I swapped out dimmers and dumb switches for Inovelli switches and now I'm struggling to get all the wires in the box. i try to bend the wires in, but it's hard as it's a huge mess of wires. Any tips or advice?
John
More detailed post from the community page... Just wanted to make sure people had more photos of the various brands to coordinate with Inovellis. For context this is a new home build where most of the switches are Inovellis (white series).
Went a little overboard trying to find wall plates and dumb switches that would coordinate with Inovellis so figured I’d share what I found given some of the recommendations didn’t include pictures.
Didn’t want to go with a glossy wall plate given the amount of fingerprints they accumulate. In the end went with the Bestten wall plates in USWP6 (snow white; not the USWP4 white/off-white) in a matte finish.
For dumb switches, the Lutron Claro on/off switches in glossy white seemed to match the aesthetic the most despite having a narrower paddle (even though Inovelli is color matched to Lutron, they still seemed to be a cooler white than anything else I compared them to). Ended up doing Leviton outlets but Eaton also seemed to work with Bestten wall plates and Inovellis nearby.
Brands I sampled:
Inovelli - obvi; very cool white / grey color compared to all other brands, including Lutron.
Legrand - hate how obvious the branding is. All their stuff is matte, so it doesn't match. The wall plates have a weird curve on side profile and look cheap.
Leviton - Using for my outlets. Wall plates were glossy (would likely have used them if I didn't go with matte wall plates). Annoyingly some of their outlets have extruded branding whereas other have "engraved" branding... electrician put a mix in our new build house. Tickles the OCD organ to no end but no one will notice unless the extruded letters collect grime.
SquareD - liked all their stuff except the logo sticking up on the top right and the fact that their matte white didn't totally match (it is a very bright white); I did like the size and shape of the 1 gang plates, but when also mixing with outlets and the multi-gang plate logo thing, I didn't end up using (except in one area with black outlets). Their outlet/wall plate combo look the best, but impossible to match with anything else.
Eaton - switches a bit warmer and glossier; was close 2nd for my outlets.
Lutron - used as dumb switch; Claro switch closest match to inovelli but still a touch less cool.
Bestten - wall plate of choice; mostly purchased in bulk on Amazon; make sure to get USPW6 Snow White version, others seem to be off-white from reviews
Lider - decent matte white, but wall plates are mid-size so for general use look a bit comically large. They do have an outlet where you can take off the faceplate, so I will be using that for an area where I want to spray paint the outlets to a specific Benjamin Moore color).
Hopefully Inovelli will eventually get a matte white version in the future (and maybe a dumb switch).
Read this yesterday and finally understand how electrical and no neutral switches work: https://homesmart.sg/guides/neutral-vs-no-neutral-smart-switches/
And I realize that I am going to need to get a bypass if I am to get my mmwave switches to work without a neutral.
I have read that one will work with the dimmer switch, but keep reading “multiple” with the mmWave with some people voicing frustration that two didn’t work.
I need to place an order with Aartech in Canada for these and want to get it right the first time. I don‘t know how much wattage the Inovelli bypasses “absorb” and how much power the Inovelli mmwave will have running through it at all times, so it’s hard to calculate.
How many bypasses did it take for it to work?
TLDR - interested in the white series, at $5k in switch cost is it worth the investment?
I bought my home during Covid and the previous owners installed Legrand Adorne RF WiFi switches throughout the house.
Legrand recently announced that their WiFi switches are no longer going to be supported after February 2027. Legrand has a zigbee line, but those are 2x the cost of the Innovelli white line. But I’d save on having to buy new face plates for every box in the house.
If I bought Innovelli I’d need 64 2-1 switches, 6 fan switches, and 25 Aux switches.
I'm looking at putting in 13 White on/off switches and dimmers and connecting them to a SmartThings Hub (Matter over Thread) and was hoping to get some feedback if I might run into any potential issues.
All setups have a Neutral and Line in the box.
1.Most of my setups will be a single on/off switch directly controlling an LED light bulb.
I need 100% uptime, I can't rely on and sort of hub or automation that if communication is lost the lights don't work.
Has anyone had any problems at all with 100% direct control? (which would mostly be mechanical failures I think)
2.I'll have two 3 way setups that would use a white on/off and an Aux switch WITH a traveler.
Again I need 100% uptime on this, no automation or hub.
Has anyone had any problems at all with 3 way 100% direct control? (issue between a hardwired aux and on/off switch)
3.One location will been an on/off in Smart Mode always powering a Hue Light.
It won't actually be controlling the Hue light through SmartThings, I have the Hue tap dial for that. I'm only powering the lights through the on/off switch so I can air gap the lights if needed rather than flipping a breaker.
Has anyone had any issues with the white on/off switch holding it's relay on indefinitely?
I can hardwire the hue lights and not use the relay at all if there's any risk of failure for the relay being continually energized.
4.I have one 4 way location that I plan to use 3 white dimmer to control 2 hue bulbs.
The dimmers will control the a hardwired Hue lights through SmartThings (hue bulb not going through the dimmers direct hardwired). I have a Hue hub so it will be local with SmartThings.
Has anyone had any issues with 3 dimmers controlling 2 hue bulbs through SmartThings with local automation?
I understand that both SmartThings and Hue hubs need to be up for it to work. But is there issues when everything is up and things just don't work and need resetting?
5.For all the switches I plan to use the LED bars through SmartThings to indicate when doors are unlocked or open. Some will be a single SmartThings door contact, others will look at multiple ones (if any 3 are open it's red to indicate something is open). Then when they are all close they will either turn off or go green, something like that.
Has any one had any issues with controlling the led bars on the on/off switch or dimmer through SmartThings to indicate if a door is open or unlocked?
Is it fairly quick response? Like within 1 second?
I'm doing a door lock now with the light on a single older on/off Red switch (with the tiny led on it) and it works about 95% of the time, but would be taking it up a notch with all all my locks and door and window sensor.
Just trying to get an idea of what issues I may encounter.
Thanks
Hi all,
I can't seem to find an answer to this question, so I am assuming that it is not an issue, but I have 2 Blue presence sensing switches and 7 Blue dimmer switches, and would like to add more presence sensing switches. My Zigbee network is quite stable at the moment with 50 devices (only 1 device is not wired or plugged-in).
I also have 7 other Blue dimmer switches in my house.
My question is: If I add 4 more presence-sensing switches, will it have a material negative impact on my Zigbee network?
My network runs on Zigbee2MQTT on channel 25, using an SLZB-06 coordinator.
