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What differentiates Madoka from other magical girl shows isn't its content, but its tone and pacing

I had originally posted this essay to r/CharacterRant , but it got instadeleted for "insufficient karma" or something. As such, I decided to post it here instead.

Spoiler Warning: heavy spoilers for Sailor Moon, Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica and Heartcatch Precure! and light spoilers for other magical girl shows

Let me tell you the story of a magical girl who has it rough. First, all her best friends and loved ones are dead. Second, she's now fully aware that, despite all her powers and best efforts, the universe is vast and cruel, full of threats ready to kill her. Most of those threats are other magical girls, in fact, and she will have to kill more than a few if she wants to make it out alive. To top it all, she soon learns, thanks to a time traveller, that this massive catastrophe that she's living through will only get worse, so much worse: it's practically eternal, and she will be locked in an endless cycle of renewal and destruction, where the future of all things hinges on her being able to never, ever give up. The prospect puts an immense toll on her, so much that she considers destroying the universe herself just so it can all stop. That's the story of the final arc of the Sailor Moon manga, titled "Stars".

Hey wait a minute, doesn't that sound a lot like Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica? Wasn't Sailor Moon a silly franchise where nothing too serious ever happened?

Well (see page 36 as numbered in the viewer), no (see page 10 as numbered in the viewer). The manga at large is preoccupied with cycles, and specifically with the way periods of hope follow periods of destruction and viceversa, featuring plenty of deaths and even two instances of suicide (both from the protagonist, no less!). The 90s anime doesn't reach that same mythological scope and direness, but it's still very much a show about a young girl's often painful growth from a selfish crybaby to someone willing to sacrifice herself to save everyone and everything, and the first and last seasons famously featured a very distressed Tsukino Usagi amidst plenty of important character deaths. The live-action adaptation I'm not very familiar with, but my understanding is that it's primarily focused on breaking away from the past and becoming someone who can be a genuine friend to other people instead of succumbing to one's most (very literally) destructive impulses.

Sailor Moon is by far the most well-known magical girl work in terms of global outrreach, so popular and important that it set a new standard for magical girl works by heavily infusing them with tokusatsu elements and creating the "magical warrior" subgenre (essentially a new flavour of superheroine), which surpassed the original "cute witch" (majokko) style shows in terms of influence. Every magical warrior work that came afterwards owes something to it, especially those like Wedding Peach or Pretty Cure. It had tension and drama to spare, but if you heard the average English-speaking otaku on this side of the world, you'd think it was K-On with extra steps.

Is the English-speaking Western public at large wrong about the most famous magical girl there is? I'd say it is. Can it be argued that it's just as misinformed about other magical girls? Very, I'd say, either out of prejudice or just ignorance, and this includes the pre-Sailor Moon shows. The truth is dark topics and arcs have been present in magical girl works pretty much since the genre's start in the 60s. Death? Magical girls have been there many times. Trauma? Also done. Coming-of-age? That's the magical girl bread-and-butter. Deceitful mascots? Magical girls already did that, too. Other magical girls as rivals or even deadly enemies? Also done! Existential dread? Yeah, been there, done that. Some of the most prominent examples before Madoka's creation, aside from Sailor Moon, include works like Toei's 1973 adaptation of Cutie HoneyMarvelous MelmoLittle Witch Megu-chanMagical Princess Minky MomoNurse Angel Ririka SOSPhantom Thief JeannePrincess Tutu, and Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha. Even shows aimed at pre-schoolers, like Ojamajo Doremi or Pretty Cure, have touched all these topics in some way. The year before Madoka, that latter franchise saw the release of Heartcatch Precure, an installment that contained a whole arc about an older ex-magical girl trying to move past the murder of her mascot, and the very first Pretty Cure starred Misumi Nagisa, who legitimately hated being forced into the magical girl life and was very vocal about the fact she did it out of obligation.

Anyone who knows magical warrior shows knows that danger and difficult times eventually rear their ugly heads, and that it's not a matter of whether the stories and episodes that shock or provoke tears will come, but of when they will (midseason, usually). Insofar as it threads on dark topics, Madoka is no different from most magical girl shows that came before. It opens on a post-apocalyptic dream sequence, but know what else does? The third arc of Sailor Moon, both the manga (see page 10 as numbered in the page viewer) and animeHeartcatch Precure, meanwhile, opens with its own downer in the defeat of Cure Moonlight. The first episode of Little Witch Megu-chan doesn't open on anything so serious, but it still has the protagonist getting nearly killed by her arch-rival; as in, she gets zapped with magic over and over, lies in bed all discolored and her foster family is genuinely worried she might die levels of "nearly killed". Magical girls have been to all the usual dark places already. A magical girl show having dark elements isn't new at all, and Urobuchi Gen himself said in the 19th 2010 issue of the Otona Anime magazine that he checked other warrior-style works before writing for Madoka and concluded "those girls had it rough".

Madoka's darkness was, indeed, not new, and by author admission... not new per se, anyway, because there is one thing that actually differentiates Madoka from most other magical girl shows: it's incredibly serious and somber all the way through. Come now, say, what's your favourite funny moment, or the biggest laugh you had. And I mean something meant to cause laughs.

See?

It's not like Madoka is completely bereft of levity. There's things like the perpetually single and bitter homeroom teacher or the Holy Quintet scene at the start of Rebellion, but these moments are few and far inbetween. The stereotype of the fluffy magical girl show does have a kernel of truth to it: most of the time, they are very silly by design. They're aimed at younger audiences and therefore indulge in laughs a lot of the time. Whenever they turn grave and serious, the tone changes completely, and they will fittingly go whole stretches without so much as a pun. Essentially, Madoka takes the heightened tension and distress that's normally left for important episodes and applies it over a whole extremely compact cour. To a veteran of the genre, the surprise wasn't that Mami died, but that she died so early and with almost no light-hearted moments or comedy in the preceding episodes. That is what's unique about it compared to most magical girl works before, not that it dared to be dark, but that it had an ominous tone from the start and stayed that way, and if you were caught off-guard simply because of the peppy and bittersweet opening song... well, that dream sequence had already warned you.

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u/Roritwo — 14 hours ago
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Percentage of Marinette's negative emotion that led directly to being akumatized into Heartfixer

I know I already did "on a scale of 1-10" of Marinette's akumatization into Heartfixer in the titular episode, and they the answer is actually 10, but this time, it's different. So this time: it's on a percentage rating/ranking from 0%-100%, of how powerful that negative emotion has grown that negative emotion was powerful enough for the new holder of the Butterfly Miraculous to control her heart, but not her mind, thoughts, feelings, and other stuff until Adrien showed up and saved her through words and love that led to her breaking free from the new Butterfly Miraculous holder's spell, since Adrien finally understood the whole truth thanks to Prem as Adrien sees the akumatized versions of Ray and his gang when they have become the Couplewreckers just to steal everyone's appearance to cause chaos, and behave in the worst manner possible to upset Adrien and Make Marinete look like a bad girlfriend, including Alya and Nino?

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u/Stock_Rise5855 — 16 hours ago

The Ribbon Hero. A new animated film based on Osamu Tezuka’s classic and beloved 1950 shójo manga “Ribbon no Kishi” “The Princess Knight” is set to premiere on Netflix this August 🌹🗡️✨

2026 is the year for Magical Knights! 🤺✨

u/Storm_BloomX — 1 day ago

⭐"New Magical Me" by Prinnstar, Chunney & Greenie_Olivelie⭐

Have you read the Magical Girl Webcomic/Webtoon New Magical Me?

If so, what's your review?

u/IllogicalDreamer72 — 1 day ago
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I don't think madoka is complex multiversal nor even universal. Please present counter points.

I think as the law of cycle, she is omnipresence to a multiversal/universal level across time but I don't think her AP changed from when she on shooting Kriemhild Gretchen(a future version of her.)

Kriemhild Gretchen is larger than earth so she is at least planetary. I'm pretty sure the universe/multiverse restructured because she time traveled to and changed events at every point in time simultaneously.

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u/Otherwise_Prior3981 — 2 days ago
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Multiverse of Caroline's Favorite Heroines - Fearless, Fierce AND Fabulous.

So, I decided to exercise my use of free will and create this poster/image/card/board or whatever, made of all my favorite characters across multiple series I have watched.

I call this collection: Multiverse of Caroline's Favorite Heroines - Fearless, Fierce AND Fabulous.

(Aisha, Stella and Raf are my OG's)

u/her_royal_goddess — 2 days ago

I love that orange is the only girl that just has a little doll really shows how mentally young she is compared to the rest of the team

Rainbow Bubblegem you can find it on YouTube

u/Busy-Maximum402 — 1 day ago

Magical Girl Kisses 💋 Which of them has the best Kissing Attacks? 😘

Magical Girls who use Kisses as Attacks:

  1. Sailor Venus - Venus Love and Beauty Shock
  2. Cure Ace - Ace Shot
  3. Cure Lovely - Lovely Powerful Kiss
  4. Cure Butterfly - Butterfly Kiss
  5. Cure Kiss - Kiss Shock

Extra Mention:

Tropical-Rouge! Pretty Cure

u/IllogicalDreamer72 — 3 days ago

The Knights. From Evil Queens to magical princesses. Now let’s go to the should’ve been relevant and essential trope yet one of the least use in the genre: Knight and their armory ⚔️🛡️🤺✨

For a genre that uses fairy tales themes and eventually become combat reliant. The most suitable role is rarely can be found.

Knights are frontliners in the battlefield which should been the perfect opportunity to integrate them more the moment the genre shifted towards combat and become the most popular sub category.

Although we got few like Magic Knights who truly fully utilize its potential to Wedding Peach with their knight armor inspired 1st magical girl transformation and Encantadia who smartly incorporated the concept with their own individual elements yet not enough to actually make a dent and impact in the genre.

Why do you think are the reasons? Is the concept of having full geared armor and taking the role of a Knight is restrictive in terms of ideas and creativity? Is European fashion period like Victorian and French rococo inspired puffy lolita dresses magical girls is the way to go? Even small time and up to coming magical girl creators rarely uses them as well.

Let’s discuss ✨

u/Storm_BloomX — 2 days ago

Which Magical Girl Anime Eye Design so you like most? Drop Pictures in the comments if possible.

The Images are from Wedding Peach, The Magical Girl and the Evil Lieutenant used to be Arch Enemies, Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne, Sailor Moon (90s) and Cutie Honey Flash.

u/Iwannaendme2001 — 4 days ago

Anybody else can think that these girls are perfect contenders for getting action figures despite us not seeing it yet?

It kind of feels like they were unintentionally made to be action figures and they were just never done and I’m not counting their dolls. I mean, like small action figures I really think it was a missed opportunity.

I think that maybe they could even have an accessory that you can take their bottom halves off and replace it with their mermaid tail because they can also turn into mermaids when in magical form, but this would mean that they would have to make free figures for each girl so honestly,

I can kind of see why they didn’t do that but I kind of wish they did I think their base human form those figures could just come with the rainbow catchers as an accessory and so you don’t confuse who’s is who’s they have a little sticker showing the bubblegem inside corresponding to which princess it is for for the mermaid forms,

they can have their secret guardians as an accessory and obviously the accessories for their magical forms would be an extra lower half for their magical form when in mermaid form and of course they’re magic weapons.

I know I probably just said a lot and no one’s gonna read this, but I thought I would just share my thoughts

(the show is rainbow bubblegem because I know someone is going to ask I would like to note that I did space out the words in hopes of someone being more likely to read this)

u/Busy-Maximum402 — 3 days ago
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I made peach-jasmine cheesecake entremets with lychee-yuzu gelée

These cheesecake bar entremets are inspired by Sailor Moon’s Silver Millennium ✨🌙. They’re peach-jasmine cheesecake mousse with lychee-yuzu gelée, salty almond-peach crunch, vanilla cheesecake frosting, kohakutou candy crystals, and crescent moon cookies.

Recipe/process: https://www.theinspired.network/blog-layer-by-layer/moon-prism-cheesecake-bars

u/ReturnOfThaQueen — 7 days ago