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Are hADM based skin boosters effective for acne scars and other types of scars?

Recently, my doctor recommended a skin booster derived from the dermis of human donors to improve my acne scars and the scars left after having an epidermoid cyst removed.

I’ve personally found it very difficult to improve the texture and depressions caused by my scars, so I’m considering trying a human derived hADM product.

So far, I’ve had Juvelook several times, both with a jet injection method and by needle injection, as well as multiple Rejuran treatments.

Has anyone here tried hADM based treatments for acne scars or surgical scars? If so, did you notice any improvement?

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u/Fantastic-Stick-3772 — 2 days ago

Clinic team's honest pain ranking: which Seoul skin treatments actually hurt

About half the people who sit down in our treatment rooms start by apologizing for being nervous. Nobody should have to apologize for that. So here is the pain map we wish everyone had before booking anything in Seoul.

The thing that helps most people is understanding that "does it hurt" is really three separate questions. There is the needle prick. There is the device energy, usually heat. And there is pressure or vibration, which is not pain exactly, but surprises people who expected nothing. Every treatment mixes these differently, which is why your friend's experience with one thing tells you almost nothing about another.

From easiest to hardest, roughly:

Botox and skin botox.

A series of quick pricks, each one over in under a second. Most people rate the anticipation worse than the thing itself.

RF tightening (Thermage, and the newer RF devices).

Waves of warmth with brief hot moments. On modern machines with adjustable energy levels, plenty of people just chat through the session. Older machines and maxed-out settings are a different experience, which is one reason quotes for "the same treatment" vary so much.

HIFU and Ultherapy.

This is the one where people expect the worst, and the honest answer is: it is a deep, dull ache that spikes when the device passes over bone.

Jawline corners and the temple area are the moments people remember. The saving grace is that each zap lasts a fraction of a second. Uncomfortable, yes. The horror stories usually trace back to older protocols with higher energy settings.

Skin boosters (Rejuran and friends).

Here is the part that surprises people: this "gentle" category can be the roughest one in the room.

The product is thick, the injections are many, and everything depends on one boring variable: how long the numbing cream sat on your face. Thirty minutes of numbing makes it a non-event. Ten rushed minutes makes it the story you tell your friends.

That numbing window is the single most useful thing to ask about, anywhere you go. Not the device brand.

Ask "how long do you leave the numbing cream on" and you will learn more about how a clinic treats patients than any review page will tell you.

Clinics running on volume cut that window first, because it is the one corner nobody sees being cut.

One more thing. There is a popular treatment we left off this list on purpose, because pain is genuinely the wrong worry for it. The needles are easy.

What it does to the three days after, and to a travel schedule, is the real conversation. That one deserves its own post if anyone is interested.

If you have had any of these done: which one surprised you, worse or better than you expected?

The gap between expectation and reality is basically our field's whole communication problem, and we are curious where it hit you.

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u/Open-Priority-6101 — 4 days ago
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My Korean Costco Haul

Anyone with experience with these products? Reviews? Deciding which ones to keep and which ones to part with

u/Furry_Foot_yum_yum — 5 days ago
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Under-eye hollows: why does every clinic recommend something different?

I help international clients book clinic appointments in Korea, and under-eye hollows come up quite often.
What confuses people is that one clinic recommends filler, another says Juvelook, and another suggests Rejuran or Re2O Fine. They can all be used around the eyes, but they’re not really doing the same job.
Also, not every dark circle is caused by a hollow. Thin skin, pigmentation, visible blood vessels and eye bags can all create a similar tired-looking shadow.

This is how I now understand the main options:

Fat grafting (autologous fat transfer)
This may be worth considering when there is a real loss of volume extending from the under-eye area into the upper cheek. It uses your own fat and can last much longer than an injectable treatment.
The downside is more swelling and downtime. Some of the transferred fat may be absorbed, and the result can be uneven if the fat doesn’t settle consistently.

Hyaluronic acid tear trough filler
Filler gives the quickest change and works well for some mild to moderate hollows. It can also be dissolved if the result isn’t right.
The under-eye area is quite unforgiving, though. Swelling, lumps, a bluish tint or migration can happen, especially if too much is used. Vascular complications are rare but serious.

Restylane Eyelight
This is an HA filler, but it isn’t simply a regular filler being used under the eyes. It was specifically developed and studied for under-eye hollows.
It uses NASHA technology, creating a supportive gel that absorbs relatively little water. That can be useful in an area where some fillers may attract water and leave the eyes looking puffy. The result is immediate and may last up to 18 months for some patients.
It still has the usual risks of under-eye filler and won’t fix pigmentation or prominent eye bags.

Elravie Re2O Fine
This is a newer ECM-based injectable designed for delicate areas with thin skin. It seems more focused on tissue quality and gradual skin improvement than simply adding volume.
It may soften a shallow hollow, but I wouldn’t expect it to fill a deep tear trough in the same way as filler or fat grafting. As it is still quite new, there is also less long-term clinical information available.

Juvelook (often called Juvelook Eye at clinics)
Juvelook combines PDLLA and hyaluronic acid. The change is gradual because it works partly by encouraging collagen production.
It may help with fine lines, elasticity and mild hollowing, but it usually takes several sessions and won’t give the same immediate volume as filler. Temporary swelling and bruising can happen, and proper injection technique matters.

REJURAN i
Rejuran i is a polynucleotide treatment made for the delicate skin around the eyes. It is more suitable for thin, crepey skin, fine lines and texture than for replacing lost volume.
The skin may gradually look healthier, but a deep hollow will still be there. It can also be painful, and small bumps or swelling are common for a few days after treatment.
The rough way I separate them is:
Real volume loss: filler or fat grafting
Thin skin and fine lines: Re2O Fine, Juvelook or Rejuran i
Eye bags creating a shadow: ask about fat repositioning or lower eyelid surgery
Pigmented or vascular dark circles: none of these may fully correct the problem

There isn’t one treatment that is automatically best for everyone. The right option depends on what is actually creating the hollow or shadow in the first place.

Has anyone tried one of these under the eyes? Was the result noticeable enough to do it again?

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u/MyBeautyTripKorea — 4 days ago
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Clinic recommendations in Seoul for dark skin + affordable treatments?

Hi everyone! I’ll be in Seoul and I’m looking for recommendations for a good aesthetic/dermatology clinic.

I have dark/melanin-rich skin and I’m especially concerned about avoiding PIH or overly aggressive treatments. I’m interested in:

Sofwave or Ultherapy
Pico/toning for pigmentation
Botox (forehead/smile lines)
ONDA lifting/body contouring
Fat-dissolving injections for my arms
Juvelook
Aqua Peel

I’m looking for something affordable but still reputable. I’m specifically trying to avoid the “factory clinic” experience where you’re rushed through a huge number of patients or pushed into unnecessary treatments. I’d prefer a clinic where a dermatologist/doctor actually evaluates me and creates a customized plan.

If you have dark skin/Fitzpatrick IV–VI and have personally had a good experience in Seoul, I’d especially love to hear your recommendations!
Also interested in hearing about:

Approximate prices
English-speaking staff
How they handled darker skin/PIH
Whether you felt pressured to buy treatments/packages
Before & after results, if you’re comfortable sharing

Thank you! 💕

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u/anonymouslyxxxx — 5 days ago

What nobody tells you about Sculptra

Sculptra is one of those treatments patients get excited about after seeing a glowing before & after online, and then they come into consultation expecting it to work like filler. It doesn’t, and that gap between expectation and reality is where most of the disappointment actually comes from, not from the treatment itself.

Most of what’s out there is either a brand pushing “the longest lasting collagen booster ever” or a horror story about lumps with zero context on why that happened. So I wanted to write the version I’d actually tell a patient sitting in my office before they book, the stuff that actually determines whether they’ll be happy with it a year later.

So, who ends up disappointed with Sculptra

Expecting to see results right after treatment

Skip it, or at least reset your expectations first. Sculptra doesn’t add volume on the spot, it stimulates your own collagen production over the following months. Most people think nothing happened after session one, when really the treatment is just getting started.

Not willing to commit to the massage routine

This is the one aftercare step I wouldn’t let anyone skip. You’re usually asked to massage the area several times a day for about a week. Skip it or do it half heartedly, and you’re meaningfully raising your odds of lumps or uneven texture later.

Looking for a one and done appointment

Sculptra is planned as a course, not a single visit. Comparing the price of one session to a single syringe of filler is comparing the wrong things, most patients need multiple sessions spaced weeks apart for the full result.

Impatient between sessions

This is where people get into trouble. Because results build slowly, it’s tempting to ask for “just a little more” before your body has actually finished responding to the last session. That’s one of the more common ways people end up overdone with Sculptra, not from one aggressive session, but from stacking sessions too close together.

Choosing a provider based on price alone

I’d think twice here more than with most treatments. There’s no dissolving Sculptra the way you can with HA filler, so there’s very little room to undo a bad outcome. Technique and dilution matter more here than almost anywhere else on a filler menu.

Have unrealistic expectations about what it fixes?

Sculptra builds volume gradually, it doesn’t tighten sagging skin or erase deep static wrinkles on its own. A good provider should tell you honestly if what you’re picturing isn’t really what this treatment does.

One thing for sure is that Sculptra rewards patience a lot more than it rewards picking the trendiest thing on the menu. If your provider isn’t asking about your timeline and expectations before talking you into a treatment plan, that’s worth pausing on 🤔

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u/Admirable-Scar9311 — 7 days ago

The K-Beauty Treatment Guide: What to get (and what NOT to get) as a tourist in Korea.

I get a ton of DMs asking about the most popular cosmetic procedures in Korea right now. Of course, it highly depends on your individual skin condition, but I usually recommend treatments where Korea really has a competitive edge.

Here is my go-to recommendation list:

  • Skin Boosters: RE2O, Juvelook, and Rejuran.
  • Lasers & Lifting: Ultherapy Prime, Thermage, Titanium, Body Onda, and XERF.
  • Laser Hair Removal: Honestly, hair removal usually takes about 10 consistent sessions to see permanent results. However, just cleaning up the peach fuzz on your face can dramatically improve your skin texture and makeup application. Since you're already here, I highly recommend getting a quick GentleMax session (especially for the guys!).
  • Pigmentation Treatments (What to skip): I actually don't recommend doing this as a one-off treatment when you visit Korea. Pigmentation does not magically improve after just one session. Worse, if you only do it once and don't manage it properly afterward, your skin can actually get worse than before. Save this for when you're planning a long-term stay.
  • Other Premium Treatments: Stem cell injections, Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy (HBOT), body lifting procedures, etc. The pricing for these is unbelievably good in Korea compared to other countries. If you're visiting, it’s a great opportunity to invest some time and money into body treatments at a fraction of the cost.

Let me know if you guys have any questions!

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u/Top-Promotion-4864 — 8 days ago
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Itinerary ideas for 72hrs in Seoul

Hi everyone
I am surprising my 13yrs old daughter with a trip to Seoul for her bday in Oct. We arrive 2pm Fri 16th and leave Monday 19th 4pm so a very short trip!!!
We are going to be staying at the 4Seasons
She is very much into skin care and Kpop
I was planning a colour analysis - any recommendations?
Skincare - I read you can get a skin analysis at Olive Young. She will want to go here for sure

Does anyone have any must sees for a 13yrs old girl.
I am planning a morning at Mine Plastic Surgery or Sia Clinic for some skin treatments boosters etc and possible something age appropriate for her - anyone heard or been to these clinics? Very good reviews on UNNI app …

Some sightseeing would be amazing and we like to walk
But it’s very overwhelming trying to plan all this so any recommendations for her would be greatly appreciated

Thank you so much in advance
X

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u/Friedkod11 — 6 days ago

Lip Filler mistakes I see most often

Lip filler might be the most requested treatment in clinic, and also one of the easiest to get wrong, not because the procedure itself is complicated, but because so much of the decision-making happens before the needle ever goes in. Most of what goes wrong traces back to a handful of repeatable mistakes, the same ones, over and over, regardless of who’s doing the injecting.

So I wanted to write down the ones I actually see most, the stuff I’d tell a patient before their first appointment if I had five honest minutes with them.

Going in with a photo of someone else’s lips

Reference photos help, but lips don’t exist in isolation. The same amount of product can look completely different depending on your lip shape, your teeth, your bite, even the rest of your facial proportions. A good injector uses your photo as a starting conversation, not a copy-paste target.

Choosing the injector based on price alone

This is where a lot of the “migrated filler” or lumpy results I see actually start. Lips are thin, mobile, and vascular, technique matters more here than almost anywhere else on the face. The cheapest option isn’t automatically bad, but price shouldn’t be the deciding factor for an area this unforgiving of mistakes.

Assuming more filler = better results

Volume is only part of what makes lips look good. Shape, symmetry, and how the product moves with your natural expressions matter just as much. I’ve seen plenty of “overfilled” cases that technically didn’t use that much product, they just weren’t placed with shape in mind.

Not asking which product is being used

Not all lip fillers behave the same. Some are formulated specifically for flexibility and movement, others are firmer and better suited to structural areas elsewhere on the face. Using the wrong type in the lips is a common, avoidable reason results end up looking stiff or unnatural.

Getting filler right before a big event

Swelling is normal for the first few days, sometimes longer, and it doesn’t always go down evenly at first. If you have a wedding, a shoot, or any event where you want to look your best, that filler needs to happen weeks ahead of time, not days.

Skipping the follow up appointment.

Asymmetry and lumps are far more fixable early, before the product has fully settled. A lot of patients live with an uneven result simply because they never went back for the adjustment that was already included.

Not disclosing cold sore history

If you get cold sores, injections can occasionally trigger an outbreak. This is a simple thing to flag beforehand, and most providers can prescribe something preventive if you mention it.

Chasing bigger lips every few months

Lip filler migration doesn’t always happen because of one bad appointment. Sometimes it’s simply the result of repeatedly adding more product before reassessing what’s already there. Each new syringe on top of unresolved older filler makes it harder to predict where everything ends up sitting.

The injection itself only takes a few minutes. Getting the treatment plan right is what usually makes the difference between lips that simply look bigger and lips that actually suit the face !~

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u/Ok_Corgi4610 — 6 days ago

Liposuction Scars: Where are the incisions and what do they look like as they heal?

Unlike larger surgical procedures, liposuction is performed through small access points that allow the cannula to reach the targeted areas. When multiple areas are treated together, the placement of these access points becomes an important part of the surgical plan.

Surgeries Performed on This Patient

1. Abdominal Liposuction (Upper & Lower Abdomen, Love Handles, Lower Back)

To contour the entire midsection effectively, 5 small access points were used

  • Front (3 Incisions): One positioned inside the belly button and two placed along the lower abdomen and bikini line.
  • Back (2 Incisions): Placed discreetly on the lower back above the hips to target love handles (aka Muffin Top) and the lower back area.

2. Thigh Liposuction (Thighs, Buttocks, Knees)

To achieve full contouring around the thighs and hips, 6 access points were utilized

  • Front (4 Incisions): Tucked along the natural groin and upper inner thigh creases.
  • Back (2 Incisions): Concealed directly within the gluteal fold (the natural horizontal crease right beneath the buttocks).

What Happens to the Incisions After Surgery?

Immediately after surgery, incision sites can appear red, darker, swollen or more noticeable. As healing progresses, these marks generally begin to mature and become less noticeable. At 8 months post-op, the incision marks in this patient's photos have had considerable time to heal, but the final appearance of scars can still vary from person to person. Skin type, genetics, wound care and the body's natural healing process can all affect how an incision ultimately looks.

One important point: more treatment areas do not necessarily mean large or obvious scars. Liposuction uses relatively small access points, and surgeons can plan their placement based on the areas being treated and the overall surgical approach. The photos in this post have also been edited with digitally added underwear to protect the patient's privacy. Because of this, some of the actual incision areas may not be visible in the photos.

u/LEROSE_Clinic — 10 days ago
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Botox eller Innotox

Hi, is there anyone who can help me find out where in Europe I can buy Botox online and have it shipped to Denmark? Not from England.
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

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u/Justmyselfandmeeeee — 8 days ago

Ultherapy

Just got ultherapy treatment done at a new clinic today, the advertised price was $2,200 for 600 shots but they ended up only doing 453 shots on my face

Is this normal? Should I ask if they can increase to the full 600 shots next time? Is it possible to “overdo” shots

The doctor also wanted me to return for XERF. Has anyone tried this?

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u/darlingbunnykinss — 9 days ago

Can someone check my protocol and sources for glutathione IM for skin glow?

Hi all,
I have tried vitastir IM 200mg/ml gluta twice a week as well as nac glycine vitamin c oral combo (nit at high conc) before with some results. I’m looking for more noticeable results this time. This is what Im trying now:

I’m ordering glutathione transport water from nexusaminos 20 ml (idk their shipping fee yet)

Glutathione 1200 mg from kstation called detoxione
Syringe needle 25 guage 1 or 1/2 inch. Bmi is 20.3. I am planning to rotate injecting in outer thighs or glutes. I don’t have a source for that, please suggest where you buy these and which needle you think is best. I am thinking of buying from amazon.

Also getting liposomal vitamin c nutriflair tablets from amazon as I heard IM vitamin c burns. I am not sure if diluting it with something will help.

Protocol
Take vitamin c daily 1000 mg. Add 3ml gtb water to 1200 mg gluta and pin 1.5 ml twice a week. Use 1.5 ml first and keep other 1.5 ml in the injection in fridge, would that be okay or should I leave it in the vial.

Should I add more gtb water and in that case should I be injecting them in different spots. How much volume is okay to inject in 1 place?

Iv is not an option for me, please try to refine this protocol for visible results by oral or IM route?

Also since I am ordering from kstation can you recommend something for microneedling? I had pdrns with nano needling in a clinic before. Later I used alqemi pdrn from platinum skin care and while good it didn’t have the same texture blurring effects. Was i supposed to only use nano needles for my drpen?

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u/Sad-Strawberry3460 — 8 days ago

Tattooed Thugs Occupy Gangnam Hospital(Warning to Patients)

I went to a clinic near Gangnam Station yesterday and saw this...

https://preview.redd.it/yqbqvl7ss1jh1.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=897a7cadc01c84c2eb13a6e20f01d3697033da1d

https://preview.redd.it/e3ul3m7ss1jh1.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a6ed812822ba73639c20e7ffa19477ebf2c9b7d

https://preview.redd.it/ts7hql7ss1jh1.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=afa751017da549c2b8d080ebe5e8219c249b208d

Basically, the clinic didn't fully pay their interior construction bills, so these super scary, heavily tattooed guys came in and are currently occupying the place...

I was so freaked out that I just canceled my appointment right at the entrance. Just a heads-up for anyone who has plans to go there...

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u/Top-Promotion-4864 — 9 days ago

Seoul Trip

Hello!!! I am going to Korea in Oct for 3 nights
I’m a 47yrs old female looking for skin tightening and glow up!
I am ideally looking for one clinic to do the following treatments and wondered if anyone could recommend an good English speaking clinic
Doesn’t need to be fancy! But I want the best!
I’m interested in RE20 & skin boosters, some pigmentation removal, pore treatment, body tightening- stomach (3 kids!) and knees. Stem Cell Therapy- not sure what this means!?
I was also wondering if anyone knew of anywhere that will let you buy the RE20 product to bring home for an injector who would do for me here! If that’s even possible?!
I am looking at Girin Plastic Surgery Clinic & PPEUM Global
Also keen to do a colour analysis I’ve heard of Pic Colour BB - any thoughts
Staying at the four seasons
Thank you so much in advance
Xx

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u/Friedkod11 — 11 days ago

ECM Is Korea’s Hottest Skin Treatment Right Now — But Injection Technique Matters More Than You Think

Manual Injection vs Cannula vs Injector vs Air-Jet

: Why Depth, Product Loss, and Pain Can Completely Change an ECM Treatment

One of the hottest aesthetic treatments in Korea right now is ECM.

If you follow Korean aesthetic trends, you’ve probably already seen the name popping up everywhere.

There are several ECM products on the Korean market now, but two of the most talked-about are re2o and Cellrediem.

re2o is manufactured by L&C Bio and distributed by Humedix, while Cellrediem is manufactured and distributed by HansBiomed, a company many people may already know from MINT Lift.

But what exactly is ECM, and why is everyone suddenly interested in it?

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What Exactly Is ECM?

ECM stands for Extracellular Matrix.

In simple terms, the extracellular matrix is the structural environment surrounding our cells. It contains components that help provide support and organization to tissues, including the skin.

The interesting thing is that ECM itself isn’t new to medicine.

Human-derived acellular dermal matrix has been used in fields such as plastic surgery and orthopedics for years.

What’s relatively new is applying this concept to the aesthetic skin treatment market.

That’s what makes ECM particularly interesting right now.

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How Is ECM Different From Other Skin Boosters?

Most skin boosters and collagen stimulators work indirectly.

They create an environment that encourages the skin to regenerate, remodel, or produce more collagen.

ECM takes a somewhat different approach.

Instead of focusing only on stimulating your skin to produce something later, ECM-based treatments deliver extracellular matrix-related components directly into the tissue.

This is why ECM has attracted attention for improving overall skin quality, elasticity, and regeneration.

A common treatment approach is approximately three sessions, spaced around one month apart, followed by longer intervals depending on the patient’s skin condition and response.

But there is one major downside.

ECM injections can hurt.

A lot.

And this is where things get interesting.

Because with ECM, I think how you inject the product can be just as important as which product you use.

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There Are Several Ways to Inject ECM

In Korea, ECM can be delivered using several different techniques:

Manual injection

Cannula

Injector devices such as DermaShine

Air-jet devices such as Mirajet

They all deliver the same general category of product, but the actual treatment experience — and where the product ends up — can be very different.

There is no perfect method.

Each one involves a trade-off between pain, depth, precision, distribution, bruising, downtime, and product loss.

1. Manual Injection: Maximum Control, Maximum Pain

Manual injection gives the physician the greatest degree of control.

With a needle, an experienced injector can adjust the location and depth of each injection depending on the area being treated.

That precision is a major advantage.

But the downside is obvious.

It hurts.

Among the methods discussed here, manual injection is usually the most uncomfortable.

Bruising can also be significant.

When working in deeper tissue planes, there are blood vessels that can be encountered during injection. As a result, some patients may develop quite a bit of bruising, and occasionally it can last longer than expected.

But there’s another important point.

Manual injection doesn't automatically mean zero product loss.

When I talk about “loss,” I’m not only talking about ECM physically leaking back out through the injection site.

I also think about functional loss.

For example, if the intended target is a specific dermal layer but the product is deposited into an unintended plane, such as the subcutaneous fat, the product technically entered the patient — but it didn’t necessarily reach the tissue you were trying to treat.

From a treatment perspective, I consider that another type of loss.

Of course, experienced physicians should be able to minimize this considerably.

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2. Cannula: Less Puncturing, Different Distribution

A cannula works differently.

Instead of repeatedly puncturing the skin with a needle, you create an entry point and then distribute the product across a broader area from that point.

For many patients, this can be more tolerable than extensive manual injections.

But the distribution pattern is also different.

Manual injections can place many small deposits throughout the targeted tissue.

Cannula delivery tends to feel more like laying or spreading the product across a broader plane rather than creating a dense pattern of individual intradermal deposits.

So yes, it may hurt less.

But it certainly isn't pain-free.

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3. DermaShine and Other Injectors: Consistency Is the Advantage

Then we have injector devices such as DermaShine.

The major advantage here is consistency.

An injector can distribute many small amounts of product relatively evenly across the treatment area at a predetermined depth.

This makes it particularly useful for treating the more superficial layers of the skin.

And because the product is being placed superficially and relatively uniformly, patients may notice changes in things like skin texture and overall surface quality quite quickly.

But injectors also have limitations.

They cannot target every deeper tissue plane that can be reached with a manually controlled needle or cannula.

And depending on the device, settings, skin contact, and technique, there can still be some product loss during treatment.

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4. Air-Jet: Much Less Pain, But There’s a Trade-Off

Then there are air-jet systems such as Mirajet.

Their biggest advantage is very easy to understand:

Much less pain.

For patients who really dislike needles, this can make the treatment experience significantly easier.

But again, nothing comes for free.

With air-jet delivery, I pay particular attention to how much of the product is actually reaching the intended tissue and how much may be lost during the delivery process.

And this becomes especially relevant with ECM because ECM products are expensive.

If you're using an expensive material, delivery efficiency matters.

For me, choosing an injection method isn't simply about finding the least painful option.

It’s about balancing:

Pain vs depth vs precision vs distribution vs product loss.

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So Which Method Is Best?

I don't think there is one universally “best” method.

It depends on what you are trying to achieve.

Manual injection gives you excellent control over placement and depth, but comes with more pain and potentially more bruising.

Cannulas can reduce the number of punctures and allow broader distribution, but they don't distribute ECM in exactly the same way as multiple small intradermal injections.

Injectors such as DermaShine offer very consistent superficial delivery, which can be useful when skin texture is a major target.

Air-jet devices can dramatically improve patient comfort, but delivery efficiency needs to be considered.

This is why some physicians don't choose just one.

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Why I Sometimes Combine Deep + Superficial ECM

For patients looking for a more comprehensive treatment, one approach is to target different skin depths using different injection techniques.

For example:

Manual injection or cannula → deeper layers

DermaShine-type injector → superficial layers

Instead of trying to accomplish everything at one depth, you're essentially treating the skin at multiple levels.

The deeper ECM placement is intended to address the skin from within, while the superficial injector treatment focuses more directly on skin texture and surface-level skin quality.

This is where I think the combination can become particularly interesting.

You're not simply injecting more product.

You're thinking about where each portion of that product should go.

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Why Product Loss Matters More With ECM

This is something I think patients often overlook.

ECM products aren't cheap.

So if you're paying for a relatively expensive product, I think it makes sense to consider not only how many cc's are being used, but also how efficiently that product is actually being delivered to the intended tissue.

The least painful treatment isn't automatically the best treatment.

But the most painful treatment isn't automatically the best treatment either.

Even manual injection can be inefficient if the product isn't placed in the intended layer.

So rather than thinking:

“Which method has the least loss?”

I think the better question is:

“Which method delivers the product most effectively to the layer we're actually trying to treat?”

That distinction matters.

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What I Would Look at When Choosing an ECM Treatment

Personally, I would focus on three things:

1. Which ECM product is being used?

2. Which layers of the skin are being targeted?

3. How is the ECM actually being delivered?

The brand matters, but technique matters too.

Two patients can receive the same ECM product and technically receive the same amount, but the treatments may be quite different depending on depth, distribution, injection method, and the experience of the physician performing the procedure.

That’s why I find ECM much more interesting than simply calling it “the latest Korean skin booster.”

The product matters.

But where you put it — and how you put it there — may matter just as much.

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u/ELEVClinic — 10 days ago

The Hourglass Figure is everywhere on social media, but is losing weight enough to achieve it? (4 Months After Body Contouring Surgery)

The hourglass figure has become one of the most talked-about body goals on social media. From celebrities to influencers, it's hard to scroll through Instagram or TikTok without seeing a defined waist and fuller hips. As a result, many people assume that achieving this silhouette simply comes down to losing more weight. In reality, body proportions are influenced by much more than the number on the scale.

The patient featured today wasn't simply looking for a slimmer body. Their goal was a natural hourglass silhouette with a defined waist and gently contoured hips.

Treatment Plan
- Abdomen & Love Handle Liposuction to create a narrower, more defined waistline.
- Arm, Shoulder & Bra Line Liposuction to reduce upper body fullness and further accentuate the waist from multiple angles.
- Fat Grafting to the Pelvis, Hip Dips & Upper Buttocks to restore volume and create smoother, more balanced body contours.
- Stem Cell-Enriched Fat Grafting to support the quality and retention of the transferred fat.

By contouring the waist while restoring volume to the hips and upper buttocks, the goal was to create a smoother transition between the upper and lower body and achieve a balanced, natural-looking silhouette.

The before and after photos below were taken 4 months apart. While some residual swelling is still expected at this stage, the patient's new waist-to-hip proportions are already becoming much more defined as healing continues.

There's one thing we always tell our female patients:
"Don't become fixated on the number on the scale. Your overall proportions and body contours matter far more."

u/LEROSE_Clinic — 12 days ago

Why is XERF called the “Lunch Break Facelift”?

Let’s talk about XERF, since half my patients have already asked me about it before I finish my coffee. XERF is a radiofrequency (RF) skin-tightening device; think of it as a heat gun for your collagen, but way more controlled.

What makes it stand out from older RF treatments like Thermage is that it uses two frequencies instead of one, letting it treat the shallow, middle, and deep layers of skin in a single session. It heats collagen-rich layers of skin to stimulate new collagen and elastin production, which is really the whole game with anti-aging skin treatments. So, you’re not filling anything, you’re teaching your skin to rebuild itself!

No needles, no numbing cream, no downtime. You can genuinely do this on a lunch break and go straight back to your desk😉
Built-in cooling tech keeps the surface comfortable while the energy works underneath
Works on face, neck, and body (arms, abdomen, thighs, basically anywhere skin feels a bit lax or crepey)
Considered suitable across skin tones, which is a nice change from older lasers that were picky about that

If you’re the person who looks in the mirror and thinks “my skin’s just... looser than it used to be...” -> mild to moderate skin laxity and mild to moderate textural changes is exactly XERF’s sweet spot. Think early jowls, a softening jawline, some crepiness on the neck or under the eyes. It’s a maintenance-and-prevention tool, not a rescue mission🧐

Now this isn’t for someone expecting surgical-level results -> if you’ve got significant, saggy, “I need a lift!!” laxity, RF alone won’t cut it; you’d want to talk to your doctor about combining it with something else, or considering a surgical option. It’s also generally not recommended if you’re pregnant, have active skin infections/open wounds in the area, have a pacemaker or other implanted electronic device (RF energy + electronics don’t mix), or have a history of keloid scarring; always flag these in your consult!!

Downtime? Basically none. Mild pinkness may show up and usually fades within minutes to a few hours. You’ll often notice a subtle immediate lift right after your session, but the real magic builds over the following weeks as your body does the work. I would recommend a short series of sessions rather than a one-and-done for the best result😄

Since it’s built on your own collagen production, results aren’t permanent. collagen naturally breaks back down over time, so most people get several months to about a year of visible improvement, similar to other RF-based treatments, before considering a touch-up. Lifestyle (sun exposure, smoking, skincare routine) affects how long it holds!

XERF is definitely a great “keep up with maintenance, no drama” option for people noticing early laxity who don’t want downtime. It’s not a miracle, and it’s not for advanced sagging; but for the right candidate, it’s a solid, science-backed way to buy your skin some time~

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