago. Meanwhile, I'm watching every big UFC main card of which there's probably one a month on average and on a fight night, I won't miss the main event.

Did MMA steal boxing fans? That sounds like a weird thing to say but I just the UFC in particular stole a huge fanbase from boxing.

The title is pretty self explanatory, whats the most egregious case of a fighter who habitually gives up when the going gets tough, Im not talking about specific examples from one fight but a pattern of behavior.

Examples I can immediately think of are Chavez Jr and Golota, but I’m sure there are worse examples I can’t immediately think of.

Key details:

— Matchroom do not plan to move from their position of not allowing Zuffa involvement, and are open to Sela acting as a neutral promoter to the event.

— Anthony Joshua has reportedly not been paid his remaining purse from his second-round knockout of Kristian Prenga on July 25th. Matchroom are seeking for this to be amended.

— Matchroom are seeking for a guarantee for a selection of their star talent to gain undercard placements. Those proposed – but not yet signed – bouts include a bantamweight unification between three-division champion Jesse “Bam” Rodriguez and Mexico’s WBC champion Christian Medina, a WBA secondary welterweight title fight between England’s Jack Catterall and American Keyshawn Davis and the WBA heavyweight championship pitting Murat Gassiev versus Jarrell “Big Baby” Miller.

Edit : Top 14, actually
#1 Tony Zale vs. Billy Pryor (1941) : 135,132 at Juneau Park

#2 Julio César Chávez vs. Greg Haugen (1993) : 132,274 at Estadio Azteca

#3 Jack Dempsey vs. Gene Tunney (1926) : 120,557 at Sesquicentennial Stadium

#4 The Long Count Fight (1927) : 104,943 at Soldiers' Field

#5 Max Schmeling vs. Walter Neusel (1934) : 102,000 at Sandbahn Lokstedt, Hamburg

#6 Anthony Joshua vs Daniel Dubois (2024) : 98,128 at Wembley Stadium

#7 Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte (2022) : 94,000 at Wembley Stadium

#8 Jack Dempsey vs. Georges Carpentier (1921) : 91,613 at Boyle's Thirty Acres

#9 Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Klitschko (2017) : 90,000 at Wembley Stadium

#10 Len Harvey vs Jock McAvoy IV (1939) : 90,000 at White City Stadium

#11 Jack Dempsey vs. Luis Ángel Firpo (1923) : 88,228 at the Polo Grounds

#12 Joe Louis vs. Max Baer (1935) : 84,831 at Yankee Stadium

#13 Jack Dempsey vs. Jack Sharkey (1927) : 82,000 at Yankee Stadium

#14 Carl Froch vs. George Groves II (2014) : 80,000 at Wembley Stadium

I think back to fighters like George Foreman, Mike Tyson, and Joe Frazier. And in movies you got Rocky Balboa, Clubber Lang, Ivan Drago.

All these fighters were more offensive based. And I think that’s a perfect fighting style, especially with Clubber Lang. Just go in and get the knockout fast.

But apparently modern day boxers are afraid to even throw a punch. And they act like defense is way more important than offense. Even at the very least, defense and offense go hand in hand. But I’d prefer an offensive fighter going all in instead of just standing there guarding.

So why ARE modern day boxers more defense based than offense?

We get it, boxing is a physical sport and injuries and long-term disabilities come with the territory

And seeing fighters keep going until they become handicapped or brain damaged is part of the appeal

But at some point the corner should throw in the towel even if their fighter still has a chance to win the fight. No fight is worth a man's life and you can't always expect the referee or the fighter himself to make the right decision

I think the desire to protect the dude should outweigh the fighter's legacy