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Asharites are the sons of Aristotle

From the beliefs of the Asharis is that تحرك (movement) for Allah is محال (impossible) because if that was the case there has to be a محرك (mover) that moves Allah. تعالى عما قالت الأشعرية علوا كبيرا. This is wrong as Allah can do what he wills like he affirms to himself and we don’t limit Allah like they do. That’s why you’ll find the likes of nawawi āamidi others that will purposely go against the salaf in Allah doing الاستواء or Allah laughing or Allah revealing his saaq etc.

Rather they go further and say that Allah can’t change التغير what they mean is that Allah can’t at one point be angry then at another point boast about the action of his slave.

Nawawi states:

(باب بيان الرجلين يقتل أحدهما الآخر يدخلان الجنة) •
\[1890\] قوله صلى اللّٰه عليه وسلم (يضحك اللّٰه إلى رجلين يقتل أحدهما الآخر كلاهما يدخل الجنة يقاتل هذا في سبيل اللّٰه فيستشهد ثم يتوب اللّٰه على القاتل فيسلم فيقاتل في سبيل اللّٰه فيستشهد) قال القاضي الضحك هنا استعارة في حق اللّٰه تعالى لأنه لا يجوز عليه سبحانه الضحك المعروف في حقنا لأنه إنما يصح من الأجسام وممن يجوز عليه تغير الحالات والله تعالى منزه عن ذلك وإنما المراد به الرضا بفعلهما والثواب عليه وحمد فعلهما ومحبته وتلقي رسل اللّٰه لهما بذلك لأن الضحك من أحدنا إنما يكون عند موافقته ما يرضاه وسروره وبره لمن يلقاه قال ويحتمل أن يكون المراد هنا ضحك ملائكة اللّٰه تعالى الذين يوجههم لقبض روحه وإدخاله الجنة كما يقال قتل السلطان فلانا أي أمر بقتله »

He brings the Hadith of Allah laughing to two men where one killed the other.

He bring qadhi iyyadh statement saying Allahs laughter is metaphorical such that laughing is synonymous with ones that have اجسام bodies referring to creation.then comes the Aristotelian part he says ITS AFFIRMED TO THOSE WHO CHANGE حالات AND ALLAH IS FREE FROM THAT.
Look at their evil beliefs مزق الله الأشعرية كل ممزق

Nawawi from the necessity of his doctrines also believes Allah wills but here is the problem

He states:

قال النووي في رسالته الأصول والضوابط ص24 :" مَسْأَلَة

مَذْهَب اهل الْحق الايمان بِالْقدرِ واثباته وان جَمِيع الكائنات خَيرهَا وشرها بِقَضَاء الله تَعَالَى وَقدره
وَهُوَ مُرِيد لَهَا كلهَا
وَيكرهُ الْمعاصِي مَعَ انه مُرِيد لَهَا لحكمة يعلمهَا سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَى

He states that Allah not only wills good and bad for his creation rather according to nawawi he is مريد لها that he wants it. One may ask why does he take such a position because he believes Allah can’t change so Allah willing for one to disbelieve and one to believe would mean Allah is pleased with one and not the other therefore “change” occurs. but nawawi says Allah wants both due to him believing that Allah can’t be pleased with one while being pleased with the other as يستلزم التغير
Because it requires change and anything that can or requires change according to him will need a changer.

The modajanah must realise that these aren’t mere mistakes where one can just cite the Hadith ان الله تجاوز عن أمتي الخطأ والنسيان وما استكروا عليه.
Verily Allah has pardoned \[or been lenient with\] for me my ummah: their mistakes, their forgetfulness, and that which they have been forced to do under duress.

Rather these are doctrinal beliefs that are spouted purposely to confuse the ummah and to block them from knowing who Allah actually is through his quran and the prophets information that were given to us so the more such doctrines are defended the more misguidance will grow in the ummah and I fear it will be said:

An-Nahl - Verse 25

لِيَحْمِلُوا أَوْزَارَهُمْ كَامِلَةً يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ وَمِنْ أَوْزَارِ الَّذِينَ يُضِلُّونَهُم بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ أَلَا سَاءَ مَا يَزِرُونَ

Let them bear their burdens in full on the Day of Judgment as well as some of the burdens of those they mislead without knowledge. Evil indeed is what they will bear!

اللهم اهدنا وهدى بنا واجعلنا سببا لمن اهتدى

Salam everyone,

Recently, when I was surfing the YouTube, I accidentally stumbled upon an anti-Islamic channel Mr and mrs friendly exmuslim.

Initially, I thought it's just like most other small channels nagging about Islam, but then I realized they have a lot of followers, and a quick search about them brought no rebuttals against them.

I wanted to know if there is anyone here or know other brothers who have engaged with them (especially on YouTube)

salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh ikhwaan

Any subreddit similar to LHOT (this subreddit)?

I didn't mark it a question flair because this is meta and not related to islam. I apologize if this is inappropriate

jazakallahu khayran