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I've heard that Elon isn't a big fan of this photo (allegedly)
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I've heard that Elon isn't a big fan of this photo (allegedly)

Happened across this photo online today

u/Cannababe_420 — 9 days ago

There are no coincidences

This is info on EM image.

It is an illustration by Robert Carter, published with The Hollywood Reporter’s September 2, 2026 cover story, “Elon Musk Unmasked in Alex Gibney Documentary.” The black-and-white portrait holds a red mask of his own face against a dark background. The same art was used as the thumbnail for THR’s podcast episode “Inside Alex Gibney’s ‘Explosive’ Elon Musk Doc.”

And now on the Grimes subreddit, a copy of the same image.

There are no coincidences.

u/Independent_Ice367 — 7 days ago
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Gibney is a fool

Gibney's movie 🎥 due to his hatred of Elon Musk says that the most damaging comes from Ashley St. Clair. 
Yet, does Gibney realize Ashley is into her embellishing Girl Era. 
Being known to try to baby trap other Republicans, think I heard 2 other men. Also, being known as only as a  good time girl. 
Let's face it, Ashley enjoy the men liking her, the ultimate pick me girl.

Yet, Ashley wants us to believe her narrative like, she didn't set out to baby trap or harm Elon Musk. 
Gibney, Ashley grifted you, you staked your reputation on her. Ouch! 

u/KeyLove4525 — 7 days ago

The expanded text message

I saw this extended text message floating around. Don’t know if it is a fabrication. But the only thing I can think is that EM is too busy to handle constant texts, especially since this is a not a critical text about children, rockets or cars. It’s a desperate woman.

u/Independent_Ice367 — 7 days ago

Summary of "some" of Shivon Zilis’s Betrayals of Elon Musk

This comes from the OpenAI trial and consists of proven evidence; the rest is fantasy.

1. Real-Time Intelligence Leaks and Espionage

  • PX-167 (February 17, 2018): While Musk trusted Zilis to handle communications, she acted as an informant for Sam Altman. Just a day after telling Musk she would stay "close and friendly" to OpenAI to "keep info flowing," she was feeding Altman exact details regarding Musk’s recruitment efforts for Tesla, filtering out candidate names like Wojciech and Scott, and probing whether Musk had reached out to the DOTA team.
  • "Trust Frameworks": In the exact same exchange, right after leaking Musk’s moves, Zilis asked Altman to establish secret "trust frameworks" so they could continue collaborating and assisting each other behind Musk's back without getting caught.

2. Gradual Normalization of the For-Profit Model

  • DX-0627 (July 18, 2017): Zilis casually slipped the idea of converting OpenAI into a for-profit entity ("assuming OpenAI converts from being a non-profit") to Musk and Sam Teller. She presented the abandonment of the original non-profit mission as a minor, technical premise needed for a hardware deal (Cerebras), gradually eroding Musk’s resistance through repetition.
  • Shielding Behind Others & Weaponizing Paranoia: In DX-0627, she used Greg Brockman and Ilya Sutskever as shields to push the narrative that AGI required "prioritizing speed over safety" to beat Google/DeepMind. She continuously fed Musk’s concerns about Demis Hassabis to validate abandoning the original open, non-profit ethos.

3. Architecting the "Divestment Blueprint" & Programmed Dilution

  • DX-0664 (August 30, 2017 – OpenAI Starting Sketch): Zilis drafted a governance and financial structure designed as a trap. On paper, she proposed that Musk provide $110 million (81% of initial cash) for a 55% stake. In the fine print, however, she explicitly outlined a plan to reduce him to a minority stake in just 1–2 funding rounds, creating the legal machinery to strip him of control once his capital was secured.
  • Nullifying Veto Power (Creative Overrule): In both DX-0664 and DX-0657, she proposed an expanded board of directors with a unanimous "overrule provision," ensuring Musk would be permanently blocked by a unified front aligned with Altman and Brockman.

4. Actively Negotiating Against Her Own Employer

  • DX-0657 (August 27, 2017): In an email to Jared Birchall and Sam Teller following a two-hour meeting with Brockman and Ilya, Zilis acted as OpenAI’s spokesperson rather than Musk’s advocate. She framed it as an "absolute non-negotiable" that Musk (or anyone else) have total control over AGI.
  • The "Time Trap": In DX-0657 (and her subsequent email to Musk on August 28), she tied executive control to physical time commitments (requiring 5–10 hours per week). Knowing Musk was running Tesla and SpaceX, this was a calculated trap designed to create a "logical" excuse to strip him of operational command.
  • Advocating Equity for OpenAI Founders: Zilis pushed for substantial equity stakes for OpenAI's founders and an expanded employee pool, actively structuring the commercialization of the company against Musk's interests.

5. Covert Backdating and Covert Information Brokering

  • Backdated Resignation: On March 25, 2018, Zilis asked Musk to send a resignation note to the OpenAI board backdated to February 20, 2018, helping clean up the timeline while she was already fully operational in alignment with Altman.
  • Using Intermediaries for Psychological Manipulation: She consistently routed messages, drafts, and analytical breakdowns through Sam Teller and Jared Birchall to manipulate Musk indirectly and soften his stance before approaching him directly.
u/Nervous-Driver-4549 — 7 days ago

The Shadow of Epstein’s Network: Reid Hoffman’s Obsession with Musk.

Reid Hoffman, a man whose staggering corporate ego is matched only by his deep-seated, pathetic complex of inferiority, has spent years obsessively stalking Elon Musk’s every move like a bitter ex who simply cannot accept that the world moved on without him.

Naturally, our dear Reid couldn’t resist playing the role of "star witness" in Alex Gibney’s bloated, four-hour anti-Musk hit piece. There he was, delivering back-of-the-napkin psychoanalysis and comparing Musk to Louis XIV ("L'état, c'est moi"). It takes a special kind of shamelessness for a backroom operative who built his entire career off riding other people's coattails to lecture anyone on leadership.

Let's look back at his glorious legacy during the PayPal days:

Musk wanted to scale the company into a global financial juggernaut. But the Confinity crew, shadow-steered by Hoffman, Thiel, and Levchin, went into full hysterics, preferring to remain comfortably huddled in their tiny, insignificant little corner of the tech world.

In September 2000, while Musk was on a flight to his honeymoon, Hoffman and his fellow conspirators pulled off a spineless, backstabbing coup in the corporate hallways to replace him.

The punchline? Despite their dirty trick, Musk remained the largest shareholder. When eBay bought PayPal in 2002 for $1.5 billion, Musk walked away with $180 million that went straight into launching SpaceX and Tesla. Meanwhile, Hoffman used his undeserved windfall to brand himself a "genius" venture capitalist (LinkedIn, Facebook, OpenAI, and the rest of the corporate parasites). Ever since, hunting Musk has become Hoffman’s sad, full-time obsession, yet the harder this bitter establishment figure tries to tear Musk down, the more pathetic he looks as Musk’s empire grows.

And to top off the portrait of this spineless character, unsealed Department of Justice files tied to Jeffrey Epstein gave the public a front-row seat to his groveling correspondence with the disgraced billionaire (all part of the official public record):

  • Financial Matchmaking (2014): In January 2014, Epstein and Bill Gates chuckled over how Hoffman was desperately looking to stash cash in donor-advised fund (DAF) structures.
  • Bootlicking Updates (2015–2016): By 2015, Hoffman was sending sycophantic little private notes to Epstein, and by 2016 he was regularly shooting over newsletters updating Epstein on OpenAI and his other pet projects. PNG
  • Used as a Bargaining Chip (2014): Epstein casually dropped Hoffman’s name in emails to Musk, trying to use Reid as cheap bait to get Elon's attention.

Emails show Epstein tasking Hoffman with the desperate mission of luring Musk to his infamous island. Hoffman failed miserably, whining in his own emails to Epstein about his awkward social failures and how nobody wanted to be around him. He was fat and "wondered" if girls would want to be with him, girls who, of course, were anything but free. They would have no choice but to be with him. One can only imagine the horror. Yet here’s this guy lecturing us about "breeder" women who have received millions of dollars.

When OpenAI emerged as AI’s crowning achievement, the parasite strategy repeated itself. While Musk originally backed OpenAI as a non-profit to protect humanity, Hoffman slithered onto the board, linked arms with Microsoft, and executed a quiet, corporate heist, stealing the organization right out from under Musk to turn it into a multi-billion-dollar cash cow. Hoffman’s sleazy internal board emails, including his dedicated correspondence regarding key turncoats like Shivon Zilis, show just how deep the betrayal ran. And no one forced these "breeders" to become breeders, yet they whine, though no one knows why. Nor have they returned the money they received or started working a real job.

To cap off his crusade, when Musk dared to step out of line politically, Hoffman launched a full-scale Holy War. In March 2025, reports exposed Hoffman as the primary checkbook behind radical astroturf groups like Indivisible, funding professional mobs to harass Tesla showrooms. Musk called it out directly on X: despite a dozen fake layers of intermediaries, the trail of political slime leads straight back to Reid.

And Hoffman’s defense? Running to reporters to whine about "manipulation." It’s an absolute masterpiece of hypocrisy coming from a guy who spent years groveling at Jeffrey Epstein’s feet, only to later play the helpless, innocent victim. It’s like a thief caught red-handed with his head inside the safe, crying that the money forced itself into his pockets.

u/Nervous-Driver-4549 — 8 days ago

Maye no longer follows Shivon on X. However, Shivon still follows Maye .

I wonder why Maye stopped following Shivon. Maye loved her brilliant friend and being an Ouma. Shivon’s house is also right next to Elon’s and Maye’s TX house. I wonder how that’s going to work with Elon’s custody and visitation with his other children. Definitely a lot going on behind the scenes.

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u/belugawhalesextinct — 9 days ago

The Handwritten Evidence

I miss so much when an account is shadow banned. Sonia’s posts take a while to show up. But after looking at the handwriting, it looks tike there were two different people that wrote on the leaf of the book.

u/Independent_Ice367 — 10 days ago

Is this a photoshopped pic?

This account on X posted a video of images of Elon and lil X , but this pic doesn’t look right it looks like photoshop or generated does anyone have the real photo of lil X on Elon’s back in St. Barts , I’m wondering why this account would add this picture in with the other pics in the video

u/galaxy1Staralways — 8 days ago
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It's Scary Watching My Sister Lose Her Mind (elf ears ;)

I think the baby core stuff and following pedo stuff is about exploring the terrible stuff she discovered in Elon and trying to take it on because it feels better and safer to be a villain; the villain feels powerful whereas the victim has no power. She is pretty clear about wanting to have impact ie power, like a toddler becoming giddy over their daddy picking up the fork they just threw on the ground again and again. But the commenter who said he just wants to watch her hurt herself, I think that's true. She thinks she sees something in him, that he's in pain, yes he is in pain, but a drowning person WILL take down anyone who gets close. Not their fault maybe but consequences still leave nothing but destruction.

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u/mcleannm — 8 days ago

Gibney believes the unvetted

I completely forgot I watched a video on how Starlink works. Data is transferred by lasers from one satellite to the next. It makes the data transfer quicker. I can’t believe ASC is going to law school and can’t get her facts right. I wonder if Elon knows ASC is making Gibney look like a fool? So who is the fool now?

From 2021:

“As Elon recently mentioned, the Starlink team is preparing to launch upgraded satellites that will include space lasers. Space lasers enable our satellites to transfer data between each other without having to go through a ground station. Once fully deployed, space lasers will make Starlink one of the fastest options available to transfer data around the world.

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u/Independent_Ice367 — 11 days ago

Superagency: Shivon Zillis Edition by Reid Hoffman and Greg Beato

Well now, does Reid Hoffman just really like Shivon. This was on X last year and depending who you were in Tech, you got an edition. Over 200 chosen.

Notable recipients include:
Tech Executives & AI Founders:
Shivon Zilis (Neuralink executive)
Greg Brockman (President & Co-founder of OpenAI) 
Satya Nadella (CEO of Microsoft) 
Dario Amodei (CEO of Anthropic) 
Mustafa Suleyman (CEO of Microsoft AI) 
Fei-Fei Li (AI Pioneer, Stanford University) 
Eric Schmidt (Former CEO of Google) 
Andrew Ng (Founder of DeepLearning.AI) 
Steve Jurvetson (Venture capitalist)

Political & World Leaders:
Hillary Clinton (Former U.S. Secretary of State)

Authors, Scholars & Media Figures:
Bill Gates (Co-founder of Microsoft & Philanthropist) 
Yuval Noah Harari (Historian and author of Sapiens) 
Arianna Huffington (Founder & CEO of Thrive Global) 
Sal Khan (Founder of Khan Academy) 
Van Jones (CNN host & commentator)
Neal Stephenson (Sci-fi author)
Erik Brynjolfsson (Director, Stanford Digital Economy Lab)

u/Independent_Ice367 — 10 days ago
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Elon is the type of mf that is so fat sickly and unhealthy that

No dr would risk his/her medical license by prescribing his fat ass glp1s. You know he has to have tried. Bro does not like exercise

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u/magplanklife — 11 days ago

Interesting Post on X

Seems to be a woman from Europe replying to a post by Shivon. The Cryptotrix guy had reposted it. All this happening while Kanye W song GOLDDIGGER came on for the third time today.

The Golddiggers are coming out of the woodwork tonight.

u/Independent_Ice367 — 12 days ago

Elon Voice Doppelgänger

I actually follow Adrian Dirrmann on X and it is so funny any time he has a spaces event where people listen in, Elon Musk will show up and talk to the only person on X that sounds like him. Adrian is a German who lives in Fiji but speaks exactly like Elon. It’s uncanny. When they talk, it’s hard to tell who is who.

Who Is Adrian Dittmann? Elon Musk's Alleged 'Alter Ego' Is A German Man Living In Fiji | Times Now

https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/who-is-adrian-dittmann-elon-musks-alleged-alter-ego-is-a-german-man-living-in-fiji-article-116972046

u/Independent_Ice367 — 8 days ago

The 'PR Spin' vs. Court Record: Exposing the Fake Romantic Narrative

Shivon Zilis and her dramas:

This melodramatic exit post and staged screenshot are nothing more than a desperate PR damage-control campaign to cover up documented corporate subversion and legal testimony under oath.

I used Grok to illustrate things; it didn't take much time, either. The point is to highlight that anyone can create a screen.

Let’s break down why this 'devoted, peaceful partner' narrative is completely fake:

1. The Staged iMessage Screenshot

  • Artificial Setup: The screenshot conveniently shows a casual text about a "Xi dinner" and a standard "Love you too", posted to fabricate an image of romantic intimacy and domestic warmth.
  • The Reality Under Oath: During her September 2025 court deposition, Zilis was forced to admit under oath that they live in separate homes, manage independent households, and never had a traditional romantic or cohabiting relationship. Using a staged, cherry-picked text to fake intimacy directly contradicts what she swore to in front of OpenAI's and Musk's legal teams.

On Living Arrangements and Current Relationship Status (Under Oath, few months ago-Open AI)

>Q. (Attorney): Do you currently reside with Mr. Musk in the same residence?
>
>A. (Shivon Zilis): No. We have separate residences.
>
>Q.: Are you currently in a romantic or dating relationship with him?
>
>A.: No. We coordinate regarding the upbringing of our children and spend family time together when traveling, but we live in separate homes and manage our households independently.
>
>Q.: Did you have a romantic relationship in 2022 or 2023 around the time the children were born?
>
>A.: No. That was an agreed-upon in vitro fertilization (IVF) process. There was no romantic relationship or shared household during that time.

2. 'Safe Space' vs. Back-Channel Informant

  • The Claim: She paints herself as his "safe space" and a "counterbalancing place of safety, sense of calm, and love."
  • The Documented Evidence: Court logs prove that while occupying this private sphere, she was actively serving as OpenAI’s inside informant.
    • She timed calls for Sam Altman and Greg Brockman.
    • She monitored Elon’s moods and debriefed OpenAI leadership immediately after his private conversations.
    • On the exact day Sam Altman was fired in November 2023, she reached out to pledge her loyalty to Sam and manually disabled disappearing messages to ensure her support for Elon’s rival was permanently recorded on the logs.

Confrontation Regarding Walter Isaacson's Biography (Under Oath, few months ago-Open AI)

>Q.: In Walter Isaacson’s 2023 biography, you explicitly stated that you never had a romantic relationship with Elon Musk, whether short-term or long-term. Was that true when you said it?
>
>A.: At that time, I told Mr. Isaacson that our bond had always been professional, focused on work, and later centered on co-parenting.
>
>Q.: Why did you tell the biographer that there was never a romantic relationship?
>
>A.: Because I did not view what occurred years ago as fitting the definition of a traditional, formal romantic relationship. My roles at Tesla, Neuralink, and OpenAI were always strictly professional.

3. The 54-Month Contract, Not 'True Love'

  • The Claim: She talks about going from "in love to let go in a week."
  • The Documented Evidence: Her own deposition (page 307) confirms that this was governed by a "confidential donation" agreement and an amended agreement—not a romantic partnership.
  • The Timeline: As tracked by SEC filings and court documents, the 54-month contract ($54.20 Twitter acquisition rate) running from April 2022 to October 2026 was tied to the children reaching 'real speaking age' (5 years old). The arrangement didn't end because of a sudden heartbreak; it simply reached its contractual expiration date.

Testimony Regarding the Alleged 2016 Involvement

>Q.: Did you have any romantic relationship with Mr. Musk between 2016 and 2018 while serving on the OpenAI board?
>
>A.: If anything occurred, it was extremely brief, a long time ago, and I could not pinpoint the exact year. It did not impact my duties on the OpenAI board, nor did I consider it a conflict that affected my professional decisions

Conclusion: You can't write a cheesy Hollywood script about being someone's "sanctuary from war" when court exhibits literally prove you were feeding operational intelligence to his corporate enemies from inside his hous

u/Nervous-Driver-4549 — 12 days ago