r/ExAndClosetADD

Malaya Na!

Pandemic Era (2020) ako naanib, sa una excited at masaya sa bagong journey bilang kapatid. Pero kalaunan ay nanghina dahil sa mga napansin ko.

Oras, pagkahaba-haba ba naman, yung pagod ka na nga from School or Work tas puyatan pa. Yung 2 hours na pagkakatipon ay mahaba na po yan.

Pera, maliban sa abuloyan ay pagkarami-raming tulungan at ambagan na walang kataposan, tas may quota pa o target na kailangan ma reach.

Halal, iba ang pagkaintindi sa halal. Safe nga dapat kainin kasi malinis.

Paksa, kasama pa kasi ang mga iba't ibang intro. Awitan, Panalangin, at Paksa ayos na.

Walang sariling local halos ang karamihan kaya bayad monthly ng renta imbes na makatipid ay nakadagdag pa.

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u/Admirable-Wafer-1282 — 20 hours ago

Dapat pala di tayo magalit kay KDR

Narealize ko dapat pala matuwa pa tayo sa kanya kesa magalit kasi dahil sa kanya dumami yung umaalis. Nung usang araw lang, nabanggit sakin ng kapatid ko na yung magulang kasamahan nya sa choir na diakono at diakonesa ay exiters na.

Totoo talagang dumadami na yung exiters kasi pati kakilala natin o mga sumu surround sating tao, marami anng umeexit. Meaning yung prevalence ng pag exit ng members ay mataas na. Hindi na siya rare case.

Anong prediction niyo sa iglesia? Feel ko di siya totally babagsak pero mangangalahati.

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u/thisisnobuddy — 1 day ago

Ang laki na talaga ng pinagkaiba!

Napakinggan ko ngayon yung isa sa texto o paksa ni KDR noong pre-pandemic, tapos kinumpara ko sa mga napapakinggan natin ngayon. Grabe, ang laki talaga ng pinagkaiba.

Dati, mas malinaw at may direksyon yung paksa. Ngayon, parang kung saan-saan na napupunta ang daming topic na pinapasok kaya sa huli, sabog at mahirap nang sundan, hanggang sa wala ka nang maintindihan o matandaan. Tas yang walang kamatayang introduction, kaya parang walang natatapos na paksa.

Napapansin ko rin na paulit-ulit na yung mga paksa ngayon. Hindi ba’t ang Dios ay nagpapakain ng napapanahon? Pero ngayon, parang paulit-ulit na lang at parang wala nang bagong maihain na aral na talagang tatatak sayo.

Nakakalungkot lang isipin, kasi hindi ito yung klase ng pangangaral na sinampalatayanan ng karamihan sa mga kapatid noon. Klaro na may pagkakaiba talaga kapag pinakinggan mo at ikinumpara ang mga dating pag-aaral sa mga napapakinggan natin ngayon.

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u/First_Champion_1606 — 23 hours ago

BA Christian Ministry ng MCGI

A Bachelor of Arts (BA) in Christian Ministry is a four-year undergraduate degree that combines biblical studies, theology, and practical leadership training. It prepares students for vocations such as pastoral leadership, youth work, global missions, church administration, and non-profit management.

Tas after 4 years magiging taga play ng video ni Bro Eli sa PM, TG, WS, LMI at Doktrina. Magiging taga kolekta ng abuloy at patarget para sa KDRAC at WISH concerts. Taga palakpak at taga praise kay mahal na KOYA.

Penge advice

Apparently im a closet buong family ko bukod sa ate ko member ng ADD. Ofw ate ko and ako college student during pandemic. I was forced to get baptized and attend the doctrine kase pag hindi daw ako nagpa bautismo papatgilin nila ako sa pag aaral. I was an active kabataan during my youth days pero dun lang ako masaya gumawa ng kawang gawa and mag TK at mag choir. Pero ayaw ko yung makikinig ng paksa at aral. Kase I don't know hindi mapalagay yung puso at isipan ko pag nagpapaksa. So wala akong ibang ginawa kundi sumunod na lang. So going back sa papatigilin ako mag aral pag hindi nagpa doktrina saka nagpabautismo. Wala akong choice kundi sumunod at lunukin ang hinanakit ko. So the baptism came. Nabautismuhan ako ng labas sa loob ko o hindi ko talaga gusto kase hindi naman talaga ako handa. After 1 month nabalitaan ko nagpabautismo na din ate ko. Dito na nagsimula ang impyerno ng buhay ko. Dumadalo naman ako through zoom lang pero hindi ako nakikinig. Bihira lang ako dumalo sa lokal kase I don't know iba yung aura saka gahaman at mga punyeta yung mga officers. Lalo na yung bagong diakonesa saka yung assistant don na malikot ang kamay. Everyday ipapamukha nika sa akin na dapat dunalo daw ako ng lokal nonstop yan. Lalo na pag asa bahay yung kapatid ng mommy ko. Tipong kung magsalita banal na banal tapos pwepwersahin yung kausap nya na makinig ng doktrina pero yung mga aral sa paksa di nya maiapply sa sarili niya. Then pag hindi ako nakakadalo inaaway ako ng ate at mama ko na bakit hindi ako dumalo ganto ganyan ayusin ko daw sarili ko tatamaan daw ako sa kanya pag di ako dumalo. I dunno. Para sila naging delusional lalo and banal na banal sa sarili nila pag dumadalo sila pero napaka totoxic ng ugali. I just can't stand them anymore. I can't tolerate everything napapagod na ako na gigising ako bubungad sa akin bunga ga nila. Parang pag nakaalis ako ng bansa gusto ko na lang maglaho. I just want to be free yung tipong malaya ako huminga. I just need opinion and if hindi maganda sasabihin keep nyo na lang sa sarili niyo. I need opinion and ano mga dapat kong isagot sa tanong nila ganto ganyan. Im so sorry dito ako naglabas ng sama ng loob po. I just can't stand it anymore po. Im so sorry.

P.s im crying and sobbing while typing this po. Kaya pasensya na if magulo kase. It's all messed up

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u/Longjumping-Tutor269 — 21 hours ago

Legit nga

Nakinig ako ng PM, potek legit nga! jinujustify nya na pangangaral daw ginagawa nya haha. Lalong nakakahiya tuloy.

Dami mong nga time magpa gameshow eh.

Kung buhay lang uncle mo malamang tiniwalag kana at halos kinontra mona lahat ng ginawa nya.

Mas madali kasi yang mga gud werks na yan eh, kesa sumagot ng mga tanong ng tao tungkol sa faith at bible. Kahit gobyerno mismo at mga NGO daming gumagawa nyan, ang matindi pa di daw counted pag iba yung gumawa haha.

Pag-ibig poba na gatasan yung mga member nyo? palusungin sa baha at malakas na ulan para lang dumalo? Pag-ibig poba na nagpapavolunteer ka na hindi manlang pakainin at kunin mo ang oras nila para sa pamilya?! Pag-ibig poba na hatulan ang mga nag-exit na sa demonyo agad? samantalang nasa biblia ang mga nasa labas Dios ang humahatol? Pag-ibig poba na bawat lokal hirap na hirap sa mga patarget nyo at di makabayad ng kuryente,lahat ng abuluyan/tulungan papunta wala manlang napupunta sa lokal expenses? tapos urgent biglang mapuputulan nadaw. Pag-ibig poba na bigla may utang ang lokal dahil sa ginanap na event like fiesta ng juice at mga senior's day?

Ay wala palang sasagot dahil bawal ng magtanong at walang consultation.

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u/Electronic-Hunt961 — 22 hours ago

PAKSA

Alam niyo yang paksa o paggawa ng paksa pwede mong i-pattern sa 7E format na lesson plan yan eh, at tatlong "competencies" lang ang kailangan mo para sa paggawa ng paksa: 1) cognitive, 2) psychomotor, at 3) affective

Then split mo into 7 parts sa lesson delivery:

1. Elicit

Activate prior knowledge

What do students already know?

2. Engage

Capture interest and establish relevance

Why should students care about this?

3. Explore

Allow students to investigate

What can students discover?

4. Explain

Develop and clarify concepts

What does it mean?

5. Elaborate

Apply and deepen learning

How can students use it?

6. Evaluate

Assess learning

What have students learned?

7. Extend

Transfer learning to new contexts

Where else can students use it?

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u/marsh_harrier_93 — 1 day ago

Bagyo lang yan, kaanib kami, pabebe girls kami walang makakapigil (pero si bonjing...)

the comics speaks for itself Kuya, ano na naman palusot mo kaya?

PM

Si khoya, nagbabasa nga siguro dito sa reddit. Kumukuha ng rants dito at sya nyang gagawing topic sa mga paksa kuno nya. Eto jinajustify nya ang panay pagibig pagibig sa palaging paksa. Ikot ikot nanaman yan.
Di nakikipagdebate pero ginagamit ang paksa para sa kanyang personal agenda.

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u/unsent_thoughts_ — 1 day ago

Ang tagal na panahon naging vice pero walang alam sa pangangaral

Ang tagal na panahon naging vice pero walang alam sa pangangaral. Ang alibi ng ibang delulu ay dahil iba daw ang kaloob sa kanya. Huh?!!! Anong kaloob...ang maging businessman?!!! So dapat hindi xa maglead ng church if business pala ang forte nya. Ikakaloob lang ba basta ng Panginoon ang pagiging maalam sa Bible...xempre dapat nasa tao pa din ang pagsisikap sa pagaaral ng Bible. Eh mukang wala naman interes sa Bible yun, sa business lang tlga.

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u/Ciontuz — 1 day ago

Because you are free..

The Romans were the most obsessive recordkeepers in ancient world. They documented taxes, troop movements, provincial disputes, weather, eclipses, everything.

Rome ran on paperwork. Governors sent dispatches. Historians wrote massive volume accounts covering everything from military campaigns to strange customs in conquered territories. Rome kept a close eye on Judea which had a history of uprisings, prophets, messianic movements, the kind of unrest that made Roman administrators nervous.

Cornelius Tacitus, 56 AD, he rose through the highest levels of Roman society, served as senator, held the office of consul, and later governed the Roman province of Asia. Tacitus was not a minor writer but rather one of the most respected historians the empire ever produced.

Tacitus wrote a massive work called The Annals, covering Roman history from death of Augustus through the end of Nero's reign. In it he describes the great fire of Rome in July of 64 AD. The fire burned for 6 days and destroyed much of the city. Rumors spread that Nero himself had ordered it set, that he watched it burn while playing music. In other words, important events were recorded by this respected historian.

Now let us first examine Matthew 27: 45 onwards on Jesus' execution. From noon until 3pm, darkness came all over the land. At that moment, the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split, AND THE TOMBS BROKE OPEN AND THE BODIES OF MANY HOLY PEOPLE WHO HAD DIED WERE RAISED TO LIFE. THEY CAME OUT OF THE TOMBS AND WENT INTO THE HOLY CITY AND APPEARED TO MANY PEOPLE.

In 15:44 of The Annals, a part of it reads: "The originator of this name, Christus, had been executed during the reign of Tiberius by the procurator Pontius Pilate. The deadly/pernicious superstition, suppressed for the moment, broke out again—not only throughout Judea, the source of this evil, but also throughout Rome, where everything horrible and shameful from every part of the world finds its center and becomes popular."

This is the famous Tacitus reference identifying Christus, his execution under Pontius Pilate, and the reign of Tiberius.

Also note that Tacitus calls Christianity “exitiabilis superstitio”—more accurately “pernicious/destructive superstition”, rather than “mischievous superstition.”

Right there Tacitus stops to explain. But notice what he doesnt say. No miracles, no resurrection, no dead rising from their tombs and walking through Jerusalem, no earth shaking, no sky going dark. A spectacular event where the dead people rose from their grave and walked through jerusalem would not have been forgotten to be written down by one of the most greatest recordkeeper of ancient rome. In other words, about the miracles, the resurrection and all other superstitions, none was recorded by history.

Instead Tacitus in his work described the whole thing as a straightforward and pure judicial matter. A Roman governor doing his job in a difficult province. A man was tried. A man was executed. The movement paused, then it didnt stay dead. That's the Roman report, a senator's footnote in the history of the empire. No angels, no miracles, just a governor solving a problem on a Friday afternoon.

Tacitus says Christ suffered what the Latin calls the extreme penalty. That phrase refers specifically to crucifixion. And crucifixion in the Roman world wasnt a general purpose punishment. Rome had plenty of ways to kill people, beheading for citizens, strangulation, the arena. Crucifixion was reserved. It was specific. It was used for political crimes, sedition, rebellion against Rome, slave revolts, piracy. It was the punishment that said publicly and visually "DO NOT CHALLENGE CAESAR". After crucifixion, the body was often left up for days unti it rots, not as justice, but an advertisment not to challenge caesar.

Let us examine how the gospel framed this. Jesus is tried before the Sanhedrin, the Jewish religious council, on a charge of blasphemy. He claims to be the son of God. The High Priest tears his robe in horror. The council condemns him. They hand him over to Pilate for the Roman punishment.

In Johns gospel, Pilate signed and prepared and fastened above the cross. It reads "Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews".

"KING OF THE JEWS". Think about what that charge really is. Thats not a religious accusation but rather a political accusation. In the Roman Empire, claiming kingship without Rome's appointment was treason. The Latin term is Crimen Laece Majestatis, an offense against the majesty of the emperor, one of the most serious charges on the books. You do not claim to be a king in a Roman province and walk away with it.

Crucifixion was Rome's supreme penalty, it's most public and visual deterrent. Crucifixion was always about politics. It was always about power. The cross wasnt a theological statement. It was a billboard with a strong message "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU CHALLENGE CAESAR".

The gospel tells you that Jesus died for your sins. The Roman record tells you Jesus died for challenging Roman authority. The Roman governor sitting in judgment that day wasnt looking at a sacrifice for the sins of the world. He was looking at a political problem on a Friday afternoon. And he solved it the way Rome always solved political problems with wood and nails and a sign.

Had you been standing in Jerusalem that day where the dead rose from their grave and walked through Jerusalem and appeared to many, youd remember it for the rest of your life. Youd tell your children, your childrens children. It would be one of the most documented events in the ancient world. Governors would have written to Rome about it. Historians would have devoted whole chapters to it. The Romans garrison stationed in the city would have filed reports because dead people walking through the streets is not something a military occupation quietly overlooks.

And yet, Tacitus writing about this exact period mentions none of it. No earthquake, no darkness, no risen dead.

Two versions. The gospel. The History. Superstition or Reality. Pick your own because you are FREE.

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u/Glad_Contest1999 — 1 day ago

Laway ni bes...

May isang ditapak dito na exiter daw ng kulto ni bes. Eto ngayon nagpost ako ng observation ko about Pauline Christianity / Christology. Nagcomment sya to the effect of saying na tigilan ko daw ang paghahasik ng "Hidwang Pananampalataya".

Gusto ko lang po iparating sayo ditapak na ibig ba sabihin kaya mo nahahatulan na hidwa ang ibang pananampalataya ay dahil yung belief mo ngayon ay iyan na ang totoo? Siguradong sigurado ka ba jan? O ang katotohanan sa buhay na ito ay walang sinuman ang may monopolya sa truth at hanggan ngayon tinutuklas ng tao ang katotohanan na yan? Ako ay nagsasalita sa isang sociological na pananaw hindi theological.

Sa 4000 na paniniwala at libo libong dios na sinasamba ng tao across history, u mean yung sayo ulit ngayon ang totoo na naman? Galing na tayo lahat sa ganyang pananaw, naloko ka, naloko ako, naloko tayong lahat. Sabi mo nakalaya ka na sa kulto pero ang tindi mo pa din humatol. May pa hidwa hidwa ka pang nalalaman.

Kung babalikan mo yung post wala ako sinabing masama laban kay Pablo kundi analysis iyon ng history at logical possibilities ng nangyari, isang pananaw yun ng history na kung anu ang malamang na nangyari. Pero sumama loob mo ang hatol mo agad hidwa eka.

May sumasamba kay Allah, malaya sila, may sumasamba kay Odin, kay Zeus, kay Jupiter, kay Ra, ang bawat isa sa 8.3 bilyon tao sa mundo may kalayaan sa belief. Naniniwala ka kay Pablo, ok yan. Pero ang foul jan, yung hanggan ngayon may paghatol ka na ito eka hidwa. Kasi lalabas jan hawak mo na naman ang katotohanan. Nasa katotohanan ka ulit kagaya lang ng dati. Ganun ulit, gaya ulit kay bes, paulit ulit lang. Basta ibang paniniwala, ekis agad yan.Hidwa yan.

Maaaring allergic ka sa isang Agnosticong kagaya ko o sa isang Atheistang kagaya ng ilan. Pero in simpler terms, hanggan hindi ka marunong kumilala, kahit wag na ang pagrespeto, kundi kumilala man lang ng pananaw ng iba, hinding hindi ka pa din nakalaya sa kulto, may kulto pa din jan sa ulo mo, at hanggan ngayon may laway ka pa din ni bes.

Another thing, remember that this is a SECULAR sub, not a sole CHRISTIAN sub.

Peace.

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u/Glad_Contest1999 — 2 days ago

Nasa bible ba

Na sa mga huling araw, kung saan talamak ang mga manlolokong mga pastor, relihiyon, o sekta. Hahayaan lang sila ng tunay na Iglesia at magfofocus na lang sila sa debateng walang kibuan?

May humamon na ba ng debate sa mga apostol at sinabi ng mga apostol na hindi na sila nakikipag debate kundi gagawa na lang sila ng mabuti?

Sad to say, yung kilala kong Iglesia dati na ipinaglalaban ang katwiran at aral ng Dios laban sa mga manloloko at bulaang pastor ay wala na.

Hindi ba nakukunsensya ang Iglesia sa mga naloloko kuno ng mga sinasabi nila dating bulaan at ganid na mga pastor?

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u/East_Drink9018 — 2 days ago

May mga closet o exiter ba dito na taga west din na early 20s din?

WEST CAVITE* Umay na ko minsan, may mga frustrations ako na di naiintindihan ng mga non mcgi ang family and mga rules na ang hirap iexplain sa kanila like bat di ako makaalis ng naka short, etc.

gusto ko magkaron ng kaibigan na kaedad ko na makaka relate kami sa isat isa pag nag rant ako. Nakakapagod din kasi minsan magrant sa walang idea sa simbahan na to kasi ieexplain mo pa lahat imbes ma express mo yung sarili mo.

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u/thisisnobuddy — 2 days ago

COLORUM?

Maraming grupo ang nagpapakain, lalo na sa panahon ngayon ng sakuna. Pero sa kabila ng lahat ng mabubuting gawa ng ating mga kapwa tao, sasabihin ng mcgi na sila lang ang legit at inutusan at may karapatan sa paggawa ng mabuti. Look at these people, all we see is their love and care for our fellowmen. Eversince i left that cult, i have seen the goodness of others. I felt that though this world is not perfect, there is a lot of goodness in it. And i have seen and appreciated the beauty of life.

u/Vast_Investigator279 — 3 days ago

DID YALL EXPERIENCE THIS TOO? Experienced it as a girl

Me and the other kapatids went to a different local to visit. After roaming around for a while, we were called to gather in a room. A manggagawa told us that, at that moment, we would be confessing all of our secrets and worst sins.

I was shocked to hear this, and I didn't really know how to process it. One of the kapatids started, followed by another, until everyone had finished. I witnessed them confessing things such as being obsessed with girls or boys, being a rapist, and other disturbing things.

I didn't understand the point of that confession. Imagine this: we are serving God, but then you hear someone confessing that they have done or thought about disturbing things, while at the same time, they are still serving God. It felt really off to me, and I didn't like it at all. What happened really disturbed me, and I am still traumatized by the experience.

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u/Alternative-Hall6042 — 3 days ago