r/LeeSinMains

As the title says, coming from a guy that LOVES bruiser builds, I think bruiser lee sin has been completely outclassed.

Specifically, I think going conqueror over electrocute is just mindlessly following an outdated build, the new meta is so late game focussed and damage heavy that realistically any advantage conqueror may have provided in the early skirmishes just completely disappears post 20 minutes (and closing games pre-20 minutes is just not realistic anymore) because you will just get oneshot before you can fully stack it.

Electrocute instead offers a big enough damage addition to REALLY make lee feel like the early game menace he should be, allowing him to finally deal with some very problematic matchups, and also allows you to access amazing runes that normally you wouldn't run with conqueror (sudden impact, ultimate hunter and especially the trinket haste rune which makes buying control wards almost optional)

Unless the enemy team is genuinely all tanks/bruisers there are virtually zero scenarios where you should go bruiser over lethality/full damage.

Bruiser lee sin is a jack of all trades master of none, but in the worst way: you don't have enough damage to one shot carries, you don't have enough durability to survive said carries, you don't have enough sustain to beat another bruiser (playing bruiser into ANY stat checker is MISERABLE), you scale terribly and if you're not 5 kills ahead you just don't get to play at all.

Full damage electrocute build fixes almost all of these problems and especially the last one: not only do you have enough damage to one shot carries, but due to how disgustingly high damage outputs are this season, you get to just beat the hell out of bruisers as well.

You also become more slippery and get to take full advantage of lee sin's mobility without running out of energy because instead of going constantly in and out, or having to stick to the target continuously to finish them off, you get to just delete them almost unreactably and then dip back to safety waiting for your Q to come back up and finish the fight with your team.

Going back to the comparison, personally I've always found that, bar some cases when lee was actually meta, the bruiser build struggled to really 1v9 unless genuinely like 10 kills ahead, but assassin lee just snowballs out of control and much more easily opens options for shutdowns when behind. He also scales incredibly well and is surprisingly easy to survive with compared to the past.

For reference, the build I'm using right now is Electrocute with triumph and alacrity - Bastion breaker, omnivamp boots, voltaic cyclosword, LDR and lastly optional defensive items like maw, DD, GA or occasionally a very helpful serpent's fang.

Ever since sundered sky got nerfed to the ground, i as a master lee sin player dont know what is even good to build. eclipse into black cleaver doesnt feel right, voltaic is nice but you have to go lethality+crit. full bruiser is just ass. i need words from others to translate my thoughts

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They replayed it, and Caedral also looked into it in the linked video, but they didn't really mention the cool mechanics he used to pull that kick off. In real time, when I was watching, I was surprised by how fast he pulled off that kick, and it looked almost buggy. I realized he used the W trick in Leesin, where you can input ult and spells mid Q2 dash if you W someone into Q2 while mid W dash. This is probably the only reason Berserker and Vulcan can't instantly react to the Leesin. It made his kick flash instant.
A similar mechanic was used in the famous Canyon kick. He ws ambessa into q2 kick flash on Berserker all while he is traveling in the air.

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/wlnpgh/canyon_insane_insec_vs_kdf/

Jose played out of his mind that series, and I wanted to highlight a sick play with more depth than people realize. The presence of mind to pull this off in basically the fight that will decide the game is so insane.

I´ve been playing Lee for more than 10 years now and only this year after I started messing around with crit I realized how incredible OP it is to auto right after a kick while the enemy is in the air.

It sound crazy but as it happens you can only auto after r when:

1. Your next auto is ready
2. You are in range of auto attack
3. You have to right click the enemy after R

Knowing that it makes sense now, as some who mostly focus on flashy insecs with flash and W. You tend to create the most distance between you and your target to secure successful kick.

In those scenarios its risky to go for a insect into your team followed by and auto in the air since they can dash, move or flash.

This mechanic is most effective going for an execute, with lethality and Crit now as viable options my only thought is "I should have been practicing this all this time".

It´s amazing that Lee keeps evolving and the Corpse kick brought fresh air and new players, my advice is focus on the good old combos we all know and love, but if you Auto after Kicks you will ad a huge amount of damage to your gameplay.