r/Fairolives

Hi! The shade I currently am is:
Armani shade M2 in the LS skin tint or
Patrick Ta in shade 13
And while I know those are more neutral olive shades, this subreddit is likely to help more people 💕

Combos in the comments because Reddit messed up my comment and formatted it all weird when I tried to edit a typo 😭😭😭

Am I olive or just a nuetral skin tone? I find that most makeup products are either too cool or too warm for me, specifically lip products and face products. My skin looks very different in all kinds of lighting, even including natural lighting. Sometimes I feel I am ghostly pale and other times I feel like I look super yellow. I have read that olive can come off as green or yellow so I am curious on your opinions. I've included indoor pictures and natural lighting ones as well as trying to show my skin looking yellow, a bit pink/red, and also very pale

This is such a specific question I know, but I have such few matches in products to go off.

I really love Missha’s perfect cover bb cream, I love the way it looks and lasts on my skin, and its affordability. However, both shades 13 and 21 are too pink on my skin, with 21 being ever so slightly too dark as well.

Does anyone know of a similar K or J beauty bb cream that it slightly less pink? Or even if it’s not a bb cream, I’d be curious about any base products that people who likely match my skin tone like 🤞

For context, Lisa Eldridge’s skin tint in 1.5 is my perfect shade. I am very fair and very neutral and desaturated, and I’ve been told slightly yellow-olive though I’m not sure. Things can be too pink, too orange or too yellow on me very easily. I’ve never been able to get a clear understanding of whether I am more cool or warm.

I’ve trawled through reddit posts, but it can be hard for me to gauge whether I match other’s skin tones from photos.

Photo with my skin for added context. No makeup on, I just have rosacea 🙃

Some new blushes in search of a mauve. Failed on most 🤣 Shown inside and outside in shade.

1 Red Chamber Multi-Blush Cream C305 Summer
2 Gege Bear Air Cushion Blush 303
3 House of Hur Moist Ampoule Blusher 04 Lavender Flush
4 Peripera Syrupy Tok Cheek 03 Friendship Mauve
5 Peripera Pure Blushed Sunshine Cheek 24 Mauve Cream
6 Nuse Mousse Care Cheek Dimdumb

Wanted to show you in 2 different lights and show a bit of my neck/chest for the colour match! Haven’t taken any base products down my neck. I’m a fair-light warm neutral olive, and tend to look better in more saturated bright colours than muted, which can make me look very grey and unwell

Base:
Dior face & body 1W
Concealer Tower 28 BW
Mario sculpting serum medium dark
Dior rosy glow blush 107 Dragonfruit
Laura mercier ultra blur powder mint
RMS living luminizer original

Eyes:
Lisa Eldridge Betty eyeshadow palette shade Posh all over the lid
Merit clean volume mascara
RMS living luminizer on the inner corners

Eyebrows:
VIEVE pencil in medium brown
VIEVE gel

Lips:
Bobbi brown Pale mauve lip liner
Dior lip glow 001 Pink

The first thing out of my mouth was - I’m olive.

This is purely for reference. I decided to swatch all my lip liners that I have collected, after having the knowledge that I am a fair/light neutral leaning warm olive. I had always wondered why all my liners basically looked the same and differed from stock images 🙃

Hopefully this can help someone avoid some of my mistakes. Also, idk if post like these are helpful? I have other collections I plan to swatch and can post.

These are numbered top of wrist and down

1.Chanel le crayón levres , shade 162 nude brun
2.Anastasia Beverly Hills lip liner, shade muted mauve
3.Anastasia Beverly Hills lip liner, shade deep taupe
4.Pat McGrath legendary longwear lip liner, shade divine rose
5.Pat McGrath legendary longwear lip liner, shade structure
6.Kulfi lassi lips staining lip liner, shade la la la
7.Merit signature lip liner, shade Capricorn
8.Charlotte tilbury lip cheat lip liner, shade medium
9.Too faced lip injection extreme lip shaper plumping lip liner, shade hot & spicy
10.Laka stain lip liner, shade 03 hazelnut latte
11.Bodyography lip pencil, shade pouty
12.Morphe signature lip pencil, shade rock steady
13.Morphe signature lip pencil, shade wifey
14.Morphe signature lip pencil, shade spiffy
15.Nyx lip pencil, shade brown
16.Nyx lip pencil, shade natural
17.Nyx suede matte lip pencil, shade whipped caviar
18.Nyx lip pencil, shade ever
19.Versed lip frame contour, shade sculpt
20.Versed lip frame contour, shade match
21.Versed lip frame contour, shade fringe

I only discovered that I’m olive-toned about three weeks ago, and it’s already completely changed the way I do my makeup. I used to buy warm foundations and get confused as to why my face always looked so orangey. The cool-toned ones were even worse, so I wrote them off completely — I’m not pink, I’m a yellowy gray!!!! It’s confusing because I do look quite warm in incandescent light (picture 1). I included a picture of me in natural light (picture 2) so you can see what I mean in contrast. I think part of the reason I appear olive at all is because I have a semi-rare condition called hEDS that gives me thin, stretchy skin — you can see my veins and blood vessels through my skin, which pull my tone green-grey (Picture 3). Maybe I still don’t understand my skin tone? Am I not cool olive?Pointers appreciated.

If you haven’t gotten your hands on So Elemental from Colourpop yet, I can’t recommend it enough for cooler olive skin. Because I’m pretty fair-skinned, I can’t speak to how this will perform on darker skin tones, but if you get a chance to try it, please let me know! The shades are all SO Y2K. I feel like Britney Spears in this picture!

Anyway, it’s been really nice to find a community of people that share the struggle of buying makeup that works. if you have any recommendations based on the pictures I attached for colors that might work for my skin, hair, and eyes, recommend away! It’s all new to me!

(Edit: after feedback from multiple users, I’m leaning more towards fair-light neutral olive as the descriptor for my skin tone — please also understand this post is for makeup purposes, i.e. finding a foundation and product colors that work well with the appearance of my skin 😊.)

I eagerly picked up T1.5 when it was released, but found it too light and a bit too warm for me. (It made me look like an overzealous blood donor).

Purito 21 is a fairly good match for me, so I was hoping to find a similar shade in the LE skin tint. After seeing these swatches, I was hopeful T5 might work.

It’s close, right down to lightening significantly as it dries. T5 is definitely more green — especially wet — but the difference between the shades is very subtle once everything dries down.

Top: Purito 21
Bottom: LE T5

This is my palette as a fair olive, I would say if you are blonde to subtract the black and it becomes more like a summer palette. But really this palette was made custom for me and it doesn’t fit anywhere with seasonal analysis, I just decided to call it soft winter!

Hey guys, desperately asking for some help in the hopes that someone has a holy grail niche product as I've been struggling to find a truly pale olive foundation/BB cream that is a true neutral (little to no yellow or pink, think literally grey cast) for about a decade or so now and I'm tired of wasting money in the hope that I can find an ol' reliable. In specific, foundations that veer on makeup for a corpse.

I'm in the awkward very pale but translucent category (dysautonomia lol) where even olive targeted foundations are pink/yellow pigmented, too warm, too dark, etc. KVD L41 would have been my permanent best friend back in the day if it weren't for the fact that the formula was cake central, and the creator trash. Really tired of DIY mixing foundations with green or white pigments, just straight out of a bottle no thoughts would be magical at this stage.

Brands that have been no good: Nars, About Face, Estée Lauder, Mac, Missha, Tirtir, Dior, Charlotte Tilbury, Too Faced, RCMA, Clio, Espoir, Étude, Haus Labs, etc

I've been considering People of the Earth as one option, but as it's an international store I know nothing about the quality of the foundation (if anyone knows +1) or how well it'll take to combination/oily/dry/sensitive skin etc, so any suggestions on products that might work would be absolutely amazing! Thank you so much.

Edit to add: here is my forearm for example purposes

I'm considering purchasing these foundation adjustment drops for silicone based foundation (not airbrush).

My skin changes month by month and I am tired of buying foundations only to have them not match 28 later.

I think I would rather paint an accurate foundation daily than buy 10 shades from Sephora only to have them expire before I finish them.

Any thoughts?

these are different shades but anything that resembles any of them I would love 😔

Just popping back in to swatch the two I started with. Alchemy (darker, very pigmented with gold flecks) and Echo (more sheer, nude). Love the formula and definitely going to purchase some of the others I was interested in.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fairolives/s/XiiCGplcf5

I swatched these before buying the Sassy Rhubarb bc it didn’t read orange/brown (and before seeing how horribly Sephora lighting distorts color perception, and before any understanding of how muted / desaturated I am!) and then laughed at how awful it looked when I put it on in the car (you can see how bad in the last pic here: https://www.reddit.com/r/OliveMUA/comments/1u4h1wp/how_to_conteract_corpse_lips_on_a_muted_light/ )

Just thought these might be helpful for someone…

swatches are top to bottom in order of the display rack in the last pic.

Dramatic Plum

Limitless Brown

Anywhere Caffeine

Wherever Walnut

Sassy Rhubarb

Forever Passion

Lovely Peony

Legendary Latte

fyi, I swatched almost all of the Charlotte Tilbury liners here: https://www.reddit.com/r/OliveMUA/comments/1uda5n2/charlotte_tillbury_lip_cheat_liners_on_light/ and Urban Decay liners I’ve yet to post - and ironically, the Make Up For Ever extreme liners were the LEAST waterproof of all three when I got in a warm shower and went to rub them off! They came off quite easily which means they wouldn’t last as long eating/drinking as the others, but I fell for their “extreme waterproof” marketing.