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watched the full match again and a few thoughts once the emotion wears off.

the no-ball over from Bishnoi is obviously the headline, two back-foot no-balls in a high-leverage over basically gifted England extra deliveries and free hits at the exact moment the game was tilting our way. That's not bad luck, that's a discipline issue at the international level and it's not the first time we've seen it from him.

but zooming out, I think the bigger pattern is that our death overs bowling unit still doesn't have a settled, trusted hierarchy. we rotate between wrist spin and pace at the death depending on matchups, and when the primary option has an off night like this, there isn't a clear second option that inspires confidence. compare that to how England used Sam Curran early to negate our left-handers, that's a team executing a clear plan. We're still figuring ours out over.

shreyas' comments after the game were fairly candid, he pointed to the 15th over as the turning point and didn't shy away from naming the no-ball as the specific error. Credit to him for not deflecting.

bethell chasing us down again (after the semi-final knock earlier this year too) is now a genuine pattern worth tracking. He seems to relish batting against this specific attack.

questions for the sub:

• does Bishnoi keep his death overs role for Nottingham, or does the team management look at alternatives?
• is this a personnel problem or a tactical/planning problem?
• are we reading too much into one over, or is this symptomatic of something ongoing?

series is level to be won back, curious what people who've watched more of the domestic bowlers coming through think about better death-overs options in the pipeline.

I've been kind of addicted to the WC at the moment and man did I forget how much the viewer experience differs, if we compare t20s that last for 3-4 hours to an average football match;

we get ads every single over, every single wicket, which is the most stupid time for an ad since they'll still keep the ads on the next over again and it'll be like a little bit of cricket in your bowl of ads,

and then we come to the breaks, some of the wc broadcasters in other countries do not even show ads in hydration breaks (2 of them per half, 3 minutes) and even the halftime is mostly discussion on the actual game going on,

while if we come to cricket, shit like the ceat strategic timeout is made exactly for an ad break, since even if a team doesn't take one, its automatically imposed in its last available over.

And then, worse of all, physical ads on the cricket grounds in the field of play, alright sure, but now they've started to add digitally more of them, as seen in the Sony LIV coverages, and thats absolute disregard for the game, we have ads bigger than our country's names on bilateral jerseys, its like how much money could you actually need, they take this audience for cricket for granted and do not respect the game or the audience at all.

Now I know nothing will ever change about this but I just had to say it, I do not know the economics behind it, but like imagine Messi just scored a goal and they started ads because players would be celebrating for atleast a minute, that's what happens per wicket in cricket.

This has discouraged me from watching int cricket entirely, and I do not know why people are so okay with it, name me any other sport with more ads than cricket.

If you look back at the world cup win in February the problems were plenty visible.But Samson's back to back extraordinary knocks and Bumrah spell against England saved us. Newzealand chokes every final they reach so not a surprise they choked again

Now similar failings are badly exposed again with both bat and ball.

Our bowling outside of Bumrah is mediocre at best. Varun is well past his best and our wrist spinners are really poor whether it's Kuldeep or Bishnoi.

Our middle order is a mess. Tilak is only good if you give him the last 2-3 overs against pace.

Despite Gambhir winning everything in limited overs cricket I still don't belive in him fully (not sure why).

Expecting India to win either 2027 world cup in South Africa or the T20 world cup in australia is a fool's errand at this stage .

I hope I am proven wrong but not that confident about it.