r/ElsaBloodstoneMains

I started playing the game last month, and now I’m almost Celestial on my main. I practiced her on an alt acc until I hit Plat 1 and was ready to give her a first try on my main. Now she’s literally getting banned every single game. On my alt, she started getting banned too, from yesterday until now, she’s been banned in every game I played except one. And guess what? That one game had an AFK, so the game got cancelled. xD

Like I said, characters such as BP for low elo or Black Cat for high elo (Magik as well) can solo carry because they don’t really need their team to be relevant. They’re the kind of characters where, if the player is good enough, the enemy team has to specifically run characters that counter them just to have a chance of winning.

Technically, you can with Elsa carry with the flank route, but I don’t think it’s nearly as effective as playing an actual flanker/dive character. Especially because if the enemy starts diving your backline, you can’t really afford to keep flanking, since usually nobody on your team is playing anti dive or providing proper peel. (And if the team try to hard target you, with flanking routes, I think you have to switch Elsa)

In my opinion, Elsa is OP, but she’s very team dependent. A lot depends on your team’s positioning and whether they understand how Healer can play around your traps.

I love games where I set up a trap specifically to prevent the enemy from reaching the healer, but the healer does everything except walk into the trap, or nobody tries to focus the diver with me lol

Basically, if you’re running a solo tank comp, don’t pick Elsa (even worse if they run 2 tank shield). She needs to stay relatively close to the tanks to put pressure on the frontline.

Some of the games where I’ve massively overperformed were also games where my team was simply much better. They stayed grouped, had a better composition, positioned around the backline, and actually played around my traps..

And I think that’s exactly why Elsa is one of the strongest characters in pro play. Pro players naturally play much more around their team and understand how to maximize what a character like Elsa can do.

In classic ranked, it’s more like a battle royale where everyone just runs in and tries to 1v6.

I played her a bit on release but quit because she was perma banned. I picked her up again about a week before season 9 because she was never a perma ban anymore and it felt good playing her without burdening my team mates, but in season 9 and 9.5, I feel like I hover her less because people aren't happy to play against Elsa. Especially now in celestial+, she's damn near perma banned if people don't hover her but I stopped because I don't want my team mates to suffer playing against her. Anyone else have this guilt?... though after today I feel like just saying screw it and just hovering her no matter what. As of season 9 she is my highest WR hero and even in 9.5, though I have few games played, she is my higher win rate hero.

All the tier lists being put out rank Elsa as the BIS dps along with Black cat and bucky. Some interchange but these 3 are consistently ranked top.

With that and all the complaints/feedback in discord, it's safe to assume our girl is gonna get nerfed.

What part of her are you guys hoping the devs DON'T nerf or touch?

That way she's not as strong but still fun to play. Me personally I hope they don't touch her mobility cause that's her main fun factor. They might remove the additional dmg in the dino teamup or reduce it if I had to guess.

Am curious as to what team up y’all use. For me personally I use DP team up, I used to used Dino but never took advantage when someone walks in it. I like better cuz DP brought dash cd down to 3 sec so I like it tbh though I wish the healing u got from it was a Little better and u can recall it whenever u want.

Now that the trap has been nerfed, I can't efficiently kill a diver every time like before. Is there a specific combo to punish or destroy a diver? I mostly struggle against Spidey (Venom Team-up), Magik, and Iron Fist.

I think it's mainly because my team doesn't watch my back, and I'm the only one tracking the diver.

idk what it is, usually i’m good or atleast passable with hitscan characters but with elsa idk i can’t hit shit with her

i see people run lobbies with her but whenever i’m on her i’m just the most useless fuck on earth

i see people out here calling her jane antidive but i can’t do shit when i’m up against a blade or even worse a black cat

i see people do crazy shit with her ult but whenever i try barely anything happens unless i just lead them off the map

idk man i just need serious help with everything, anything can help atp. high level vod reviews, youtube guides, pro play etc. i’m like level 8 on this character and its like every game is my first and its super demotivating

I was lowkey a hela one trick and I’m in C3 with always over 50% accuracy on her. I’m trying to play Elsa now since she’s better but my accuracy is ALWAYS 30%-40%.

I feel like theres a lot of hate regarding dino teamup and while thats understandable I just want to point out some of the ways the value of a trap can be nullified.

First of all, if you are a vanguard who can take like 2 seconds of damage without dying by putting up a shield or otherwise negating damage, and you see a trap being placed you *SHOULD* walk into it. This significantly devalues the trap from a nearly guarenteed kill on one of your teammates to a measly 100 damage for your supports to patch up. If youre able to put something like a groot or Emma wall over it, that can also trigger it safely.

This trap is supposed to counter dive which it does a fairly good job at but i think almost every dive character save for BP has options to respond to or play against it.

Daredevil/Ironfist - Blocks damage and gains overshield, usually able to disengage without risk of dying after being trapped

Spiderman - symbiote teamup reduces followup damage long enough for them to retreat safely

Magik - often intangible triggering trap without getting immobilized, by the time they are in your backline they have the overshield health pool of a tank

Venom - Very rng if they happen to clip trap during their escape due to nature of the way he escapes by swinging away. Otherwise trap is barely a factor.

Psylocke/Angela - team-up clone triggers trap before their dive

Counterplay is important. And I think its good that a lot of characters have *unique* methods of handling Elsa's trap. However Im not a huge fan of the health reduction on the trap since a lot of the ambient damage in a game kinda takes care of trap without really trying. Its unlikely that a character isnt holding down primary during a team fight or dive in the first place so theyre already probably going to break trap without taking into account all the jubilee fireworks, Ironman splash damage, dino lasers aiming who knows where. If I were to suggest a nerf, Id rather see the damage of the trap be nerfed so Elsa needs to be more intentional to secure a kill from it, the duration of the immobilize effect got nerfed and I think that was also fair. I dont think the health of the trap was the issue with breaking it, I think people simply werent trying to break it. But now its pretty common for it to break without any thought put into trying to do so.

I dont think trap is very fun to play against for sure but theres a lot of things I dont think are very fun to play against. I just dont think its very good design for it to be <accidentally> taken care of because they already happened to be shooting when it triggered especially when theres already ways for them or their team to nullify the value of a trap in the first place.

I play almost all tanks, supports and DPS except Angela, BP, Spidey, Psy, Jean, torch, black cat. I have just a little time on those heroes but all the other ones I have a pretty decent amount of time on.

I was wondering mainly Does Elsa have a go to Combo? What playstyle should I be doing? Does she have multiple playstyles? What's the hardest part about using her effectively? What's her weakness and strengths? Any Keybinds or settings I should make just for her.

Some of these questions may seem light or easy but I always feel everyone has an assumption about a character until they actually play them and realize "Oh....there's more to this" Experience is way better than assuming.