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Anubis and Hekate. This is an amazing find. I've never seen the Greek and Egyptian magical traditions so closely aligned. Hekate is mentioned in the PGM but I thought it was a Greek source.
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Anubis and Hekate. This is an amazing find. I've never seen the Greek and Egyptian magical traditions so closely aligned. Hekate is mentioned in the PGM but I thought it was a Greek source.

It is a plaster impression of an ancient Greco-Egyptian magical gem (intaglio) dating back to around the 2nd Century AD. Part of the collections at the Staatliche Museen zu Berlin (Berlin State Museums). Cataloged in the Campbell Bonner Magical Gems Database under ID Number DE-Berlin-Aeg_9864 (CBd-221). The gemstone was carved out of green and red jasper.

The voces magicae (magical words of power) combine the incantatory power of the divine world of the Ogdoad and the specific, chthonic powers of the Egyptian god of the underworld and Hekate, guide through the portals of death and to a new life in reincarnation.

The impression given by the museum curator suggests this is a gem to be used to bring down suffering on others. I suggest it's meant to protect the living and to provide guidance after death to a life of wisdom and joy in the afterlife and beyond.

Anubis combines the one who helps prepare the soul for the afterlife, as judge of the soul's life on earth, and guide through the halls of death. Combined with the invocation of the Ogdoad - the primal powers that gave birth to the universe - we see that the charm is meant for regeneration and rebirth.

  • ΦΟΡΒΑΦΟΡΒΗ (Phorbaphorbē) - Powerful, rhythmic variation of Phorba; known secret magical name used to invoke Hekate as a cosmic, all-consuming deity.
  • ΒΡΙΜΩ (Brimō) - "The Terrifying" or "The Angry One". A formidable epithet used almost exclusively for underworld goddesses like Hekate, Demeter, or Persephone when acting in their fiercest capacities.
  • ΟΓΔΩ (Ogdō) - Refers to the divine and holy Ogdoad (the number eight), which represents the eight fundamental primordial deities of Egyptian mythology, bridging Hekate's identity with the Egyptian cosmos overseen by Anubis.
u/Business-Sign-512 — 2 days ago
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PGM Pronunciation Engine. Converts Transliterated English or Greek script -> phonetics

I put together a small PGM pronunciation project on my site for anyone curious. Enter your PGM text and get back the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) and phonetic pronunciation. It works with both English transliterations and direct Greek.

If you're not familiar, the Greek Magical Papyri are ancient Greco-Egyptian spell texts, many of which invoke or involve Hekate.

This is a best-effort approximation using reconstructed historical linguistics. There's no single correct pronunciation for most of this material; it varies by time, place, and practitioner, and we're dealing with educated guesses layered on incomplete evidence either way.

Sharing it as a useful reference, not an authority. Especially relevant for spaces like r/hecate where these texts are living practice, not just academic material.

Corrections from people deeper in it are welcome.

u/BorboroForge — 6 days ago
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PGM insoired Akephalos talisman by me

Any practitioners of late antique magic of PGM here? This is my Stele of Jeu inspired talisman of Akephalos made from Egyptian papyrus.

u/NlGHTGROWLER — 6 days ago

The magician as mystagogue

I hope this photo is legible.

From _Cults of the Roman Empire_ by Robert Turcan

By Imperial times, and especially with certain influences from Egypt and the Near East, the practice of magic had itself become something of a Mystery. The magician had become an initiate seeking personal union with the divine.

Of course everyone knows about Theurgy. But we're talking about a broader set of magic here. Those magicians, sometimes denounced as charlatans by the intellectual elite, viewed magic as its own initiatory path, its own Mystery.

Is this how we should view it? Is this how you do, in fact, view it? What do you think?

u/UrsusofMichigan — 13 days ago

A quick sketch on necromancy

Terms:

  • Nekuomanteion = Oracle of the Dead
  • psuchomanteia, “rites for divination from souls,”
  • Psuchagōgos = evocator of souls = those who helped restless ghosts by locating their body and then consulted them on why they’re restless. Also an epithet of Hermes. Itinerant diviners and magicians and were prominent in pythagorean circles in southern italy. Deemed as charlatans by Plato. 
  • Goetes = sorcerers whose powers are connected to the dead. Possibly originally “ shamanic” in nature.  Oriignally their power was thought to derive from evocation of spirits
  • “Shamans” = send their souls outside of themselves, they perform these rites in underground chambers of wisdom, and have an ability to prophecy.  Linked to the Pythagorean tradition.

 

First literary reference  = The Odyssey. We can trace the literature from classical Greece to the fall of Rome.  However, the only  direct “documentary” evidence for necromancy is the PGM and is influenced by the Egyptian understandings. 

Necromancers were typically male Greeks, but the literati placed their origins in Egypt and Near East. Pythagoras reputedly learned mysticism in Egypt and Babylon. The Persian magi are associated with necromancy. In literature, women become associated with the art and are usually portrayed as wicked or evil.  Necromancy was always considered odd, and the Platonists in particular condemned it. Romans in particular feared necromancy and, not by coincidence, most of the depraved emperors were said to use it.

Necromancy is similar to practices Greeks used to placate the dead in their tombs.  Ghosts hovered around their tombs.  Tombs of course were used for curse tablets. Pythagoreans particularly connected with tomb necromancy.  Not greatly dissimilar from katabasis (descent into the underworld as used in the Mysteries) as the initiate is confronted with ghosts and terrors. 

Battlefields with their recently dead are also a place for necromancy. Can also perform necromancy in dark woods and marshes (naturally dark places). Oracles of the dead were also located in caves or lakeside.  Curse tablets were often deposited here as well. 

Hades, Persephone, Hermes and Hecate-Trivia were associated with necromancy. The Pythagorean “shamans” were associated with Apollon. However, in art, at least one of these “shamans” has a thyrsus and thus is linked to Dionysus. The PGM because of its Egyptian influence has quite a few deities associated, including sun and moon. 

The basic rite of evocation is not, in and of itself, magical and closely resembles the rites of the dead performed at tombs.  One constructs a pit and a fire: the pit is for blood and wine libations for the spirits of the dead, the fire is for a holocaust offering for the deities of the underworld.  What makes it magical are extra steps and understandings 

  • Purification: several ways for the necromancer to achieve purity, which becomes a rite in itself and sometimes involve sacrifice of animals
  • Timing: usually done at night, although could be performed in naturally dark places like thick woods and caves. Darkness is what was essential. Often done at night off the full moon. 
  • Circumambulation: could be practiced around the pit and fire. 
  • Offerings: the aforementioned pit and fire.  Blood and wine were libations; black sheep were usually the animal offerings. 
  • Utterances, chants, prayers, magic words. 
  • Stones and dolls. Pliny makes mention of a “holding stone” used to hold onto ghosts once summoned.  Probably the closest thing in today's terms would be a crystal?  The use of dolls and poppets were also known.
  • Dress:  dress in black
  • Incubation: it is thought that after all these steps were performed, the necromancer would go asleep (or trance or lucid dreaming?).  Sleep, dreams, death, and night are all connected; the soul is detached from its body. The ghost would speak to the necromancer in their dreams.

Divination: ghosts were asked to divine through lamps and bowls.  Boys were used as mediums for it was thought their innocent souls were better for such things. This gave rise to the idea that boys were sacrificed in such rites. 

The ghosts most likely to be evoked were those that had died before their time, either violently or otherwise. These ghosts would have been confused or angry and wanting to talk to someone.  Also, if they were not buried properly, they would want to reach out for someone to find their bodies and bury them; this was actually one of the chief duties of the necromancer. 

Why consult ghosts?  Ghosts see the past clearly (they were thought to chat with each other so all the ghosts have knowledge of what collectively happened through humanity). A ghost attached to a tomb sees everything that happens around its tomb.  And Pythagoras and Platonists believe a soul detached from its body and earthly concerns has a special wisdom.  For all this, consulting ghosts about the future is not necessarily the main point; they are more likely to know the past and present. 

Keep in mind however the prevailing afterlife view was that once the shades of the departed reached Hades, they drank the waters of Forgetfulness. So how did they remember their past lives?  That goes back to the previous discussion the ghosts most likely to be consulted were those that had died untimely and/or not been properly buried.  Those ghosts would not yet have reached the underworld. 

Finally, the necromancer is someone who inveigles the line between life and death.  The ghosts are partially animated to life by the evocation and particularly by drinking the blood offering; the necromancer himself “dies” in some sense by descending into darkness and especially by practicing incubation, for dreams are a boundary between the waking world and the world of the dead.  

Edit: heavily based on _Greek and Roman Necromancy_ by Daniel Ogden

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u/UrsusofMichigan — 13 days ago