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horrible move-in

i got all my stuff together into my blue bin, worried about my roommate cus i haven’t gotten a response in the 2 months i’ve been trying to contact them. i show up to the room and their shit is EVERYWHERE. i mean its nowhere near half empty. got a bed clear but no desk, kitchen, even WAREDROBE space for me. smelled terrible. looked around further and found alcohol bottles, empty ones scattered and an entire recycling bin full. they’re 20.

anyway so i’m upset

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u/skyteir — 23 hours ago
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i love this place already

i was saying goodbye to my mom as it’s my first year. i get out of the car and there is a skunk standing right in front of the bookstore. it was pretty late at night so a bit hard to see. i get back in the car. i warn two boys about the skunk and one of them jumps when they see it.

i go to my dorm after…another skunk right near the card scanner 😭

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u/redecoratelover — 1 day ago
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So nervous

I feel like reality is setting in and i’m so nervous for classes to start, i graduated from community college this spring and am transferring to NAU online so i’m like a junior. But i’m so nervous in my mind i feel like the classes are going to be very hard, i feel like community college was pretty easy. Maybe it’s all in my hard or are classes in University actually more difficult? I’m majoring in Elementary Education so i’m only taking classes related to education, any advice or tips?

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u/Lost_Strawberry_5276 — 22 hours ago
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Long Shot Request: Photos from NAU's 2003 Hispanic Convocation Ceremony

My husband played in the mariachi band that performed at NAU's 2003 Hispanic Convocation Ceremony, but he has no photographs of the event. In fact, he has no photographs whatsoever of his time in the mariachi band and would really like one as a memento. This is the only performance he can think of that may have been documented. I've already checked the NAU and Lumberjack archives. If no one here can help, perhaps there is a relevant Facebook group that someone could point me toward? TIA!

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u/_magpie_ — 2 days ago
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Sorry another AXES question...

So I see that I have digital items. And I have some physical items that have a note stating to wait for an email or something. But there is one digital textbook for some reason which seems to not been added, and it expects me to pay...I thought this was supposed to cover everything? Is there a limit on this or something? I really don't want to have to pay for this as well...

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u/Fearless-Lemon6103 — 1 day ago
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Allen Hall Triple

I went to NAU and had a dorm room in Allen Hall. I selected a triple and to my surprise, it was one of the biggest dorm rooms I’ve ever seen! We only had one other room next to us, and the other room was the communal lounge on the second floor.

Can anyone confirm why this triple was significantly bigger if you had this room? For reference, we all had our own beds and they were lifted up for our desk and drawers. We all had our own closets, sink + vanity, and a large shelf for our fridge and microwave.

People told me it was a room for to address accessibility needs… but that was never confirmed.

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u/Appropriate_Lime7376 — 2 days ago
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Extremely paranoid worried Transferring Junior

I'm transferring in literally 1 day, i keep crying and panicking over everything and trying to make sure i have everything and where to get groceries. I am not doing a meal plan and will have a sams club membership as well. Willing to go in groups for sams club btw. Split the payment yad yada. Anyways

I have some questions,

  1. Best groceries to buy for cheap

I have a strict 200$ a month, maybe a little over. To buy things for food only. Hygiene and stuff is different.

What's the best place for groceries? We are cooking in the dorm. So we don't become unhealthy.

  1. Best place to buy anything i guess

Im just concerned with money, i am finding a job so dont tell me that lol, but yeah.

  1. Where did all of the naus like "recycling furniture" for dorm move out go?

That i would have wanted to go through lol.

  1. Just any recommendations you have for anything in Flagstaff

I come from a town with nothing to do so Flagstaff seems super exciting.

Thanks guys

Lmk if you want to be friends!

(I'm into fandom things and i consider myself emo)

I also draw and im going into art education for art teaching

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u/One-Day3616 — 3 days ago
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Is financial aid already applied?

Hi, its my first year here as a transfer student (junior) i graduated from community college in may and for most of my time in community college i got a refund and didnt have to pay anything, i was kind of expecting the same for NAU but i know it is a lot more expensive and im wondering if the financial aid was already applied for everyone by today? its saying i owe $1300 and i dont have a job right now, im a stay at home mom to two toddlers and pregnant so i was really hoping i wouldn’t have to get a loan. But if its saying i owe 1300 is that a for sure thing so i can start planning or is financial aid still being distributed even though its already monday the 17, If i drop a class and only take 4 will that money i owe just dissapear and i wont have to pay? Im stressing there’s zero way to talk to anyone from financial aid and im 8 hours away from flagstaff so i cant just go in person, thank you please any advice is helpful

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u/Lost_Strawberry_5276 — 3 days ago
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Unable to reach Financial Aid Office

Has anyone been able to get their phone call through to the financial aid office or sdas??? I’ve been trying for the past week but it always says there’s callers ahead but I’ve waited on the phone for a longgg time. Any other phone number I can call?

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u/Maleficent_Ideal7177 — 3 days ago
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Financial Aid amount help

im a senior this upcoming 2026-2027 school year and i’ve gotten my tuition refunds to be ~$4,000 every year before this one, and on my refund history it says that ill be receiving $839 this year. Is this a mistake or has tuition gone up this year? is there anything i can do?

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u/Worried_Usual_3627 — 3 days ago
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Unable to print move in appt confirmation page

Hello, I move in tomorrow and I’m trying to print the move-in page but it’s not working for me? Every time I try pressing the “print this page” button it does nothing. Is there a way to fix this right now or would I need to contact someone tomorrow?? If I’m unable to print the page, would I need to reschedule my move-in date? :(

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u/QuietRiot0 — 3 days ago
▲ 7 r/NAU

Ebikes and escooters

Has anyone seen the community living policy update? We cannot store, charge, or operate a electric mobility device in the community living areas.

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u/SomewhereExpensive36 — 4 days ago
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Will I get dropped if my financial aid hasn’t disbursed yet?

I’m a transfer student so this is all new. Payment deadline is today (8/17), but my financial aid says it won’t disburse until 10 days before my first class (8/31). Will I get dropped from my classes if my balance isn’t paid by today, even though I have financial aid coming? Has anyone dealt with this?

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u/Hungry-Indication134 — 3 days ago
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Moving questions

So i’ll be going into my junior year but it’s my first time living off campus. I’ll be living in the standard with a private bathroom. Please advise me on what I should get.

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u/TheRealMGJMO — 4 days ago
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Suites

So i signed for the suites and got the year long lease but my roommate didnt shell be moving in may, does anyone know what happens will i have the room to myself or will they assign me a new roommate?

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u/tsukiinni — 4 days ago
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Scared incoming freshman

I'm starting NAU this upcoming semester (literally I move in on Tuesday) and until recently I've been really excited. Lately I've been more nervous than excited and was just hoping to get some of that excitement back. I've heard some really good things about NAU from a friend who's the year older than me and is already up there but I was looking at the rate my professor and the first reviews are all really negative so now I'm even more scared. I guess I'm just trying to get an accurate feel on what life is going to be like up there for me. If it helps I'm in the honors college and dorm but in a triple and trying to major in psychology.

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u/PlaneOccasion1923 — 5 days ago
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When do meal plans start?

Though I am a good cook I hate cooking in a dorm. I just want to eat already made meals again...I know early move in starts tomorrow, if services start tomorrow does that mean food as well?

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u/Fearless-Lemon6103 — 4 days ago
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WARNING FRESHMEN HOPE CHURCH MVMT CULT

ASU HOPE CULT ARTICLE

https://www.statepress.com/article/2016/12/spcampus-asu-hope-christian-church-religious-cult-controversy-2-history

Hello everyone. I will be sharing my experiences with the Hope Church Movement in hopes of giving others a chance to make an informed decision about this “church.” Special warning to freshmen, sorority and fraternity members, and athletes—you will be the people targeted.

I will break this up into five weeks in hopes of reaching as many freshmen as possible. Over the next four weeks, Hope will be going after freshmen hard. One reason is that a lot of their church left last year for Grace Community Church—so much so that they even showed up at a Grace event. There’s also the fact that their staff is getting older, so they need a new generation of staff members. The reason they target freshmen is because they know college is a scary experience for most freshmen, and most people have a deep desire to belong. This will all lead up to their big event, Survivor Weekend, where you’ll get to know other freshmen over a weekend of competition, and they will use this to hook you.

Once a person is at Hope long enough, it becomes extremely hard to leave because of the use of manipulation tactics, isolation, etc. I will be discussing structure, their theology, how to debate them (whether Mormon, Catholic, Protestant, atheist, etc.), relationships, manipulation tactics, and the superstar “not a pastor,” Mr. Smith. I intend to give you as much detail as possible. If you just want to understand the basics, I’ve linked a great article that I encourage everyone to read. Additionally, Hope is a direct descendant of the Fort Lauderdale Five “heavy shepherding” movement. There are plenty of videos on the control and dangers of the Shepherding Movement.

With that, we will begin with Hope’s history and structure. I hope this helps someone. Let us begin our deep dive into the dark hive mind that is the Hope “Church” Movement.

Dark Past

Let us go back in time to see the foundations on which tyrants, egos, pride, and arrogance were built. It’s a mistake to look at this zombie herd through the lens of good and evil, and not through structures and incentives. The structure of the organization determines the goals; the goals influence the incentives; and the incentives influence the behavior. This behavior traces its lineage all the way back to a group called the Fort Lauderdale Five: Bob Mumford, Derek Prince, Charles Simpson, Don Basham, and Ern Baxter. They are responsible for creating the Shepherding Movement (or “heavy shepherding”), which has influenced doctrines such as the one from our friend and influential figure at Hope, John “Blue Socks” Bevere, called unconditional submission: “If your pastor tells you to wear blue socks with purple pants and a pink shirt up on the choir, if that’s what he wants, that’s what we’re gonna wear—and we’re gonna do it with a happy attitude,” butchering Hebrews 13:17.

Core Teachings and Structure

The movement taught that every believer needed a personal “shepherd” for spiritual covering, protection, and maturity. Major emphases included:

• Submission and authority — Believers were to submit to designated shepherds in a clear chain of command.

• Covenant relationships — Formal or semi-formal commitments of loyalty and accountability.

• Spiritual covering — The idea that being under a human shepherd provided divine protection; being outside it left one vulnerable.

• Discipleship — Intense personal oversight that extended into practical life decisions.

Derek Prince withdrew around 1983, later stating they had fallen into “the Galatian error: having begun in the Spirit, we quickly degenerated into the flesh.”

Bob Mumford issued a formal public repentance statement in November 1989, acknowledging “unhealthy submission resulting in perverse and unbiblical obedience to human leaders.” He admitted families had been damaged and that he had ignored earlier warnings (including from Jack Hayford).

These groups also decided who you would marry, what job you’d take, etc. The original movement ended, but its ideas did not disappear completely. Elements of heavy discipleship, spiritual covering, hierarchical accountability, and intense cell/house-church structures continued in various independent charismatic, apostolic, and campus-oriented groups.

Notable connections include Maranatha Campus Ministries, which is where Hope Church originated. Their current leader, Mr. Smith, was sent out to ASU from Faith Christian Church and, for whatever reason, decided to split from his shepherds. This is really confusing for the simple fact that Hope preaches that if you have a word from God but it contradicts what your shepherds say, you’re wrong—which they used to gaslight people many times regarding who they’re going to date, what job to pick, what house you should buy, even what trips to take. They literally try to control your whole life.

It’s confusing because Mr. Smith, Hope’s leader, broke away from his shepherds to start Hope. And in a removed statement of faith (number 10), Hope states that the church is the final authority in interpretation of the Bible. So why did Pastor Brian disobey his leaders to start Hope if his leaders disagreed? The summary of their beliefs is that they have the authority by God to decide your life as long as it’s not sin.

The BITE model is a great representation of Hope’s manipulation tactics.

  1. Behavior Control

Regulates a person’s physical reality and actions:

• Dictates where, how, and with whom they live, associate, or isolate

(They have Hope houses where you live with a staff member.)

• Controls clothing, hairstyle, diet, sleep, and schedule

(Make you commit time to go on campus, tribe nights, recruiting events, and other time commitments. Staff is even worse—they only hang out with staff or members and work 60+ hours a week while also fundraising their own support.)

• Restricts leisure, entertainment, and outside activities

(Keep you busy with events and recruiting.)

• Imposes rigid rules, rewards, and punishments

(The higher up you climb in the social hierarchy, the more benefits you get—better wife/husband prospects, more power, more status in the church—but you also have to submit deeper. Pause. If you obey them and don’t question their requests, they reward you with status and power. If you refuse or cause problems, they cut you off, isolate you (“Don’t associate with this guy—he’s causing division”), use shunning, etc.)

• Controls sexuality and relationships

(They regulate dating heavily. Staff literally signs a contract stating they will only date other staff. There are arranged marriages. If you’re not on staff, they still want control, because making you delay dating keeps you at the church and dedicated more time to recruiting. They will shun you if you don’t listen.)

• Demands major time commitment to the group

(Recruiting events, tribe nights, etc.)

• Encourages dependence and obedience; may include financial exploitation

(With staff, the money they raise goes to Hope and is distributed by Hope—possibly to prevent a Brian Smith situation where someone breaks off from their shepherds to start their own church because they’re an attention whre .)

  1. Information Control

Limits and manipulates what a person can know:

• Deception (withholding, distorting, or lying about information)

(They won’t be honest about the cult allegations and tell you what actually happens. They’ll say it was just three people who couldn’t handle conflict.)

• Restricts access to outside media, books, internet, critics, or former members

(Obvious… staff will attack this post and say it’s not true. It’s all true.)

• Compartmentalizes information (need-to-know hierarchy)

(The higher up on staff you go, the more you learn about punishments/rewards for compliance, arranging dating, shunning, etc.)

• Encourages spying and reporting on others

(Go read the 114-page complaint. Yes, they spy on you. If you snitch on someone for doing something not shepherd-approved = status 🤑***.***)

• Uses propaganda, confessions, and information overload

(Every attack on Hope is “demonic,” not because they’re doing something wrong. If you confess anything to Hope, they talk about it with other staff.)

• Frames outsiders and critics as evil or unreliable

(Satan’s inspiring them to attack Hope 👹.)

  1. Thought Control

Shapes how a person thinks and processes reality:

• Requires internalization of the group’s doctrine as absolute truth

(If you don’t submit and believe in heavy shepherding, they just tell you to go to a different church so you don’t poison the well and make others think.)

• Promotes black-and-white / us-vs-them thinking

(Hope Church good, everyone else Satan’s children.)

• Uses loaded language, thought-stopping techniques, and rejection of critical thinking

(They will gaslight you, flip the situation on you, and make you feel like you’re actually the one in the wrong.)

• Discourages independent thought or questioning

(A lot of people actually lose the ability to think critically because every decision is run through the group, and any disagreement from leadership could mean isolation from the group.)

• May involve renaming, identity change, or rejection of the former self

(They label you disagreeing with them as something that needs to change.)

  1. Emotional Control

Manipulates feelings to create dependency and fear:

• Love-bombing alternating with rejection or criticism

(The first couple of months they love-bomb you, tell you how great you are, and if you’re a guy, get women to give you attention to get you hooked. Once you’re used to their affection, they can begin to mold your identity and threaten you with isolation if you disobey.)

• Instills phobias about leaving or questioning (fear of eternal damnation, failure, isolation, etc.)

(Isolation, “you were never really saved,” etc.)

• Uses guilt, shame, and emotional highs/lows

(Love-bombing, threats, gaslighting you into feeling like you’re at fault, changing your identity to be more obedient.)

• Suppresses or labels certain emotions as wrong

(“You’re in rebellion,” “pride,” etc.)

• Makes the person feel that their happiness and identity depend entirely on the group/leader

(Once a person is entrenched, Hope events and friendships are all they know, so disobedience or isolation from the group would be life-changing.)

My question to Brian Smith would be: Why did you disobey your leaders and start your own church?

To close: You only have about 3–6 months before your identity is changed and you’re brainwashed into the cult, so watch out for your friends. I’ll be going into their theology and more over the next five weeks. I encourage everyone to share, read the article, look out for a Survivor Weekend poster, and just ask Hope this week: Why did their pastor disobey his own shepherds

u/Waste-Dependent2247 — 6 days ago
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Moving into Gabaldon, can the beds be lofted?

Hey! My roommate and I are moving into our Gabaldon suite this year and we made our whole
room layout and we’ve just been assuming we can loft our beds to put our desks underneath it. And now we’re worried they don’t actually adjust that high? Can anyone in Gabaldon say whether or not the beds can be lifted to that height?

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u/Temporary-Fennel717 — 4 days ago
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Winter?

Hello, I’ve been accepted into NAU and I’m wondering what winter is like there? I enjoy snow, but don’t want it to be overly gloomy or rainy! Im from Boston so is it better in flagstaff?
Thanks!

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u/Infinite_Drummer4356 — 5 days ago