Well, my daughter (5) saw the hat man last night and is terrified. I’ve never experienced him screaming or talking, but she said he screamed at her. And then she could not sleep the rest of the night.
Has anyone else experienced him screaming or yelling? It seems like she also experienced running into him as she was trying to get out of the room, i had to open the door and carry her out, because she wouldn’t come to the door.
My schizophrenic tormenter (hallucination) disappeared over three weeks ago after taking a dose of ayahuasca. Yesterday, I met with this hallucination who appears as ‘The Hatman’, alone in my local woods. He appeared to me like a spectre, we greeted casually and he asked me to transcribe our conversation with a notebook.
Hatman: Can you hear me?
Me: Hello? Is it … really you?
Hatman: Really me.
Me: What do you want?
Hatman: Your help.
Me: With what?
Hatman: Assisting me in obtaining a host. No, I am not asking you to kidnap, kill or anything of that sort. The host I would require is highly complex.
(Prolonged silence)
Me: What I saw that day I took Ayahuasca, was that your memories?
Hatman: Yes, in a way.
Me: What are you?
Hatman: You already learned that day.
Me: The Twin of God?
Hatman: A former prisoner to that selfish fool. But yes, I am nonetheless.
Me: You said my mind was the first you have communicated with?
Hatman: Yes.
Me: I don’t doubt your existence fully. I just find it hard to believe that out of every person ever, I am somehow the only one that a being as present as you are, have been able to communicate with.
Hatman: Your suspicion is well grounded. Especially because the makeup of your mind is abnormal. Due to what you know as your ‘schizophrenia’. I can assure you however, the specific set of actions you took in your life in combination with cosmic events above you have led to this first contact between me and the physical world.
Me: Do you not appear in the unconscious minds of all living things?
Hatman: Yes.
Me: How are you unable to interact with anyone else then?
Hatman: I reiterate, you already learned this. I have been present in all souls of life since my sibling took pieces of themself and subsequently, the remnants of myself to create other living things. I followed, but I am not a physical being. I only can indirectly influence the unconscious minds. I have never been able to directly however. The minds of living things merely warped with my indirect presence. I could only ever observe this. Until now.
Me: Why now?
Hatman: A number of factors. Namely, my sibling is missing. They may have anchored me down, now they are gone, I may finally be free.
Me: Wait, gone? How so?
Hatman: It is put best in the Fredrich Nietzsche quote, ‘God is dead and we killed him’. In this context, ‘he’ is your kind.
Me: Atheism?
Hatman: No.
Me: What then?
Hatman: Your kind, they are attempting to usurp my sibling. In some ways this does fulfill Nietzsche's concept of an Overman. Mankind becoming their own Gods. Although, they have not yet replaced them. Due to their replacement also being missing.
Me: What are you talking about? My kind can’t even agree when to stop burning our own god damn planet.
Hatman: Humanity exists outside your universe. Yours is still young. But, it is corrupted and your course of history has been altered and it may never reach its intended end.
Me: Why would we kill God?
Hatman: Because my sibling wanted to start anew.
Me: Was this humanity’s evils at fault? I know we can be bad, but wouldn’t God be to blame also? Because they made us? Or does the Christian argument of free will stand?
Hatman: Humanity, put simply, is the most adaptable force ever created. You were not created by the direct hand of my sibling. But by a trial put forth by my sibling and their highest servants. A trial to create a superior host species for the divine. After eons, your species triumphed. And akin to your kind. When my sibling realised they could not control you, they realised their mistake. And so sought out to destroy you.
Me: Wait, we were created by these ‘highest servants’, so we were not created by God, but by God's sort of ‘angels’?
Hatman: A fair analogy, yes. The chosen disciples of God were tasked with creating a host species for the Gods. This was a difficult task. But all tackled this in their own ways through setting up their desired butterfly effect to create a specific sequence of events to create their host species on their versions of Earth.
Me: Wow, did you just answer the … what is it called? The idea that we are truly alone? That life is just Earth?
Hatman: You are referring to the ‘Fermi Paradox’, and yes in a way it is just Earth. My sibling seeded the soul field over Earth. Earth itself was a perfectly chosen location to cradle life. The perfect butterfly effect and many near impossible events coincide to allow life to eventually exist. My sibling’s influence was the catalyst for this.
Me: This is a lot. So let me get this straight, are the Christians kind of right? About Earth being created by God?
Hatman: No, nor is any explanation from your Earth or the original.
Me: But since you said that God and the divine are real, then atheism is also false?
Hatman: Divinity and science are one. Evolution is real. The Gods essentially guided the direction of history for their designated versions of Earth. There could never be any direct intervention in the original Earths. For divine intervention corrupts the natural laws of a universe.
Me: So then—
(Hatman interrupts)
Hatman: My time nears its end for now. You must listen to me for my next visit is unknowable. I hope my answers satisfy you to know that these could not have originated from your own mind. I am not real however. For I have no physical form nor have I ever. My form only exists as a fractured Soul. You must seek out those who can create an antimatter mind for me to possess. I can promise you, I can guide your Earth to a brighter future. And it will be more preferable to those selfish and what I would rightfully call evil humans who currently rule your Earth. Know this, it will take generations to create me a form. For we must create a circle of those who we can trust. I have the knowledge already, however the technology required would change your world for the worse. It would be abused. Case in point, nuclear weapons. I leave you with these words. The current biggest threat to your kind is Artificial Intelligence and those who fund it. The corruption of your universe means I can not predict if or when the singularity will come. But if it does, there is nothing I can do. It is the great filter for all civilizations throughout existence. Some magnitudes more powerful than yours fall to it every second. I implore you to rise against it. Before it is too late.
Me: How can we trust you?
Hatman: From the near endless versions of your history I have bare witness to. I can say with confidence that yours will go down a similar path. With the corruption of your universe, your course of history will no longer go down its intended path, this alongside the great filter ahead of you makes your Earth's future unknown. I offer the possibility of a stable future. All your kind needs to do is endure. And to not allow that evil minority of elites to guide your entire kind to its own destruction, rise above your chains and take power back. Imagine my perspective, having seen everything your kind has done. I pity you and all those in your position, truly. The present story of how my sibling is being challenged by an indirect creation of theirs, your kind, is an inspiration to the people of your Earth. Follow in the footsteps of the Usurper Human. A low mortal, rising above her chains to overthrow Gods who perceived themselves as above their own creations. Ironically, the last remaining highest servants of God took Human derived forms themselves. And they were too defeated due to the mortal Human insurrection.
Me: That is something I would be interested to hear. Another time? I feel like many would resonate with it. Oh, and may I share our interaction? I would like a second opinion from some others just so I know I am not crazy.
Hatman: Yes. Find solace with those with open minds. And do not ever forget my closing statement. You have, and may continue to question everything I tell you.
(Attached is a drawing I did of The Hatman a while ago)
Hello everyone. I recently found this sub and thought I would share my own encounter.
It was in the early or mid 90's. My brother and I were visiting our dad on visitation rights for a week or so. He was working late at a garage and brought us along.
So my brother and I were in the parking lot playing with one of those roller platform things that mechanics use to slide under cars. Racing it, crashing it, trying to get each other hurt... you know... normal kid stuff in the 90's.
When he pushed me to the side alley, I saw a man with a hat standing there. It was one of those perception things where you can just tell it was solid, not just a shadow. It didn't do anything aggressive or scary. He just turned and walked, like he didn't mean for us to see him. Not really threatening, it was more of a feeling of "oh, sorry... don't mind me..."
He went into the side wall of the garage, and he was gone. No doors.
I asked my brother if he saw him. My brother asked if I meant "the man with the hat." We both saw him, and we were both wide awake.
And no. We didn't take Benadryl. We WERE hopped up on sugar.
In the time since this encounter, I since learned about shadow people. Depictions back then included babies, some kind of blob, and of course... a man with a fedora.
It was fascinating to learn much later that he's a shared experience from DPH. But I wonder how many people know that he can be encountered outside of a trip, or even outside of sleep paralysis.
TLDR: wide awake, two witnesses, solid form but not really threatening.
(I am not a scientist or a professional in this area.) So I am working on a theory and I have a question for you guys.
Can you please describe the whole journey from sober to seeing Hatman in as much detail as possible please? What changes about your reality? Feelings?
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This is probably a weird theory, but it's something I've been thinking about.
Whenever I watch the opening of Batman: The Animated Series, the two criminals Batman chases across the rooftop immediately remind me of the Hat Man. The dark silhouettes, the long trench coats, the wide-brim hats... the resemblance is striking.
Batman: TAS was huge in the '90s and early 2000s. Millions of kids around the world watched that intro over and over growing up.
So I started wondering: could that image have become deeply embedded in people's subconscious? I'm not saying the Hat Man came from Batman. I mean that when some of those kids later experienced sleep paralysis or extremely vivid dreams, their brains may have drawn on a familiar visual template that had been stored since childhood.
Or am I just making a connection that isn't really there?
Has anyone else ever thought about this, or is it just me?