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Normally vocals are repugnant in the fusion genre, but George Duke is among the rare exceptions !

Well, the reception was great here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/JazzFusion/s/8IOV6YcLeJ

So I’ll be expanding. Thanks for the support!

I wanted to map out a highly specific, regional loop from the mid-to-late 1980s jazz history that is completely overlooked in standard textbook historiography. If you look closely at the timelines of John Scofield and Miles Davis, there is an airtight case to be made that an underground alliance between the Chicago Brand and the Baltimore Brand single-handedly hijacked electric jazz, saved it from academic sterility, and ultimately altered the DNA of modern pop-rock.

This wasn’t a product of the coastal industry hub, but was rather a full-blown regional alternative to NY/LA's polished studio system. Here is the breakdown of the loop:

PART 1: The Two Parallel Foundries (1970s)

In the 1970s, two distinct regional scenes were developing with significant independence from the dominant New York and Los Angeles music industries:

The Chicago Sophistication:

Reflective of Chicago’s own Earth, Wind & Fire’s polished production values, this crew emphasized hyper-slick, structured urban R&B and pristine synth programming. It was anchored by drummer Vince Wilburn Jr. and keyboardist Robert Irving III. The city also produced an unusually strong line of bassists who would later become central to Miles Davis’s electric bands. Key figures included Darryl Jones, Felton Crews (who toured with Minnie Riperton while still in high school), Angus Thomas, and Richard Patterson.

Crews brought a deep, finger-style R&B fatness, while Thomas delivered driving, razor-sharp electric lines together helping define Chicago’s signature urban groove. Patterson was the ultimate evolutionary step as a Chicago native who flawlessly executed that heavy, syncopated mid-west grease, and anchoring Miles's final rhythm section as it collided with early hip-hop and new jack swing.

The Baltimore Grease:

Born out of long club residencies and the rising D.C. Go-Go scene, this faction prioritized raw street power and endurance. Led by Go-Go rhythmic architects like Ricky “Sugarfoot” Wellman (of Chuck Brown & The Soul Searchers), the local network also included drummer Larry Bright, Paul Soroka on the electronic Lyricon wind controller, and young bassists such as Gary Grainger and Vince Loving.

🔥 PART 1 TL;DR:

Chicago built a polished, highly structured synth-R&B foundation with a deep bench of groove-oriented bassists (including Darryl Jones, Felton Crews, and Angus Thomas), while Baltimore developed a raw, high-endurance, aggressively syncopated street groove rooted in Go-Go. Both scenes operated with significant independence from the coastal industry centers.

Part 2:
https://www.reddit.com/r/JazzFusion/s/KC7oHkKLXk

Hey fusioneers!

I wanted to nerd out for a minute about a specific mid-80s musical pivot point that completely changed the trajectory of jazz-fusion drumming. Let's talk about how Dennis Chambers went from a regional funk powerhouse to an international jazz icon, all thanks to one guy:

bassist Gary Grainger!

We can call this The Grainger Fusion Conduit Premise.

1. The Regional Incubator (The Baltimore Foundation)

Before 1986, the world knew Dennis Chambers primarily as the absolute powerhouse driving George Clinton’s Parliament-Funkadelic (1978–1985). He was a legend in the funk community, but largely siloed from the hardcore, improvisation-heavy jazz-fusion world. He did a brief stint with the smooth/contemporary jazz group Special EFX, but he hadn't yet broken into the elite, guitarist-led fusion circles.

Enter Gary Grainger. Both Grainger and Chambers anchored the incredibly tight-knit Baltimore/D.C. musical circuit. Grainger knew exactly what Chambers was capable of.

2. The Scofield Catalyst (The Conduit in Action)

In early 1986, guitarist John Scofield was fresh out of Miles Davis’s band and assembling a new touring lineup. He wanted an aggressive, highly syncopated electric funk-jazz sound. He hired Grainger on bass.
Knowing exactly what Scofield was hunting for, Grainger intentionally dragged Scofield out to a Special EFX gig to watch Chambers play. Scofield was completely blown away by Chambers' ability to drop blazing, mathematically insane fills without ever losing a ruthless funk pocket. He hired him on the spot.

3. The Global Expansion (The Ripple Effect)

In September 1986, this newly formed lineup went into the studio and recorded the seminal album Blue Matter. Driven by the unified Grainger/Chambers rhythm section, the record became an instant classic. It provided the ultimate blueprint for blending uncut P-Funk groove with complex modal jazz improvisation.

Once Grainger pulled Chambers through that initial gateway, the floodgates opened. Because his jazz credentials were now validated by Scofield, Chambers instantly became the most in-demand session master in the genre, immediately snatched up by:

David Sanborn (1987)

Mike Stern & Bob Berg (1989)

The Brecker Brothers (1990s)

John McLaughlin’s The Heart of Things (1990s)

Without Gary Grainger acting as the definitive pipeline, the DNA of 90s electric jazz-rock might look completely different. Genius always needs a bridge, and Grainger was the architect.

TL;DR:
In 1986, bassist Gary Grainger used his Baltimore connections to introduce legendary P-Funk drummer Dennis Chambers to guitarist John Scofield. This birthed the iconic album Blue Matter, instantly launching Chambers from the funk world into the highest echelons of international jazz-fusion.

ADDENDUM:
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What are some must-listen recordings that are both prog rock & jazz fusion, from any time period?

Since I started getting into Young Gun Silver Fox I have been crate digging and YouTube searching for that 70s sound that I kind of missed out on when I went through it as a preteen. YGSF aren’t fusion but kind of led me into sampling some fusion artists. I appreciate the music, but I tend to enjoy the funkier side of it. My question to you guys is when it gets too funky. does it stop becoming fusion? For example, a lot of George Duke stuff gets super funky and Herbie Hancock’s “Getting to the good part” is one I love and I wonder if the fusion guys turn their nose up to a song like this?

I was watching a show on Stingray Djazz channel on Pluto TV at 5am Central Standard Time this morning (June 29, 2026) and I am trying to find out who it was.

So, here it goes. I think it was filmed in. the Netherlands. Guitar - older white guy dressed all in white. Bass - younger white guy with a blond Mohawk playing À pretty distinctive double neck bass. Sax - middle age white guy wearing what looked like a long grey trench coat. It was definitely 80s styled (big shoulder pads, sleeves rolled up). Drums - middle aged white guy with big curly mop of dark hair. Wearing a bright red shirt and black short shorts. Keyboards - couldn’t really see him very well. White guy with light brown hair.

I hope y’all can help me with an ID for these guys because the set was great and I’d love see/ hear it again.

Thanks!