r/Mahjong

Last night we had a player call ron, and reveal 9 gates. Absolutely crazy. I glanced at their discard pool since based on their discards I thought they were going for 13 orphans.

...when I noticed a 4 pin in their discards, putting them in furiten.

What would everyone think would be a suitable chombo for this situation?

I've played in jansous with this particular player, and when they called ron while furiten, the jansou ruled that they were out that hand. They could only draw and discard, and they could no longer win that hand.

The player suggested that they will continue to play the hand, but could only win by tsumo. But that's not a penalty, that's literally just the rules of the game with their furiten.

I’ve been playing both Riichi City and Mahjong Soul lately, and I’m curious which one people here prefer.
For some reason, I feel like I win more consistently in Riichi City. Even the tile draws seem to go my way more often, whereas in Mahjong Soul I’ve been stuck on a pretty brutal losing streak 😂
One thing I really love about Riichi City is the Han displays and the discard-hints. They make the hands feel much more satisfying. I really wish Mahjong Soul had something similar during the actual matches.
I know Mahjong Soul has the Ongoing event, where you can see the hit/interaction effects, but I’d honestly love to see something like that incorporated directly into regular matches as well.
Gameplay aside, which one do you prefer — Riichi City or Mahjong Soul? And what makes you prefer one over the other?

Hi there, i recently started playing mahjong at my local card shop and discovered its highly addictive.

Im currently playing American mahjong but I've been doing research on Chinese mahjong and discovered that I find Chinese mahjong to be easier to understand and possibly more affordable...

I recently bought a mahjong set from my local target and realized that the national league association card was not included; this led me down a rabbit hole, finding out tons of background information including the fact that the card has to be purchased from the official site. This led me to the problem of wanting to play American mahjong but unable to afford buying 4 cards evrey year.

For context, my local card shop recently started having mahjong Mondays.

They even hired someone to teach and provide material so we could play with no issues. However mahjong being addictive as it is, has definitely made me want to try playing more and more with my friends on days that were able to get toghther, that are sometimes not on mondays. Since we don't have access to national league cards it is hard to actually play. This led me to looking for alternatives. I eventually found Chinese mahjong and Japanese mahjong and Hong Kong mahjong. Out of the 3 Chinese mahjong seemed to be the easiest to make sense of. The only problem and why I am making this post, is the fact that no one person online has definitive rules or scoring hands for Chinese mahjong. I understand this is because in different regions? Areas? In China they have different rules and different ways of playing.

So im hoping to find someone that can help me find a video or site that can teach me a simple mahjong variant that doesnt require national league association cards to play. So that way me and my friends and any other friends I have that want to learn can easily jump in. If anyone can help it be much appreciated, so far ive found a variant where you only need 3 pung and a pair to win and you can use chow or chi as well to make a hand. Im not sure how to math out using kong but im sure it can be done. This simple way of not following a forced recipe like American mahjong is what im looking for. But im also looking for how to score hands that are made this way. Also just a small rant, I somewhat understand flowers but Im a bit confused because I know there extra points and if you draw them on first hand you put them face up and draw another to replace it. Do I need them? I know some mahjong run 136? And others 144 and American 152. Idk hopefully this is making sense. Also sorry for the typos and grammar, I was never good at it plus im half asleep. Thanks again

Hi! I'm from Japan, where riichi mahjong is popular, and I'm curious about the apps people use. What's one feature you wish your current mahjong app had, or one thing you'd improve? Which ruleset do you usually play?

For me, a post-game review that explains key decisions—like tile efficiency or when it would have been safer to fold—would be useful. I'd prefer that kind of feedback after the hand rather than as live advice during play.

I'm also developing a browser-based riichi mahjong game, so I'm asking from a developer's perspective. I'm not including a link or asking people to test it; I'd like to hear what features players value.

Disclosure: This post was translated and polished with AI assistance.

I'm currently playing Yakuza: Like a Dragon and have become hooked on playing Mahjong. I'm still learning but situations like these keep occurring and I don't understand why I can't call Tsumo or Riichi. I pulled the red dragon tile and thought that made the final pair I need to complete my hand. If anyone could help, that would be appreciated!

I'm just wondering what rule variant you guys would suggest for 2 player riichi? Mainly looking for a casual ruleset thay leans towards mimicing real riichi rules. Use case being teaching basic riichi rules to new players (not that im not a new player lol just trying to spread the good word) and just also for quick lil "in-between" games. My own research came up with just removing 2-8 sou tiles and no chi which i think is how 2-3 players is often played but for teaching someone its kinda awkward to explain why theres only 1 and 9 of this one set. How playable would 2 player riichi with the only rules modification being no chi?

Something that always bothered me with Zung Jung is the scoring table, the values are all over the place. Although I understand that Alan Kwan must have calculated all the correct probabilities to reach each value, still the values chosen perhaps could deviate a bit to be more "regular" and overall simpler.

Pattern	Name	Points
1.0	Trivial Patterns
1.1	All Sequences	1
1.2	Concealed Hand	1
1.3	No Terminals	1
2.0	One-Suit Patterns
2.1.1	Mixed One-Suit	8
2.1.2	Pure One-Suit	16
2.2	Nine Gates	100
3.0	Honor Tiles
3.1	Value Honor	2 per set
3.2.1	Small Three Dragons	8
3.2.2	Big Three Dragons	24
3.3.1	Small Three Winds	6
3.3.2	Big Three Winds	24
3.3.3	Small Four Winds	64
3.3.4	Big Four Winds	80
3.4	All Honors	64
4.0	Triplets and Kong
4.1	All Triplets	6
4.2.1	Two Concealed Triplets	1
4.2.2	Three Concealed Triplets	6
4.2.3	Four Concealed Triplets	24
4.3.1	One Kong	1
4.3.2	Two Kong	4
4.3.3	Three Kong	24
4.3.4	Four Kong	100
5.0	Identical Sets
5.1.1	Two Identical Sequences	2
5.1.2	Two Identical Sequences Twice	12
5.1.3	Three Identical Sequences	24
5.1.4	Four Identical Sequences	100
6.0	Similar Sets
6.1	Three Similar Sequences	8
6.2.1	Small Three Similar Triplets	6
6.2.2	Three Similar Triplets	24
7.0	Consecutive Sets
7.1	Nine-Tile Straight	8
7.2.1	Three Consecutive Triplets	20
7.2.2	Four Consecutive Triplets	40
8.0	Terminals
8.1.1	Mixed Lesser Terminals	8
8.1.2	Pure Lesser Terminals	10
8.1.3	Mixed Greater Terminals	20
8.1.4	Pure Greater Terminals	80
9.0	Incidental Bonuses
9.1.1	Final Draw	2
9.1.2	Final Discard	2
9.2	Win on Kong	2
9.3	Robbing a Kong	2
9.4.1	Blessing of Heaven	32
9.4.2	Blessing of Earth	32
10.0	Irregular Hands
10.1	Thirteen Terminals	32
10.2	Seven Pairs	6
11.0	Bonus Tiles (optional)
11.1.1	Improper Flower/Season	1 per 2 tiles
11.1.2	Proper Flower/Season	1 per tile
11.2.1	Four Flowers	2
11.2.2	Four Seasons	2

Maximum Limit of a compound hand is now 64 points. With the exception of the 80 and 100 point Listed Limit Hand.

If you use a Minimum Requirement point value, it can now be simply 1 point (or more, up to you).

For Discarder pays for big hands, the threshold is now 5 points. So up to 5 points everybody pays and above that the discarder is responsible to make up the difference. Since the numbers are smaller, payout should be much easier to calculate.

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How I came up with those numbers: To arrive at the "new" values I basically divided everything by 5 and then rounded the numbers to the nearest in the following list: **1, 2, [3], 4; 6, 8, 10, 12; 16, 20, 24; 32, 40, [48]; 64, 80 and 100 (~96)**. Now the possible pattern values increases in more predicable steps (+1, +2 after 4, +4 after 12, +8 after 24, +16 after 48). Note that 3 and 48 are not used, and I decided to round 96 to a nice big 100, since this is the max pattern value in the game.

Overall there is very little rounding happening:

• Three Similar Sequences: 7 to 8 (+1)
• Four Concealed Triplets: 25 to 24 (-1)
• Big Three Dragons: 26 to 24 (-2)

PS: If you really, really want, you could now make Seven Pairs be worth 7 points as is traditional in a few styles of Mahjong. It will break the "symmetry", but Seven Pairs is already a break in hand structure anyway...

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