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[Rant] I shouldn't need to explain to my insurance company why I don't want to be sterilized.
Sorry if this is random but I'm fucking furious and want to vent.
I have hormone issues related to long term health problems. My testosterone fluctuates and the medication I'm on for it doesn't work effectively.
My doctor contacts me about it and we discuss options.
The first option he gives is TRT (testosterone injections) and he says the main drawback of this is if you use it long term you'll lose the ability to have children. (Your body detects the testosterone and stops triggering your testicles to produce it. Over time your testicles atrophy)
I like my testicles and the ability to have children so I ask for alternatives.
Doctor says there's something called HCG (Human chorionic gonadotropin) which triggers your testicles into producing testosterone. This ensures you keep your fertility while stimulating natural testosterone and circumvents the hormonal systems bottlenecking it.
>Me: "Great! Let's do HCG."
>Doctor: ::Looks at papers:: "So your insurance requires you to explain why you want to have children if you want this."
>Me: ::Stares at him waiting for the joke::
>Doctor: ::Stares at me waiting to see if I understand::
>Me: "...Are you telling me I have to "argue my case" to my insurance for wanting a treatment that won't sterilize me?
>Doctor: ::sighs::: "So TRT is cheaper than HCG. Your insurance plan requires you to validate WHY you want kids if you want it covered. I apologize but it's not me, it's them. I can help you paperwork wise but this may take a while."
These dirty motherfuckers would willingly sterilize me in order to save a buck on medication costs. I'm genuinely losing my fucking mind over how insane this is.
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Edit: Formatting
More photos from yesterday’s federal hearing
Justice: A dish best served- Article by Portalcrasher
"On voir dire, jury prejudice, and the judges who have spent over a year avoiding the problem they’re now expected to solve."
Luigi Mangione's New Defense - Can He Put the Insurance Industry On Trial?
youtu.beWebsite Update #2: Karen Friedman Agnifilo's latest statements have now been added to Luigi Mangione's official website.
There are now two new statements from Karen on Luigi's official website.
- One relates to the events that took place on May 18.
- The other is the statement that was made public five days ago through NBC New York.
TMZ | No plea deal & latest in possible defense strategy
yea ok it’s TMZ, but at least they’ve been accurate about no pleas being discussed and have possible credible sources via the geragos connection
I’m convinced America is one massive meme…
is that a filming crew during the last hearing? Netflix? docu?
Fox News: 'Palisades Fire deadlock fuels fear that ideology is creeping into jury box — and Mangione could be next'
Original article (with video) here, copying text for legibility
Fox news article had a ton of ads and links that made it annoying to read
Former federal prosecutor warns of 'unprecedented' Mangione jury threat
Former federal prosecutor Neama Rahmani sounded the alarm on jury nullification ahead of Luigi Mangione's federal trial, warning that Mangione is "probably the most popular accused murderer" he has seen in 25 years of practice.
A deadlocked jury for the man accused of sparking the inferno that led to the Palisades Fire has fueled fear that ideology is making its way into the jury box, with one former prosecutor concerned that it could impact Luigi Mangione's trial.
A federal judge on Friday declared a mistrial for the man accused of deliberately causing the Palisades Fire, Jonathan Rinderknecht, after jurors failed to reach a unanimous verdict. He was arrested in October 2025 and charged with destruction of property by means of fire, pleading not guilty after he was charged. Ten of the California jurors thought Rinderknecht was not guilty, while two thought he was.
A woman who identified herself as juror number four spoke to media outlets after the mistrial was declared, saying there was "no proof," adding that a retrial, which the government plans to do, would be a "waste of our American dollars."
Former federal prosecutor Neama Rahmani told Fox News Digital this could be a case of jury nullification, but gave another reason why members of the jury may have been hesitant to convict Rinderknecht.
*"*This could be a case of jury nullification, or it could be a case where the jurors are blaming other people, or government, folks like Karen Bass, the Los Angeles FireDepartment," he said. "In this particular case, it took nine months for the Department of Justice to arrest and charge Jonathan Rinderknecht. And during that time, many Angelenos who lost their homes, and there are 12 people who died, were pointing the finger at our local officials saying that they were not prepared for the high winds and ultimately the most devastating fire in California hit his."
While the Rinderknecht deadlock may have been driven by anger at local officials, Rahmani said the Mangione case presents a far more direct nullification threat. Mangione is accused of assassinating UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompsonoutside a Manhattan hotel in December 2024, a killing that drew widespread public sympathy toward the alleged gunman.
With Rinderknecht's retrial set for mid-October, around the same time Mangione's federal trial could get underway, Rahmani warned prosecutors have little time to prepare for what he called an unprecedented jury threat.
"I do think the prosecution should be concerned about jury nullification in the Luigi Mangione case. He's probably the most popular accused murderer I've ever covered in my 25 years of practice," Rahmani said. "And depending on the surveys that you read, anywhere from 10 to 20% of people believe that he was justified in what he did."
He pointed out that Mangione just needs one person out of a 12 person jury to be sympathetic, and the numbers are in his favor.
"The reason why that's an important number is that you just need one out of 12 jurors if you're the defense. That's 8%. Mangione is a good looking guy, he is smart, he comes from a wealthy family and there's a line of people outside that courtroom every time he makes an appearance*,"* Rahmani said. "Both the feds and the Manhattan DA's office has to be very careful during jury selection and make sure that they remove any sympathetic Mangione jurors from the panel."
Even if the feds and Manhattan District Attorney's Office successfully remove sympathetic Mangione jurors from the panel, a different threat is still present, the former prosecutor said: stealth jurors*.*
Stealth jurors — those who hide their true biases to influence a verdict — could pose a serious problem for prosecutors in either of Mangione's cases, Rahmani said.
"Stealth jurors are a huge problem and it is not easy to identify people that want to get on the panel. Most people don't want to serve as jurors," he said. "So when a juror actually wants to be on the panels, it's one of the most difficult jobs of an attorney to try to ferret them out."
For Mangione, Rahmani said his case differs from Rinderknecht because there may be some jurors who "want to put our health insurance industry on trial."
Ultimately, the former federal prosecutor says the problem expands beyond any single case.
"I do believe jury nullification is more of an issue now than the past for two reasons. The country is more polarized and with social media, you have everyone following these trials in a way that you didn't have before when there was local media coverage only. Now people all over the country are following every single case, especially these high-profile true crime cases," he said.
Fox News Digital reached out to Mangione's defense team for comment.
Megathread: LM's NY Federal Hearing — 06/29/2026 at 11:30 AM EST
Please use this thread for live discussion of the hearing.
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Hi everyone!
Today’s hearing is taking place at 40 Foley Square, Courtroom 110 (New York, NY) at 11:30 AM EST.
Because this is federal court, cameras aren’t allowed inside the courtroom, so there won’t be any video or photos of Luigi. The only visuals we’ll likely get are courtroom sketches.
I’m not a mod so I can’t sort comments by “new,” but hopefully we can still keep things easy to follow. It might get a little messy as updates come in, so it would really help if everyone keeps discussion in this thread instead of making separate posts, unless it’s something major like a transcript or big breaking news.
Also, if you find any YouTube livestreams, please try to reply to one existing comment with links instead of posting multiple separate comments, just so the thread doesn’t get flooded.
Reporters / Live Tweeting:
Because this is federal court, the rules are stricter. Phones and laptops aren’t allowed inside the courtroom.
Only a small number of people (like ICP or Erik) are permitted to live-tweet updates. Other reporters can still attend, but probably won’t be able to post anything while the hearing is in session.
Any updates from other reporters will be shared here once the hearing is over.
- InnerCityPress
- Erik Uebelacker
- Lorena O'Neil
- Christine Savino
- Lauren Conlin
- Michelle Ross
- Chloe Atkins
- Kyle Schnitzer
- Alice Gainer
- Molly Crane-Newman
Livestreams:
So far, there haven't really been any proper livestreams for the last couple of federal hearings. The main one we've usually had is davidnewyorknynyc, who streams from outside the courthouse, so there's a chance that'll be the only one again today (not guaranteed).
That said, if we come across any livestreams, we'll share them here as soon as we find them.
Court Documents & Legal Fund:
- Court Documents (LM official website) / CourtListener (federal case)
- Legal Fund (Please keep donating!)
ICYMI:
- Federal Case Compilation
- State Case Compilation
- All Court Transcripts (Federal + State)
- Dates (Federal + State) – This is likely to change over the coming months
Notes:
- As of January 30, 2026, Luigi is no longer facing the DP, as Judge Garnett dropped those charges. The backpack, however, still remains.
- Today's hearing is expected to focus on the final jury questionnaire and the jury selection process.
- Federal case full schedule released by Judge Garnett (though this may change after today’s hearing).
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Wishing Luigi and his legal team all the best today!
And thanks to everyone who’s been following along in these threads each hearing. It’s really appreciated.
Federal Case Update: Pictures of the Defense outside court today
LM’s Federal trial has been delayed to January 25, 2027; voir dire to begin January 5
Federal Case Update: The defense outside court today
COMPILATION: LM's NY Federal Hearing — 06/29/2026 (+ SUMMARY)
Please see below:
Megathreads:
- Megathread: LM's NY Federal Hearing — 01/09/2026 (Day 1)
- Megathread: LM's NY Federal Hearing — 01/23/2026 (Day 2)
- Megathread: LM's NY Federal Hearing — 01/30/2026 (Day 3)
- Megathread: LM's NY Federal Hearing — 04/01/2026
- Megathread: LM's NY Federal Hearing — 06/29/2026
Compilations:
- Compilation - 01/09/2026 (Day 1)
- Compilation - 01/23/2026 (Day 2)
- Compilation - 01/30/2026 (Day 3)
- Compilation - 04/01/2026
Pictures:
Federal courts do not allow cameras inside the courtroom, so there will be no photos or video of Luigi unless stated otherwise. Only courtroom sketches will be posted in this section.
- Court Sketches (01/09/26)
- Court Sketches (01/23/26)
- Court Sketches (01/30/26) - Not yet available
- Court Sketches (04/01/26)
- Court Sketches (06/29/26) / Pictures of the Defense leaving (1) & (2) / Video of the Defense leaving here
Live Covering (Twitter / X):
This is a compilation of tweets from reporters inside the courtroom during today’s hearing. Only Matthew (Inner City Press) and Erik had laptop access today.
Other reporters took handwritten notes and / or are expected to post updates in the coming hours. Those updates will be posted here so feel free to come back later to check them out.
- InnerCityPress
- Erik Uebelacker
- Lorena O'Neil
- Lauren Conlin (Video summary here / Article here)
- Christine Savino
- Alice Gainer
- Molly Crane-Newman
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🚨 SUMMARY (Today's Hearing - 06/29/26):
- There are rumours that today's hearing started around 30 minutes late because Luigi got stuck in an elevator and building engineers had to get him out. The defense declined to comment when asked about it afterwards.
- Judge Garnett said "they can no longer maintain a November federal trial because of jury selection" in the state case.
- As expected, Luigi's federal trial has now officially been moved to January 2027.
- January 5: Voir dire
- January 25: Opening statements
- The federal trial is expected to last around 2–3 weeks.
- Judge Garnett said the jury questionnaire won't be posted on the docket until jury selection begins.
- The questionnaire will only include questions relating to potential fairness and impartiality. Any biographical questions will be asked later during in-person jury selection.
- Starting January 5, the court expects to bring in around 40–50 potential jurors per day.
- Judge Garnett originally said she planned to seat 4 alternates, but after the government requested 6 because of the "notoriety of this case," everyone agreed.
- Karen Friedman Agnifilo said that depending on how the state trial unfolds and what issues come up, the defense may ask the court to add more questions to the jury questionnaire. Judge Garnett said she was "holding open a space for that."
- The deadline for the government to disclose its witness list to the defense is now October 23.
- The Speedy Trial Clock has been moved from November 2 to January 25.
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KEY DATES (FEDERAL CASE ONLY):
- October 23, 2026 – Deadline for the Government to disclose its witnesses to the Defense.
- January 5, 2027 – Voir dire (jury selection) begins.
- January 25, 2027 – Opening statements.
Updated dates post here.
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Thank you everyone for today 🧡!
Luigihealthcare.org revamped.
Hello All,
Recently revamped this site created shortly after Luigi's arrest. I posted it on other subs back then, so reposting it here now. Hope it can help people as a simple resource guide!
UnitedHealth Group posted $6.2B in profits last quarter
how does LM read give send go comments? does his team show him?
genuine question and sorry if it’s been answered before but how does LM read the givesendgo donation comments when people donate? does him team show him ?
Courtroom Sketches of LM's Federal Hearing today (06/29/26)
Court sketch from today's Federal hearing (06/29/26)
Federal Case Update: The docket has now been updated with a summary from yesterday's hearing.
Source: CourtListener