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Is Mr. Mxyzptlk a equal to anos in terms of power?

A 5th-dimensional imp who can warp reality on a universal and conceptual scale, and is even aware of the comic book page he's on. His reality-warping is a direct counterpart to Anos's destruction

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u/Fancy_Highway_9412 — 21 hours ago

Best abilities in the verse IMO

This list will consits of abilites that has no outside help from other abilities.

  1. Agido.

  2. Gilieriam Naviem.

  3. Magic eyes of chaotic destruction.

  4. Magic eyes of eternal darkness.

  5. Davuel.

  6. Venuzdonoa.

  7. Magic eyes of fiery heart.

Here is my reason for some of the placement:
- Agido is better than GN because GN need 7 steps and Anos need to use both Damd Ivu and Damd Arga for it to be equal to Agido so it actually need more than 7 steps for it to reach the same abyss as Agido if it is used alone. It is also the only magic that is outside of orders.

- GN has the potential to surpass Agido but it often require a lot of time and steps.

- MECOD is equal to Darkness eyes in term of power because Anos' chaos and Zinnia's darkness clash equally with each other but Chaotic eyes is more versatile so i rate it slightly higher. It can disrupt logic/law/principle, turn contradiction into a forced win and magical power etc.

- Darkness eyes only function is to pulls things/people into darkness.

- Davuel is better than Venuzdonoa because it is shown with no downside while it can do a lot more things.

- Venuzdonoa is stronger in term of destruction but it is weaker in the "disruption" department and has a lot of downside for both Anos and sasha
+ For both: It can be negated by using Mauve eyes or the stronger versions of it and can be tampered with through other divine power like Graham's scythe and potentially Parrington's red threads. It is also weaker when the user is not holding it. It consume a lot of magic power.
+ For Anos: He has to summon the demon king castle and the time limit is 5 minutes.
+ For Sasha: She has to wait 3 minutes and can even use it less than that.

- The magic eyes of fiery heart ain't all that TBH, it is good sure but it require a lot of prep time. The only reason Amur was that strong was because he had 17000 ish years to accumilate power and if you bring it fresh into a battle with cool headed people like Zinnia or Anos then it is basically useless. The power you get from hatred also scale to how strong the person you are taking it from.

If you have any disagreement or any abilities that you will add/replace, let me know.

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u/Slight-Cut3148 — 1 day ago
▲ 46 r/MaouGakuinScaling+1 crossposts

The things i do not understand about Dagdala.

Dagdala is a spell where the caster draws a magic circle on the enemy's shadow and steps on it, striking the enemy directly from the inside, damage the reciever's source with a shockwave. However, neither the enemy nor the caster can be directly injured within the spell's range, except when their shadow is damaged.

Noah's body does not have a shadow, mentioned by Anos in chap 15 Vol 11. Anos also said since "Noah" does not have a shadow. he gained a perk of becoming inmune to damage and knockback only during the duration when he steps on someone else shadow.

The part i do not understand is why did Anos mentioned this ? By definition when the caster use Dagdala, everything in the radius become inmuteable and they can only damage each others through their shadow. By definition, "Noah" should be invincible even when he does not step on someone's shadow because he has no shadow in the first place and they do not have any medium like shadow to hurt him, but he still takes damage and knockback when he does not step on someone's shadow.

This is obvious when Anos mentioned how "Noah" did not took any knockback while his foot is on top of Anos' shadow

"Despite catching the spell from practically point-blank range, he didn't even flinch. And that's despite it being much more powerful than before, thanks to our "Rayon.""

And when Anos' shadow is no longer being step on by "Noah" then he took full knockback like normal

"And just as my shadow retreated from his foot, the Usurper of the Two Laws swung Rayon around in his right hand and grabbed the fiery ball of destruction with both hands. The ball's force pushed him back, uprooting the earth in the process."

In the battle against Gigi, Anos removed his shadow with the help of Venuzdonoa and even compare this situation with how "Noah" used Dagdala.

"The Usurper of the Two Laws, controlled by Ronclus, had no shadow. In this case, the caster's body would only be immune to damage when they stepped on an enemy's shadow.

But it seems that even the Usurper of the Two Laws did not demonstrate the erasure of shadow during the Dagdala, as I just did with the help of the Law Breaker."

Am i misunderstanding or is having no shadow actually a weakness for this spell ? Because Anos worded it like while others are forcefully become invincible by this spell rule. "Noah" by having no shadow make it so he has to actively step on someone else shadow to get this effect, can someone clear this up for me ?

Also how tf did Anos come to the conclusion that someone who has no shadow can erase their own shadow ? Moreover, why does Noah deem having no shadow when anytime his spell is used it is always refer to as "the shadow of the Two law Usurper" ?

u/Slight-Cut3148 — 2 days ago

So is there any good Anos Voldigoad in this sub

I was asked before where Anos scales and I told the person he scales to 1A Outerversal Level and I said this because others told me. Now personally, I don't like basing my opinion of characters scaling based on what others say without actually seeing it for myself because 99% of the time, it is just wank. So this is what I'm asking:

  1. If there is any good Anos Voldigoad scaling in this sub, can you share the link?

  2. If you can scale Anos, can you do so for me with scans and evidence and not just word of mouth?

  3. If you say Anos Voldigoad and Misfit cosmology is not 1A, then can you show proof with scans and evidence?

I need to see this so that I won't be this ignorant when it comes to Anos scaling and be able to defend him better.

u/Multiversal_2211 — 2 days ago
▲ 38 r/MaouGakuinScaling+1 crossposts

Is Noah potentially stronger than Eos Anos

Well even though both are same character let's talk about their disadvantages and advantages.

Noah has his body which is free from every order that's give him a huge advantage.

Anos main advantage is gilerium naviem.But couldn't noah also create a spell like gilerium naviem.Its a deepening spell which increases your power and make you closer to abyss with every step.If noah can potentially use gilerium naviem or something like this then that should make him stronger than anos or a stronger anos.

Just emperor told it two times that anos has became weaker.And anos also admitted it himself that his magical power has waned compared to his previous life and chaos became harder to control.I think noah can use chaos,davuel and deepening better than anos since he has way more experience with this type of magic.

That should make noah potentially the strongest charector ( even though anos and noah are same)

Correct me if I am wrong.

u/Silly_Connection3567 — 5 days ago

Wind of Freedom vs Star of Hope

Who would win in a fight b/w Noah & Duelniga? Pls explain with scans, no glazing, because I think it might go to stalemate or Noah/Duelniga Extreme Diff.

u/Devourer2005 — 6 days ago
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Can Tensura Adaptation Overcome NEP2/Layered Nothingness?

for Graham's context;

• Graham’s source is tied to nothingness/nonexistence. • interpret it as layered NEP2 or infinite layered nothingness. • The more he’s destroyed, the more abnormal his nothingness becomes. • He’s not just regenerating normally; his existence itself becomes difficult to define/interact with.

for Rimuru's context;

• Rimuru adapts through Ciel’s analysis. • Rimuru can gain resistances and counters over time. • Rimuru exists as a Digital Lifeform/information-particle being. • He has adapted to conceptual and existential attacks before

u/Rude-Scar-1978 — 13 days ago

Why there isn't any anos upgrade after vol11 in vs battle wiki and Vol 17 all fiction wiki

It's been many months the novel has ended.And nobody scaled final anos in all fiction.

Same goes for vs battle wiki.Anos is still upto vol 8

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u/Silly_Connection3567 — 8 days ago