r/CargoBike

Surly Big Easy VS Yuba Spicy Curry VS Xtracycle Swoop ASM

Researching the family's first e-cargo as a means for getting the kids to school and getting out for adventures. I am 5'8 175lbs and the kids are almost 4 and 6, 35lbs and 55lbs. Oldest is also dang tall! I ride a Kona Dr. Dew and they're on Woom's 2 and 3 for reference. Pretty set on a long tail as I feel like I'll have the most control. Location is Spokane WA.

The Surly Big Easy is what I want! I love it, the color, wheel size, geo etc. Reminds me of my Kona. Hangups w/ that one are the deck height and it's higher center of gravity, the higher step over (dropper post helps), and the foot placement of both kids, not just one. It seems like this was perhaps built as cargo first and kid 2nd? Nonetheless a cool bike. One I could see benefiting the family on bike adventures the most, giving our youngest breaks on the back or hauling gear.

The Yuba, looking at V4(+) or the V3 A/T. These seem to take some good parts of the Surly and drop the load down some with the 20" rear wheel alleviating those concerns. There is also a wider set of accessories for kids, though stock is sparse currently. Hangups with Yuba are many the longer I research.

  • How long will they be in the US?
  • My dealer had them on the website, but nobody there had even heard of them.
  • Many have stated poor customer service.
  • How much of a pain is it to take out the battery on the V4?
  • Not the biggest fan of any of the colors or looks, it's alright I guess..
  • Some mentioned chain rub on the V3, does that happen on V4?

Still, this might suit our needs perfectly blending school drop offs and some off pavement exploring. A/T seems cool and class 3 is definite plus with that, just not sure if it's worth going for an older model. Yuba touts enhanced laterall frame stiffness as an upgrade from gen 3 to 4. Anybody ridden both?

Then there's the Xtracycle Swoop ASM. I found them by searching "pinion belt drive e cargo" having bought from Priority about 5 years back I thought they might have something. Initially I was off put by the 24"/20" combo and Shimano Steps motor but I kept coming back to it. It's built with kids in mind first. It comes with a bunch of accessories. It has UDH! It seems fairly priced, and class 3! Hangups are the auto shift feature and having to turn that off everytime, the smaller wheels and yeah, compared to the Surly and even the Yuba it's not great to look at but bonus points for Steel. Also no dealer network. There is no doubt this would be the easiest to get the kids on and off, but our off pavement rides would be fewer with this for sure.

That's where I'm at. There are none around to test ride. One dealer can get the Surly or the Yuba, another dealer can order from Tern, but that's about it. Any input is appreciated, especially from a parents point of view. What else did I miss? Thanks!

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u/BoseJeFFrson — 7 hours ago

Flyer e-bikes price

All the flyer e-bikes seem to be significantly marked down compared to their usual. See photo for the Flyer Flex, which is the one I'm interested in. Is there a catch? Considering jumping on this asap. This would be my first e-bike and I have not done enough research but the price reduction is making me want to take the plunge.

u/Remarkable_War8919 — 8 hours ago

Not bruising fruits?

Has anyone figured out a good solution to getting groceries without bruising the fruits? Our peaches, pears, and bananas always seem to pick up some damage on the ride home.

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u/dannydoucette — 12 hours ago

Did Omnium ever try the baby carrier mount themselves?

I‘m super dissapointed. We got the omnium mini max last year, as we knew we would have a baby this may And they advertise their baby carrier mount, we dont have a car so we were like, oh nice we can go around with the baby then already. (I just got to know after having rhe bwby that there are baby hammoks for other bikes.)

I really like the omnium, i remember it being really easy and comfortable riding, almost not feeling like a cargo.

We installed everything, set it up to ride, waited till baby was three months, just to realize and notice - as the baby carrier is mounted directly to the frame- that it is way to hard for the baby with allt the bumps in the road, and it gets shaken a lot! And i went REALLY slow and careful.

Od course we worry about bones structure etc, as they are not as stable yet. And thinking of muscle stability and this baby carrier without any suspension, WHEN would it even be safe to carry around a baby in that circumstances? With 9 months? When their muscles are stable enough? But at that time, i can already switch to a proper child seat.. i don’t get it. I don’t dare carrying them around with this set up on the omnium..

am i missing somethin? am i too careful and overthinking? Please help. Any ideas, experience?

We will try to fixate it on the webbing, so there is at least a bit of suspension, but then in the end the mount is useless..

(I will mail to Omnium directly, what their thoughts are on this.)

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u/tonic_tones — 15 hours ago

New cargowagon neo 2, but led remote won't let me turn light off

I have a new bike and like like it. But I can't turn off the lights. Does anyone know how to turn lights off?

Thanks!

u/Front_Display5069 — 12 hours ago

Big kid seating for old Xtracycle longtails

Hi, I have an old Xtracycle Edgerunner 10e (LT2 deck) and my kid is too big for the Yepp seat. For various reasons the hooptie plus pad just don't work for him. He really needs a seat with a back rest. It seems like every other bike company that makes midtails or longtails has a big kid or adult seating option (eg Tern Captain's Chair) but Xtracycle doesn't. Has anyone tried to retrofit another seat onto an Xtracycle? I'm not optimistic because of the strange bolt pattern on the deck, but perhaps there's a seat out there that can clamp onto the rack?

Also wondering if anyone has found foot pegs that work with this frame so I don't have to give up the space and $$ for xtracycle's full-length U-tubes.

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u/muddylewis — 11 hours ago
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My Silver Bullitt

Shake down ride on my shiny new LvH Bullitt. This is a build I’ve been working on for some time. The original plan was a direct drive hub motor and custom LiFePO4 battery under the cargo tray, but after buying the frame new e-bike laws were announced where I live that have made that plan very illegal. As this is my main transport having it impounded would kind of suck so opted for an ultra light human powered machine instead.

Still a bit of tweaking to go but this thing flies :)

u/_______kim — 22 hours ago

Cargo Bike Bars

Hi all

Bit of a strange question, Is any one able to identify the set of monkey bars in the latest Berm Peak video.

I need to try for some to the back of my bike

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u/yo611987 — 18 hours ago

Are there any 6"7 bullitt riders?

Hey, me again.

So because most bullitt bikes are modified to let a 6'7 rider tame it, its really uncommon to test ride one with the modified set up.

There is a bullit on the market prized really well (1750usd) thirdhand.

But it is not modified to my tall body and a bit of a long drive to only testride.

Are there any atleast 6'6+ bullitt riders in this sub?

Edit: i have 39.37 inches inseam.

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u/petersieus — 21 hours ago

Benno may not be releasing new bikes in the U.S. for awhile

This was the Benno response to an email asking when the Boost EVO 7 would finally be released in the U.S.:

>Thank you for your interest in the Boost EVO 7. We are currently reconsidering our distribution plans for the United States, and the Boost EVO 7 is not available in the U.S. at this time.

>We do not yet know whether it will be released here. Even if we decide to bring it to the U.S. market, availability could still be a year or more away.

That sounds dire. They may just be waiting it out until things in Washington change (i.e. tariffs).

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u/JPBillingsgate — 1 day ago

Bullit hauling kids

Dear folks,

Are there any bullit driver who carry 2 or 3 kids ? Could you show a pic of your setup? And are there bullit rider with a rearrack fitting a child?

I want to know what is posible before buying one!

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u/petersieus — 1 day ago

Omnium Minimax v3 (Copper)

We are in love with the brushed copper finish, looks amazing!

This is our daily commuter built for us in Denmark. Ready for a baby with the mounts once that is possible.

u/EricGoesCycling — 1 day ago
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An errand boy on a bicycle loaded with gramophone records. Photo: Karl W. Gullers (1916 - 1998). Sweden - Stockholm, 1946

u/Andrzej1963 — 2 days ago

Cargo bike on my cargo trailer

We always take our urban arrow with us when we go camping.

u/OzzieOxborrow — 2 days ago
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Omnium's 15x100 fork with 12x100 Hubs - Conversion Kit

I'm about to build a new Omnium Mini Max and i want to use a Chris King R45D front hub for my front wheel (for a full chris king matt jade color matching build). Problem is it only comes in 12x100 and the Ominum's forks are 15x100.

I found this conversion kit online and i'm wondering if this is a viable solution:
https://jjpne.com/omnium-mini-max-15x100-fork-conversion-kit/

Also, i remember seeing a post on instagram where someone used this for the same reason:
https://www.stridsland.com/shop/15mm-12mm-axle-adapter/
But i can't tell if it worked straight out of the box or there was some modifications involved.

Anyone with experience with these? or perhaps any other suggestions?

u/Competitive_Many6829 — 2 days ago

I am buying first cargo bike. What do you guys think about these specs?

Been shopping for my first cargo bike for a few months and i kinda liked one that I test rode in a my neighborhood bike shop. But before making my mind I wanna share the specs list here and see what you guys think?

- Some of the things i think are important for me:

- Longtail (and not front loader.. steering them is a little hard for me)

- Belt drive

- Auto shifting or an IGH so i can shift under load

- Turn signals (I think will be nice to have)

- Should feel safe with a 5 year old on the back

- Should have good range for school plus our weekly weekend groccery trips and all

- Good brake components

- Around in 5K price range

- Not ugly lol

The bike I liked (taran l1s is worth €5.7K) and has:

- 100 Nm mid drive motor with 40 Hz torque sensor

- 693 Wh battery (plus has space for second battery)

- Gates CDX belt drive

- Enviolo automatiq Pro auto shifting hub

- Touchscreen dashboard

- Trp 4 piston hydraulic brakes with 203 mm rotors

- Dropper post

- Auto kickstand

- Built in rear camera/radar/turn signals kind of things

What do you think.. worth it?

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u/Aware_Joke_1551 — 2 days ago