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Jan to English Translation: From the Bankruptcy Hearing

Ive been a lurker here, but listening to every bit of coverage since the very beginning. Like the rest of you I gloried in the latest Owens Bankruptcy. For some not so deeply versed in the lore, I prepared this bit of fun while relaxing today. I went through the hearing a few times - these are in no particular order.

Jan: “I’m sure you were notified by the online smear campaign that has gone against us…”
Translation: “A group of people has spent three years keeping receipts, reading public records, attending hearings, and inconveniently remembering what we said last time.”

Judge: “I really have no idea what you’re talking about.”
Translation: “Ma’am, I am a federal bankruptcy judge. I do not subscribe to the Owens Family Extended Universe newsletter.”

Judge: “It would be unethical for this judge or any judge to go out and do background research on people.”
Translation: “Unlike you, ma’am, I understand how evidence gets into a courtroom.”

Jan: “I know that the smear campaign people have said online that they have sent information to your office.”
Translation: “People on the internet said they sent you evidence, therefore I would now like to introduce Reddit as an explanation for why my bankruptcy schedules are wrong.”

Jan: “The GoFundMe… was all virtually exhausted by… I would venture to say by May of 2025.”
Translation: “The money is gone. Where did it go? Please enjoy this exciting opportunity to discover that for yourselves.”

Judge: “I’m really asking for a full accounting of the GoFundMe account… what did you get, when did you get it, what did you do with it, where are your receipts?”
Translation: “Cool story. Show Queen Jennifer the fucking receipts.”

Jan: “But again, that was all prior to the Chapter 13…”
Translation: “I would like to invoke the ancient legal doctrine of That Was Ages Ago, Your Honour.”

Judge: “Some transfers can be recovered despite the passage of time.”
Translation: “Motion to invoke That Was Ages Ago denied.”

Jan: “We were unable to [provide the documents]. I had presumed that we would be able to get counsel.”
Translation: “We filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy without a lawyer, cannot find a lawyer willing to represent us, and would now like our inability to find a lawyer to excuse us from complying with Chapter 11 bankruptcy requirements.”

Jan: “I had presumed that we would be able to get counsel.”
Translation: “We assumed at least one bankruptcy attorney would look at our prior dismissal, missing documents, unpaid mortgage, GoFundMe questions, and general aura of chaos, then say, ‘Yes, I would like my name attached to this.’ Shockingly, the legal community chose life.”

Jan: “It was never my intention to file pro se. Our intent was to be able to get counsel, and we have been unable to obtain counsel.”
Translation: “We had a lawyer in Chapter 13 until that case face-planted because we didn’t do the assigned homework. Then we reportedly contacted 26 lawyers for Chapter 11, and somehow every legal professional who looked at this said, ‘Hard pass.’ One was allegedly willing to consider it, but only if an adult with money guaranteed payment. Rude, honestly, when lawyers insist on being paid and not boarding the Titanic after it has already hit the iceberg.”

Queen M: “You know your financial circumstances best…”
Translation: “Jan. They’re your bank statements.”

Queen M: “It’s not appropriate to file bankruptcy and park in bankruptcy and obtain the protections of bankruptcy and yet not fulfill the obligations.”
Translation: “You cannot call ‘BASE!’ and expect the foreclosure monster to stop chasing you forever.”

Queen M: “From where the court sits, you’re currently in contempt, ma’am.”
Translation: “Ma’am, this is not a vibes-based jurisdiction.”

Jan: “Our hope was to retain outside legal counsel to resolve the debts.”
Translation: “We would like a lawyer to find a magic door marked ‘no consequences.’”

Jan: “How does the August 6 hearing impact the July 28 foreclosure?”
Translation: “Can bankruptcy court please keep the stay alive even though we haven’t done the bankruptcy homework?”

Jan: “We have very, very serious issues the mortgage holder needs to address.”
Translation: “They keep insisting we deal with the roughly year’s worth of missed payments, which is frankly inconvenient.”

Jan: “We’ve been trying very, very hard for a long time to get this resolved.”
Translation: “We’ve sent letters, made calls, and somehow the bank still wants the money.”

Jan: “There seem to be a lot of folks at play here.”
Translation: “The mortgage company has departments, and none of them have recognised us as the main characters.”

Jan: “We get told one thing on the phone, and the next day we get a letter saying something else.”
Translation: “Customer service gave us hope. The actual legal/servicing department gave us reality.”

Jan: “We have uncovered things that we feel are violations.”
Translation: “We believe paperwork technicalities should stop the foreclosure, preferably indefinitely.”

And then, of course, the finale:
Queen M: “From where the court sits, you’re currently in contempt, ma’am.”
Translation: “Congratulations. After filing Chapter 13, not doing your homework, getting it dismissed, filing Chapter 11, not doing your homework again, and asking to leave while keeping the benefits until the foreclosure date, you have unlocked a new achievement: Federal Judge Is Officially Done With Your Shit.”

Bonus:

Queen Jennifer: “The debtors have a daughter, Laura Owens, who had previously filed a Chapter 7 case… I spoke at length with the attorney for the Chapter 7 trustee in that case.”
Translation: “You may remember me from such previous Owens family bankruptcies as The One Where I Cross-Examined Your Daughter Until She Voluntarily Dismissed Her Case With Prejudice Rather Than Come Back for the Sequel.
Anyway, I made some calls.”

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u/No-Blackberry-338 — 1 day ago

LAW & CRIME - Crimefix Update: Shocking Fake Pregnancy Plot Gets Even Crazier

Angenette Levy released a new episode today - with plea bargain info.

She never fails to show the bodycam 💙🏆👑

I did pick up something new that Clayton said, I’ve missed before. Maybe you can all guess what that was.

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u/Honest_Camel3035 — 2 days ago

Justice for Greg Gillespie and Clayton Echard and consequences for Laura Owens

Laura Owens enjoys the presumption of innocence under our legal system until she is found guilty in court of law, it is possible she is found not guilty, but I think this is profoundly unlikely.

When she is found guilty, I believe that she should be incarcerated for some period. Honestly, I feel that 2 years in prison would be a just sentence but it is more likely she will get some limited jail time with probation, hopefully up to 10 years plus of probation.

I feel an additional appropriate punishment for Laura is the mandatory restitution for crime victims in Arizona upon criminal conviction. Greg and Clayton are entitled to the cost of her crimes against them including loss wages, lost property, medical expenses, court fees, and attorney fees incurred defending the fraudulent court cases she brought in both cases (under State v. Spears).

Greg can seek restitution for his legal cost for defending himself from her fraudulent lawsuit, a cost likely upwards of $150,000 for both of his lawyers on his case in addition to the cost of any loss of work, loss property, court fees, or anything out of pocket related to her criminal acts. It looks like a fraudulent schemes and artifices convection is needed in his case for Greg's to recover attorney fees, possibly a convection under the Theft by Extortion charge may also constitutes fraud convection also.

Clayton has a civil judgment already, but it may not cover costs from the IAH and DVRO cases, I hope Clayton submits for all his lost work income and court costs, paternity testing, hCG test related to her fraudulent activities. I also hope that the sentence will include her making restitution payments for her current civil judgment she already has incurred from Clayton during this criminal case. A fraud convection is needed for Clayton case also for recovery of additional attorney fees.

I hope the judge sets as a condition of probation or prole that she maintains a job making restitution payments to victims to stay out of jail.

Greg and Clayton are hopefully working with the prosecutor's office victim services program to submit detailed, documented claims of their economic losses, including any applicable attorney fees under State v. Spears.

Clayton and Greg will be making victim impact statements during LO sentencing explaining the damage LO criminal actions did to their family and to themselves. They will likely request the judge impose prison time and impose restitution to cover their economic losses.

In the end of all this LO will have up to 5 to 14 felony convictions, and 3 criminal and civil judgements against her, likely adding up to $350,000 or more, and a lifetime no contact order for her victims. She will be under probation for years and years hopefully making her make payments required for restitution to stay out of jail during probation or parole, in the end, this is what I believe the consequences for two cases of paternity fraud will look like for Laura Owens.  

Note, I am not a lawyer, just what I understand will likely happen, more accurately what I hope happens in this case.

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u/Standard-Squash96 — 4 days ago

Ronn & Jan Owens Bankruptcy Case: Expedited Hearing on Emergency Motion to Extend Automatic Stay 7.1.26

Ronn & Jan Owens Bankruptcy Case Expedited Hearing on Emergency Motion to Extend Automatic Stay continuance was held at 2:00pm mst today, July 1, 2026.

Ronn, Jan, and Department of Justice Attorney Jennifer Giaimo were present.

Judge said Jan’s filings were procedurally incorrect, so cannot dismiss their chapter 11 bankruptcy.

The judge also mentioned non-disclosed assets that creditors could liquidate, ponies, and the GoFundMe.

The judge believes Ron and Jan filed bankruptcy in bad faith, lack of transparency, and there is fraud upon the court that needs to be explored, not dismissed, so could convert to chapter 7 to pursue fraudulent filings.

Jan was ordered to provide Giaimo with receipts of the GoFundMe to be investigated, as well as all the previously requested documents that Jan has yet to provide. They are currently in contempt of court. All required information is due no later than July 10, 2026.

Ronn & Jan’s request to extend automatic stay was denied, their home will be auctioned as scheduled on July 28, 2026.

The next hearing is scheduled for August 6, 2026 at 2:30pm mst.

More details are available on the Victims of Laura Owens Instagram | VOLO IG LINK

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u/cnm1424 — 4 days ago

Newbie Question/Love Trapped

I listened to Love Trapped. Mind blowing. What I can't figure out is how Laura faked a belly from multiple camera angles on a video with a BARE belly???

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u/peesys — 4 days ago

elizabeth naylor

>from the bay area radio website: "Black’s radio career began in [high school]... She adopted her air name at that time because her given name sounded too much like that of actress Elizabeth Taylor."

she's not wrong about that one lmao. every time i see her legal name i read its cadence like the taylor swift song ("eLIZAbeth TAYLor! do ya think it's forever?")

wonder what inspired her to choose jan black of all names

u/bachintosh420 — 5 days ago

Ronn & Jan Owens Bankruptcy: Meeting of Creditors 6.30.26

Thank you ClaytonsJustice on X for sharing your notes of Ronn & Jan’s Bankruptcy Meeting of Creditors | X POST LINK

u/cnm1424 — 6 days ago

State of Arizona vs Laura Owens: Criminal Complex Case Management Conference 6.29.26

Laura Owens’ Criminal Complex Case Management Conference is being held today at 8:45am mst.

ICYMI
Laura’s Settlement Conference was held on Friday June 26, 2026 | LINK

UPDATES
Are being shared on Victims of Laura Owens Instagram VOLO IG LINK

🚨NEW INFORMATION AVAILABLE🚨
• Laura and Jan both attended
• Laura’s Criminal Defense Lawyer, Christian Lueders, was there
• Ed Leiter was there for The State
• Clayton Echard was there
• Camera was in the room to record the proceedings
• Extra Security arrived when Laura arrived and left when Laura left
• The Lawyers spoke privately
• Today’s conference was previously listed on the docket as either a CCMC or Change of Plea Hearing. It was a CCMC, a Change of Plea was not entered
• Prior to today’s conference, Laura requested permission to travel, Clayton and Greg objected, but the judge is allowing it
• A settlement conference has been added to the court docket on August 28, 2026 at 2:30pm mst

*This post will be updated if information becomes available*

u/cnm1424 — 7 days ago