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The Adams Correspondence, Day 2: John Adams to Abigail Smith, 1762–1763

Yesterday was the October 4, 1762 “Miss Adorable” letter.

The next letter in the Massachusetts Historical Society’s Adams Family Correspondence is another short note from John to Abigail, but this one has a problem: we don’t know exactly when it was written.

The editors date it only to 1762–1763 and give the location as “Braintree?” Abigail’s note that John is replying to apparently did not survive, so there isn’t enough evidence to narrow the date down further.

The Massachusetts Historical Society has this as the next chronological letter, so we will go with their dating.

The Full Letter

"Dr. Miss Jemima

I have taken the best Advice, on the subject of your Billet, and I find you cannot compell me to pay unless I refuse Marriage; which I never did, and never will, but on the Contrary am ready to have you at any Time.

Yours,

Jonathan

I hope Jemima's Conscience has as good a Memory as mine."

Some Context

We are missing Abigail’s side of this exchange, so we really don’t know what John supposedly owes her.

But John’s answer is basically that he has taken legal advice and discovered that Abigail can’t make him pay unless he refuses to marry her. He then makes very clear that he has never refused and never intends to.

So, two letters in, John is doing it again. In the first letter he turned kissing Abigail into an accounting problem. Now he has turned whatever joke Abigail made into a legal dispute.

He also calls her “Miss Jemima” and signs himself “Jonathan.”

The interesting aspect of this letter is the Post Script:

“I hope Jemima's Conscience has as good a Memory as mine.”

Whatever Abigail had said or promised, John remembers it. Unfortunately for us, they both understood the joke well enough that neither of them needed to explain it.

There is not much political John Adams here yet. But we are already getting a pretty good look at young John Adams. He likes teasing Abigail, he likes arguing his case, and apparently even his flirting can involve legal advice.

Source: Massachusetts Historical Society, Adams Papers Digital Edition

https://www.masshist.org/publications/adams-papers/index.php/view/ADMS-04-01-02-0003

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u/LocusHammer — 1 day ago
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James Monroe In 4 Famous Paintings

1st Painting (1st and 2nd Image): Washington Crossing the Delaware (James Monroe is the one holding the flag)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Crossing_the_Delaware_(1851_paintings)

2nd Painting (3rd and 4th Image): The Capture of the Hessians at Trenton, December 26, 1776 (James Monroe is the one wounded on his shoulder)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Capture_of_the_Hessians_at_Trenton,_December_26,_1776

3rd Painting (5th and 6th Image): General George Washington Resigning His Commission (James Monroe is the one seated next to Thomas Jefferson)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_George_Washington_Resigning_His_Commission

4th Painting (7th, 8th, and 9th Image): The Coronation of Napoleon (Replica from 1808-1822) (James Monroe is at the crowd on the top right)

https://collections.chateauversailles.fr/?permid=permobj_efb1c634-b95f-402f-8c6f-12848982844c#/query/eda9a168-4f06-48e1-804b-5f8e60e1f54d

u/SignalRelease4562 — 1 day ago
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The Adams Correspondence, Day 1: John Adams to Abigail Smith, October 4, 1762

The Adams Correspondence, Day 1: John Adams to Abigail Smith, October 4, 1762

I’m starting a daily exercise for r/Presidents: one surviving letter per day between John Adams and Abigail Adams, in chronological order. (Based on what has been saved for posterity)

I think this could be a really interesting way to read Adams. Instead of jumping straight to the famous letters or the presidency, I want to go through the correspondence as it happened and see what we learn about both of them over time.

I’ll post the full letter, the date, some historical context, and usually a discussion question. If the dating of a letter is uncertain, I’ll note that. The main source will be the Massachusetts Historical Society’s Adams Papers and Adams Family Papers.

I’m not really trying to make a case for or against Adams with this. I’m more interested in seeing what happens when we spend a few minutes a day with the primary sources and let the picture build gradually.

Day 1

John Adams to Abigail Smith
October 4, 1762

This is the first clearly dated surviving letter between John Adams and Abigail Smith.

John was 26. Abigail was 17. They would not marry until October 25, 1764.

At this point, John is still a young Massachusetts lawyer. He is years away from becoming one of the central political figures of the Revolution.

Their courtship developed partly through John’s friend Richard Cranch, who was courting Abigail’s older sister Mary.

And John was apparently already keeping very close track of who owed whom kisses.

The full letter

"Miss Adorable

By the same Token that the Bearer hereof satt up with you last night I hereby order you to give him, as many Kisses, and as many Hours of your Company after 9 O’Clock as he shall please to Demand and charge them to my Account: This Order, or Requisition call it which you will is in Consideration of a similar order Upon Aurelia for the like favour, and I presume I have good Right to draw upon you for the Kisses as I have given two or three Millions at least, when one has been received, and of Consequence the Account between us is immensely in favour of yours,

John Adams

Octr. 4th. 1762"

Some Context:

The Adams Papers editors identify the “Bearer” as almost certainly John himself. “Aurelia” was Abigail’s older sister Mary.

So this is basically John writing Abigail a mock order authorizing himself to collect kisses.

This is such a funny early glimpse of Adams. Even when he is flirting with Abigail, he is arguing the case for why she owes him kisses.

It is also a very different version of him from the one most people know. The Adams we usually talk about is older, deeply political, argumentative, insecure, brilliant, and often difficult.

Here he is just 26 years old and very clearly smitten with Abigail.

That is really what I am hoping this exercise captures. We already know where the story ends. I think it will be more interesting to watch them become those people one letter at a time.

Primary source: Massachusetts Historical Society, Adams Family Correspondence
https://www.masshist.org/publications/adams-papers/view/AFC01p2

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u/LocusHammer — 2 days ago
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On August 10th, 1821 (205 Years Ago), President James Monroe, Signed the Federal Legislation Officially Making Missouri the 24th State in the Union.

August 10, 1821

By the President of the United States of America

A Proclamation

Whereas the Congress of the United States, by a joint resolution of the 2d day of March last, entitled "Resolution providing for the admission of the State of Missouri into the Union on a certain condition," did determine and declare "that Missouri should be admitted into this Union on an equal footing with the original States in all respects whatever upon the fundamental condition that the fourth clause of the twenty-sixth section of the third article of the constitution submitted on the part of said State to Congress shall never be construed to authorize the passage of any law, and that no law shall be passed in conformity thereto, by which any citizen of either of the States of this Union shall be excluded from the enjoyment of any of the privileges and immunities to which such citizen is entitled under the Constitution of the United States: Provided, That the legislature of said State, by a solemn public act, shall declare the assent of the said State to the said fundamental condition, and shall transmit to the President of the United States on or before the first Monday in November next an authentic copy of said act, upon the receipt whereof the President, by proclamation, shall announce the fact, whereupon, and without any further proceeding on the part of Congress, the admission of the said State into this Union shall be considered as complete;" and

Whereas by a solemn public act of the assembly of said State of Missouri, passed on the 26th of June, in the present year, entitled "A solemn public act declaring the assent of this State to the fundamental condition contained in a resolution passed by the Congress of the United States providing for the admission of the State of Missouri into the Union on a certain condition," an authentic copy whereof has been communicated to me, it is solemnly and publicly enacted and declared that that State has assented, and does assent, that the fourth clause of the twenty-sixth section of the third article of the constitution of said State "shall never be construed to authorize the passage of any law, and that no law shall be passed in conformity thereto, by which any citizen of either of the United States shall be excluded from the enjoyment of any of the privileges and immunities to which such citizens are entitled under the Constitution of the United States:"

Now, therefore, I, James Monroe, President of the United States, in pursuance of the resolution of Congress aforesaid, have issued this my proclamation, announcing the fact that the said State of Missouri has assented to the fundamental condition required by the resolution of Congress aforesaid, whereupon the admission of the said State of Missouri into this Union is declared to be complete.

In testimony whereof I have caused the seal of the United States of America to be affixed to these presents, and signed the same with my hand.

Done at the city of Washington, the 10th day of August, A.D. 1821, and of the Independence of the said United States of America the forty-sixth.

JAMES MONROE.

By the President:

JOHN QUINCY ADAMS,

Secretary of State.

Sources and more information about Missouri admitted to the Union.

https://www.courts.mo.gov/page.jsp?id=174522: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/proclamation-28-admitting-missouri-the-union

https://www.courts.mo.gov/page.jsp?id=174522

u/SignalRelease4562 — 10 days ago
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“The Great Champion Of Liberty – Thomas Paine” by Watson Heston from the Sep 8, 1894 Truth Seeker magazine shows Paine standing over a slain figure labled “kingcraft” and driving away another labled “priestcraft” while holding a paper reading 'Political and Religious Liberty'.

u/thomaspaineha — 13 days ago