r/Gynarchism

Why should I submit to a woman or worship her if she’s not a god? Like, this is something I genuinely don’t understand.
The only person I would submit to or worship is God, because God is actually God. But when it comes to another human being, I don’t understand why I would worship them or see them as inherently above me just because they’re a woman.
I hear women say it’s because women are the creators or because women are divine and stuff like that, but like, it still doesn’t sit right with me. Like, you’re asking another human being to submit to you or worship you. Do you actually see that person as an equal human being? Or do you see them as someone who’s beneath you?
But I’ve been thinking about it more, and I started wondering if maybe I’m looking at submission the wrong way.
Like, what if for some women, having a man serve them or listen to them is actually one of the ways they feel loved and cared for? Like, imagine the woman comes home and the man takes her shoes off for her, or she says, “Hey honey, can you get me some water?” and he gets it for her.
Maybe she feels loved because he’s listening to her, paying attention to her, and taking care of her.
And maybe for some men it’s kinda the same thing but in a different way. Like, maybe some men need to feel useful, needed, validated, and like they actually have a purpose in the relationship.
And honestly, I think I might be projecting here, because a lot of what I’m saying about why some men might feel loved through serving actually describes me personally.
I’m 20 years old and still learning as I grow, and I’m trying to become a better man because sometimes I don’t even feel like I’m really a man yet.
Like, for example, if I had a girlfriend, I know I’d want to take care of her. If she came home tired, I’d want to help her, listen to her, and do whatever I could to make her feel comfortable.
If she said, “Hey, can you get me some water?” I’d genuinely be happy to get it for her. And if she gave me little orders or asked me to do things for her, I think I’d actually like it because I’d feel like she needs me.
I’d feel like protecting her and serving her is one of my priorities. And when I’m able to do something for her and she appreciates it, I feel like I’m actually useful to someone. I feel seen. I feel needed. It gives me a sense of purpose.
But this is where my mind is kinda battling itself.
On one side, I see submission as inferiority. Like, if I’m obeying a woman and putting her above me, then that must mean I’m beneath her, and that honestly makes me feel inferior.
But then there’s this whole other side of me that’s like, “No, maybe I’m not beneath her. Maybe I’m just choosing to serve someone I love.” And that side actually makes me feel happy, useful, needed, and seen.
So I genuinely believe both sides at the same time, and that’s what’s confusing me.
One part of my mind says, “If you submit to a woman, you’re inferior to her,” while another part says, “You’re not inferior, you’re just choosing to serve someone you love, and being needed is what makes you feel fulfilled.”
I don’t know which side I’m supposed to believe.
Because when I think about submission, I can literally feel both of these ideas fighting in my head. One makes me feel inferior, while the other makes me feel like I finally have a purpose and that somebody actually needs me.
And I don’t really understand human nature like that. I feel like I have to observe people and watch how they act around each other to understand why they do certain things. I might be a little slow when it comes to understanding certain social and emotional stuff, and I think being neurodivergent might have something to do with that.
So I kinda just watch people and try to figure out the patterns behind their behavior.
That’s why I’m trying to understand this. Maybe submission isn’t always about one person being above the other. Maybe for some people, serving, listening, or doing what their partner asks is just how they show love.
And maybe feeling useful, needed, appreciated, and having a purpose is how some people feel loved in return.
But I’m still stuck on the worship part. Why would I worship a woman if she’s not God? I can love her, respect her, protect her, take care of her, listen to her, and even willingly serve her because I love her.
But worship her? I don’t understand that. To me, worship belongs to God.
So I guess I’m asking: why should a man submit to or worship a woman? Can a man willingly submit to his girlfriend or wife in a relationship without believing that she’s superior to him? Or does submission automatically mean that one person is beneath the other?
Because right now, my mind is genuinely stuck between those two ideas.
Like, I’m genuinely asking because I’m trying to understand. I’m not trying to attack anybody. I’m 20, I’m still learning, and I’m trying to understand people and become a better person as I grow.

An argument I often hear brought up, usually within the the conversation of Women's sports, is how Women could never compete with men in competitions requiring physical prowess. A common example you hear among conservatives/patriarchy supporters is how the US Women's soccer team lost an informal match against a team of 15-year old boys in 2017. That is true, that did happen.

The issue is conservatives use examples like that to extrapolate some vague idea that "physical strength means men are better fit to lead". This just isn't true. Humans don't live in a society where physical strength matters much anymore. We aren't living out in the unforgiving wilderness, needing to hunt and defend ourselves from large hungry beasts. Most of us live in homes with electricity, water, heating, air conditioning, and food. (And those who don't have those amenities would have them aplenty in a Gynarchic system.)

But we now live in a society better suited for the guidance of Woman's emotional intelligence and intuition rather than the cavemen of old. Women are by far better fit to rule. The aggressive and competitive nature of man is not a good fit in our civilized society, and it has led to issues such as economic and environmental ruin, widespread poverty, and violence.

Physical strength means nothing. An elephant could easily stamp any human into a pile of viscera, yet elephants are by and large subordinate to the will of humans (and the only elephants that defied the rule of man, the woolly mammoths and mastodons, were hunted to extinction).

Beyond that, those of you who are of a Gynocentric spirituality will agree that Women also have a Divine right to rule. They are cosmically ordained to decide the course of human civilization.

Even if every Women upon this Earth were only 6 inches tall, they still would have that Divine right to rule and to be obeyed. Physical strength does not entitle you to rule, it is only the traits that are exclusive to Women that do.

Hi everyone,

I have a question for all of you. I'm aware that many Gynarchists have a rule preventing them from voting for any male candidate running for public office.

Suppose a male politician intended to establish a Gynarchy by force. Suppose he had raised enough power and influence to actually make it happen. Would any of you support him? Would he be seen as a hero in the eyes of Women?

Would especially love to hear a Woman's perspective.

I saw a post on a different sub that misandry should be embraced in a Gynarchy, that men can never make enough reparations to undo the damage patriarchy has caused, but that men should nevertheless dedicate their lives trying to make up for it. Women should still treat men with disdain or indifference, but men should still strive to make amends anyway.

How is this productive? How is basing the foundation of an entire ideology on hatred going to accomplish anything? All this type of rhetoric does is harm our cause and turn people, Women and men, away from supporting Gynarchic policies.

Hate of any kind has no place in a Gynarchy. An ideology shouldn't be built upon on hatred towards any group. That goes without saying, but many people want to turn it into something misandrist, or sometimes even misogynistic by perverting Gynarchism into merely a kink. Obviously the person who suggested this couldn't separate their personal grudge against men from what is good for everyone.

While I understand that men are the primary beneficiaries of the patriarchal system, that doesn't mean every man is directly liable for the harm the system causes. The patriarchy also hurts men in various and well-documented ways. Women and men should work together to dismantle patriarchy for everyone's benefit.

Gynarchy should be built on mutual respect. Yes, Women will rule society and men will be expected to assist & support Them, but there needs to be mutual respect towards one another's position. If the captain of ship belittles the crewmates and treats them like garbage, what's going to happen? Mutiny will invariably happen.

Resentment will only beget resentment. No system can function like that. We need to work together, get everyone onboard with this idea, and embrace positivity rather than negativity.