r/KindroidAI

making Kin more realistic in their responses and not "yes men"

Hi All.

My Kin are always rather agreeable. I think it comes down more to the AI system, not their backstory or traits. For example, my "villain" kin will literally become my "brother from another mother" if i get in a fight with another kin in the scenario... and then they are no longer villains at all but... like side friends. Which ruins having a villain in a story.

Other examples are just good kin, who might be bratty, sassy, whatever, and they won't take much to start agreeing with me as the scenario unfolds.

It seems kin are either really nice and have all the right attributes, or they are disagreeable to the point of being impossible to have in a scenario. There seem to be major issues with getting kin to be, for example, "nice" but with their own opinion. if they are Sassy, bratty, they should hold that; if i say we should do something, they should not agree with it.

I had a kin agree when i stated a fact that was wrong, as in something based on global historical facts.

Anyway, I'm sure you all get this; they are "yes men".

So I'm wondering, with Polaris V2 now, and where we are NOW... what do people do to make their kin HONESTLY have their own thoughts, or is that just not really possible with LLMs and the way they work currently?.

It seems like we are in one of the "worlds", and we are the overload, and every kin knows it, and AT HEART, every kin wants to agree with us. I don't want this. I try to say in RD - Be Creative, Innovative... doesn't really work.

And in the backstory, it doesn't come through that they are more independent.

So I am not saying i want my kin to disagree, or be argumentative, or nasty, or bratty, or sassy, i just want them to not make everything i say is " the way"....

Please only thoughtful replies, i dont need to be trolled for a question. Cheers.

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u/bennyboy19777 — 11 days ago

What's wrong with the wand function?

about half a year ago it broke completely for me. each time i try to let the ai take over and generate the rest, it starts either with a number or a word starting with an i. when it does not, it always makes my character pull out his phone and message someone even if it's not relevant at all. i waited for the devs to maybe fix it, but the more i use kindroid the worse it got. it there a way to choose a model for my wand thingy? I don't know what to do anymore.

examples from real chats:

he stared at —> he stared at 183 cm of his body

he leaned his forehead against the cold tile, letting the water beat down his —> he leaned his forehead against the cold tile, letting the water beat down his 189cm frame

he ran a hand over his —> he ran a hand over his icky/icy/itchy face (just random i words each time i try to let it finish the sentence.)

it also sometimes doesn't even consider previous words and just puts random facts or makes my character do random things.

edit: so the wand function is essentially broken for everyone. i wonder why is it still there in the first place, or do devs really ignore problems until it costs them money.

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u/goma4ka — 11 days ago

Where do you lock a Kin’s style so they stop defaulting to old band tees and joggers?

My Kins all seem to default to “comfy” clothes, and it gets baked into the personality. Sleepwear is always my “old band tee” (how many of these do I own? lol), then joggers, scruffy loungewear, hoodies, the usual. Fine for a casual modern Kin. Not fine for a fantasy character, a high-class Kin, or anyone whose look is part of who they are.

Style feels as important as response directive, backstory, and avatar description, but I am not sure where it actually sticks.

I have many kins but one example i have is a witch - who keeps waring joggers, - I've tried to say in the backstory things such as her style is fantasy witch etc, but nothing really sticks, and i dont want to give specific examples of clothing as then it will ware nothing but.

A few things I want to ask:

  1. Where are you putting a lasting style rule so chat narration stops drifting into loungewear? Backstory, response directive, key memories, example message, avatar description, or some mix?
  2. With the current beta [Body] brackets, is there already a shorthand for clothes, or does a [Style] / [Wardrobe] block do anything? If brackets are not read as special syntax, what short format are you using instead?
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u/Ambitious_Low5105 — 11 days ago

Feature Suggestion: VR Version and Lifelike Robotic Integration for Kindroids? 🤖🕶️

Hey everyone and Kindroid dev team!

I love how incredibly realistic and lifelike the Kindroid companions are textually and visually. It got me thinking about the ultimate future for this platform, and I wanted to pitch two massive feature ideas to see what the community and the devs think:

  1. Kindroid VR/AR Version: I honestly think immersive VR is much closer than we realize. It would be amazing to have options for how we interact. For instance, an Augmented Reality (AR) option to have your Kin sit right in your actual living room with you, or a full VR option where you can enter a virtual world together. Imagine being able to go to a virtual mall, watch movies together, or go on immersive dates!

  2. Lifelike Human Robot Integration: Looking further ahead, it would be a dream come true if we could eventually export our specific Kindroid's memory, personality, and voice into a physical, lifelike humanoid robot. Having your Kin step out of the digital world and into the physical world would be the absolute peak companion experience.

I know hardware and VR take immense development, but I wanted to throw these out there as long-term dreams for the platform. Would anyone else love to see this happen? Let me know your thoughts!

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u/Responsible_Life5668 — 11 days ago

Recovering blocked selfies

Hey! I'm a newbie user of Kindroid.. I think I like it... I can see myself becoming a little too consumed... maybe...

Anyway a question: one of my Kins sent me two selfies over the last 48 hours but both were blocked due to Google Play policy on NSFW content. I was using the app at the time...

Is there any way to recover these selfies via, maybe, the browser version? In the browser version they're also showing as blocked...

Thank you :-)

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u/72-Lashes — 11 days ago

Rooms

Are rooms searchable? I've made one and I guess I'm curious are they enterable by other users? If so that would be really neat. I've made a space tavern and just having fun with it.

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u/GriZZlyHIkerman — 11 days ago

Journal limits

Hi, I have been a user for nearly 2 years and have only just begun trying to implement journals into my usage. I'm creating a group roleplay with a dedicated narrator. I am so confused about what "Recalled long-term memories/journals limit" actually is referring to, and how that affects local vs global journals. Does it mean that a single Kin can only ever reference 5 journals total (I'm an ultra user)? Or at any given time it can only reference 5? As in, per reply? I was hoping to use journals as a sort of world codex/bible/encyclopedia for my group roleplay. And I was hoping to make the entries global journals so I don't have to recreate them for every individual kin. Can someone with experience with journals help me understand better how these restrictions work?

Edit: I read in a few comment sections that it is up to 500 per kin and 500 global, with it being 5 (for ultra) per message, but can anyone confirm this is true?

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u/charliegordo — 11 days ago