My opponent added the vulcans in the final round, I added stormcallers with emp and range in the final round.
I like going 'no missiles' all game sometimes and on the final round hitting my opponent, who usually has no anti missile tech by then, with emp stormcallers - which unless they're well prepared or psychic( ;-) ) has a decent effect.
Any tips on facing this? When they make a massive line across the board, tech both ranges/shield and also emp armour? Struggling alot against it just had 3 different opponents in a row use some variation of this lol.
Around 1000mmr
I'm simply curious since supposedly Typhoons are going to be made a regular unit in the future, and that would leave Death Knell the only unit you can unlock through unit drop.
Who am I?
After hitting 2K+ MMR in Season 3, I lost the motivation to keep climbing just by spamming meta strategies. I almost quit the game entirely during Season 4. In Season 5, I decided to play R4-5 Abyss in every single match purely for fun. As a result, my MMR initially tanked to 1400, though I have since climbed back up to 1.9K.
To be clear, playing Abyss is not a troll strategy. A correctly built R4 Abyss in the right circumstances is incredibly strong. I have already defeated at least five of the top 30 players on the global leaderboard using Abyss—and yes, that includes beating their standard and aggro boards (not just R4 factories). I can say with full confidence that this guide represents the absolute best way to play this unit.
I don’t want Abyss to remain an obsolete unit that only exists to counter ground titans. I truly love this game and its community. However, I need to take a break from playing to focus on a very difficult upcoming exam for at least 3 years. I want this Abyss legacy to continue. Trust me, nothing beats the feeling of winning with Abyss—especially when your opponents get salty in the chat.
The Abyss is actually a WEAK titan by itself. Its DPS and HP simply aren't worth the 800-credit cost. The only reason the Abyss is good is Dark Companion tech (spawns Wraith). Because of this tech, you don’t have to build another chaff-clearing unit.
Because Abyss aggro is a hyperscaling-greedy comp, it is better to use it when you have 3000+ HP at round4. You are almost guaranteed to lose rounds 6/7 , break even at round 8, and completely out-scale any comp at round 9 and beyond.
Level 1 abyss is weak, level 2 is a very strong power spike, level 3+ is overlevel better to use gold for other things.
S-Tier (I use these 3 techs in 99.99% of my games):
C-Tier (I almost never used):
F-Tier (Bad/Traps):
5.Defalt aggro abyss layout
The Abyss is a short-range unit that excels in both aggro and defensive board states. Against a standard or defensive enemy, you want to place the Abyss as close to the enemy tower as possible. You should deploy Crawlers, Shield Wasps, and the Abyss together as a packaged formation next to the frontline. Depend on drop, you can use Emergency shield Vortex/ Fire hound/ EMP void eye instead of Crawler in the front.
Position tip
-don’t put any 100 cost unit in abyss position
-when start the game, start with a slightly backward aggro position. don’t put any unit in front 3 tile -> opponent will make wraith
-you need only 2 forward abyss on each tower. Only put backline abyss if opponent go super heavy on flank or heavy on anti-missile
-Backline 1 Crawler+ 1 Wasp + 1 steel ball(or phoenix) on each tower usually defends any unit-spell from the enemy.
8.Turn 1-3 (good early game, preserve health)
9.Turn 4/5 Abyss or Pivot
List of Abyss counter: Markman, Wasp, Farseer, Melter, Ionization Raiden, Linked sledge hammer
List of Wasp counter: Wraith, Wasp, Mustang
List of thing don’t counter Abyss: fang, phoenix, phantom ray, overlord, flying void eye, Quad-tech cost-reduction anti air Fortress from cost control commander.
1.Both of me and opponent pick improved wraith: Depend on drop
\-Wraith x Markman (if opponent wraith don't have ground tech)
\-Wraith x Melter(My Melter have spawn crawler tech instead of multimelter = Always win melter war)
2.Opponent make wraith or discount wraith: Depend on drop
\-Long range wasp carry with Arclight + tank unit from drop
\-Fire bagger x Overlord
\-Wraith x Markman/ Wraith x Melter
3.Under 2000 health at round 4: Depend on drop, try to counter opponent
4.Under 2500 health and Enemy already have 2+ air spell at round 4 (don't count missile strike): Depend on drop
\-I love to go Carry Fortress (shield/solid shot/elite): shield is good against spell, solid shod + elite win against melter
5.Under 3000 health at round 4, opponent already tech range mustang + strong item/level : Depend on drop
\-Carry Vulcan
\-Production WF
\-Aggro ball-wraith in all direction
\-Carry arclight if play elite com (range/ chargeshot/ elite/ shockwave)
I played about 1k hours of this banger game. This game was super fun when it launched with like 50% of current units available. Now we have so much more! But still, players are leaving the game and it makes me super sad. I left as well, but I'm still thinking about this game a whole lot. Watching tons of YT. I come to the conclusion that a lot of features are underwhelming:
- Buldings: They were announced as Neutral buildings integrated in the terrain in the very first interview. I thought about hills with a bunker inside, or a set gun, which you have to destroy or sth. Instead we get 3 square "buildings" that are just cannons which we immediately sell. This could have been so good, make maps feel different, position buildings into terraint etc, finally add a 3D-layer to the battlefield. Sad!
- 2v2 Maps and tournaments: I have a twin brother playing about 500h of this game and we played 2v2 and it was just like 1v1 but with lag. They said we add new maps and elo and tournaments. The new maps are basically the same, still you fight your opponent then whoever survives fights again. No units on my brothers side for me to place, no unit drops i can reinforce him with, no shared towers like a nexus. Still feels the same. Yes they added PvP mode but that is another feature I never use and dislike. Sad!
- Techs and Cards: Yes we got tons of new cards and techs. But in the end, you are stuck with the same minor decisions. The reason: You go with meta. If shockwave is op, you go for it. If fire is OP, you go for it. If subterrain is useless, you dont go for it. Simple math. Same about cards: Too many no brainsers. Examples are: 4th round supply enhancement, or EMP. While other cards are just plain useless and still in the game. Like cheap tech is never worth it. Also, you dont go dominion core, as you dont have a clue on how to use it unless you played hours in this weird dimensional portal mode. This is another lost cause to me as you can only truly have fun with this when you play 2h a day and regular mode gets boring.
- Fun patch: This is ofc the most discussed one, and it reduced positive ratings of above 90% to about 80% and most players leaving the game. They said: We will introduce crazy features and listen to community which ones we should keep. And they kept the worst. Sad!
What remains after all the new units, features, game modes? Basically still the same game, yet slightly worse due to unit drops. You are left with higher expectations to what it should deliver after so many years.
Hello everyone,
I recently got the game and started playing 1vs1 ranked. I am ~1100 MMR, but I noticed a distinct pattern in my games:
Every time both my opponent and I start with a "long range" unit comp, I lose horribly. It does not matter what I build, what I spec, or how I play, I always lose early rounds, enemy arcs and snipers get level while my units don't and I die round 6-7 with no chance whatsoever.
I feel like I tried everything:
- more chaff to buy time for my own DPS units
- more chaff clear to chew through his good units faster
- more carry to win the end of the round
- focussing on more unit deploys (buying 3 almost every round)
- focussing more on techs (both range or other)
- getting scorpions super early (as they are the default hard counter to long range, right?)
- trying a titan drop early
But nothing seems to work. I have decent success against everything else, and if I play fast/Aggro I will usually destroy my opponent early and snowball myself. But something about ranged engagements doesn't click in my brain. Any advice on how to navigate those boards? I'm talking 5-7 arcs + snipers round 2 with some chaff, maybe sledges or sabers, often spamming shields to counter abilities and my long range units.
Thank you in advance :)
Hey Commanders my Friend printed a Scorpion for me on my Birthday. -Hildegard 🤖
So had a day off work and a whole day to play one of my fav games. I now understand what a rooster meant now with the amount of games I have played.
I work a lot so don’t get much dedicated time to play this game. Today I have realised the stale state this game is in.
Every game was either compensator hounds, void eye stang, void eye flame tank. I say that out of the 20 games I have played 17 were these comps.
It’s just boring I understand y playing the game all day like rooster did and other streamers get bored.
I have played since it dropped on early access and have had a love hate relationship through all the bad decisions the devs made. I am around 1800 atm and think I will stop there.
Also the game feels so messy atm and the amount of units that can be deployed seems way too much.
Any way Rant over anyone else feel like this, aimed at the people who play this game a lot.
Shout out to Sparty the only guy that seemed he was playing his own thing. Ur a legend
Got a Red Card emote, saw a skin at twitch. What did u got? Dont know how long it works.
Code reveal was at twitch "Bonjwa"
Coop Stream with "Salzwerk"
Maybe try bonjwerk if big B doesnt work
Edit: they just said that the code can bei redeemed 68000 times. So maybe forever.
Sitting at 1300+ MMR
Pretty solid first 6-7 rounds, got strong board and economy.
But after that the entire board is usually a total fire everywhere, which destroys not just chaff, but medium units also. Titans, giants and air is OK, but once chaff is all fast cleared, they do not live long.
There is no real option to build more chaff, as it's wiped out instantly. Shields cannot stand for long, and honestly I'm not sure how to counter this.
Should I just sell all small units? What you do at this stage?
I’m semi new to the game I started playing at the end of season 6 with 607MMR being my highest then. I am now sitting at 700MMR for season 7 and was wondering how I rank relative to others. Am I doing average for a new player? (I’m also in the North American servers)
800-1200MMR
I've noticed that when I sell a few units in a match, I often can get steamrolled. Not because I am selling the wrong units, but because my OP doesn't sell any units at all. A poorly placed saber is still another unit my units have to get though. Or they got a 2nd set of chaff clear units on a unit drop, they don't need more chaff clear, but now they have 4x packs of hounds basically acting as chaff. I've found a few games that my OP never sells anything and just goes for max units on the field, it makes there board pretty tough/full after i have sold off 2-4 units already that were just feeding XP, of course putting me 2-4 deployments behind them in just a few rounds, yeah I've got better units with higher levels, but I can't clear there massive board now. Even though I made good moves and got better units.
Curious how to fix this? I know it's a tricky balance and very situational.
Have they done something to raidens they seem like there range and fire rate seem terrible now I haven’t used them for a while so might have missed something.
Ok, i love the game, I even love the buildings, brawl is a hot mess, i know hot take... anyways...
What about a new mode where each rnd EVERYTHING is removed! Money resets, damage to HP doesn't. Also, removed unit drop per turn limit. Tech upgrades would remain purchased. One unlock per turn.
My guess is that it would cause people to deploy some crazy custom builds. Maybe some crazyed army load outs would be found, idk. But it would be something different.
Share if u think might be neat or add changes or suggestions.
For context (without doxxing myself), I'm top 200 world and have climbed ~300 MMR recently to reach that point.
The risk of playing someone 100 MMR lower than you is far greater than the couple minutes queue penalty from dodging. RNG has a massive effect on the outcome of matches so even a moderate skill gap frequently can't make up for it. If you lose ~25 MMR because of shitty RNG, you have to grind several 10+ minute matches just to break even. It’s a terrible time investment.
I've beaten players 200+ MMR above me because they had to pick some trash like tarantula start. I've also lost to lower rated players because of the same shitty starting balance and unlucky unit/spell drops.
While you will "eventually" reach your "true rank", who the fuck wants to play 3 games to recover from 1 loss?