r/NetherOnly

Shots of the Strider Farm, Hoglin farm, and Fungus farm. So far all the farms are manual though plan on making the Strider and Hoglin farms semi-automatic when I can make more hoppers.

Got lucky while Bastion raiding and found a Diamond Mending Pickaxe. So happy to be able to stop burning through stone pickaxes constantly lol

A couple discussions on the sub have led to the idea of a Nether-only mod.

There is already mods for a Nether-only respawn, which solves a problem a lot of us have face in the early days of ours NeOn worlds.

But we wondered : what if you could keep the vanilla feel, but widen the possibilities ,not having to rely on glitches and exploit to access overworld items ?

For exemple, nametags are not accessible at all, nor is the ability to enchant, but to me those features would fit well within Nether.

Here you have all the most "vanilla ideas" listed by members so far. There where some great suggestions for a more heavily modded Nether, that we might try and tackle later on if we can pull off the "simple" version first.

Feel free to suggest your own ideas if you like the project !

"NetherOnly+ Mod Ideas

combined with « Nether Start » «or « Nether Start Challenge » ?

RECIPES

• Blackstone or Nether stones for cobble/stone (piston, observer, repeater, dropper, dispenser, comparator, sticky piston, blast furnace, stonecutter, grindstone, lodestone, armor stand)

• Soulsand for sand (glass, TNT)

• Nametags with leather instead of paper

• Magma cream for slime (sticky piston)

LOOT TABLES

• Bastion chests (Compass, redstone)

• Fortress chests (Beetroot seeds)

MOBS/PLANTS/ORES

• Wandering trader On a Strider ?

MECHANICS

• Enchant with glowstone instead of lapis"

Its interesting to hear different people with different approches of Nether only survival.

In the discussions here on the sub, I've seen people going full vanilla, but a lot ask for what mods exists. Some are not against using legit game mechanics to their advantage, other prefer to not go on the Nether roof, or go Overworld-fishibg through a portal...

What are your thoughts? What is the most enjoyable to you ? What feels like cheating ?

sorry for the overall terrible quality and low framerate when there are a lot of entities, I overrestimated my laptop abilities to record and run Minecraft simultaneously :)
ps: I've put my favorite music disk in the back

I like to collect golden swords with good enchants from my ziglin gold farm, and I combine them to make some frustrating swords that would be OP if they were not freaking gold. However I will eventually use them, and I wondered : what is tye best use I can make of them, especially my Looting swords ?
I also have fire aspect, sweeping edge, smite...

While it's a bit cheaty, it might be the best way to get water without using any portals, modifications, or commands :)

You have to change your dimension in your playerdata due to changes in how modern versions handle NBT data. You would be kicked straight into the overworld without doing this.

A couple days ago Ive asked in a post, https://www.reddit.com/r/NetherOnly/s/QcFa7ayugW, if it was possible to even have redstone or redston-y systems in a Nether only world. One person answered with a link to an obscure 3 years old YT channel, with only a dozen followers, which turns out being a goldmine of information. This channel is Arodihy's https://www.youtube.com/@Arodihy, and focuses on very niche contraptions that accomplish complex tasks like item sorting, without a single piece of redstone or overworld resources. They calls it "Nethestone", and I can only encourage you to watch their videos. They're pleasant to listen, very clear, and did several tutorials to explain the basics of Netherstones, as well as videos showing more complex machines.
If your interested in the technical side of Nether Only, definitely go check it out !

Here are my favorites combos to build in Nether Only survival, but Im getting bored of them. Do you have any suggestion to give some variation to my base ? Also, I struggle to make gradients with the limited resources. As you can see I kind of have an orange to black, red to black and white to black, but I would love to find some good ones for warped and crimson wood, gold...

I built a portal so that it comes out near a village center. Chucked items every 15 seconds to generate and load the other side. A villager can walk in while going to the bell or its workstation or bed. If you're lucky the portal could generate right where a villager spawns and you don't have to wait all that long. (don't get your hopes up)

Did it a couple times in creative without leaving the nether. This does require a creative mode copy of your world to do with any consistency.

I mean this is just not in the spirit of the challenge. Not going to stop me though lol

I feel like the Nether is safer than the Overworld. There isn't any daylight cycle that forces you to stop working and go to sleep.

Out of all the Nether biomes, I think the Soul Sand Valley and the Basalt Deltas are the safest.

In the Soul Sand Valley, only Skeletons and Ghasts can spawn, which can be rendered useless with a Shield and the valley has 5 entrances covered so you only need to deal with fireballs from one entrance. Ghasts might keep shooting you so you can build a simple base around your portal made out of blast and fire-resistant blocks. You would also need to build paths to prevent you from being lost or stuck in Soul Sand. You can then light every dark corner on fire to prevent anything, even Ghasts from spawning.

In the Basalt Deltas, there is no need for you to do that, since you can just find a hole of Basalt and you would be protected. However, you might be jumped by Magma Cubes, so you might still want to add a roof.

The other biomes are not that safe. In the Nether Wastes, there are Piglins that attack you if you do not have golden armour and Zombified Piglins would swarm you if you accidentally hit one. In the Crimson Forest or Warped Forest, there are hostile mobs (or Endermen) that can kill you, like Piglins and Hoglins. However, there is no super-destructive mob like Creepers, so it is still safer if you have a base.

If you plan on settling down in the Nether, kill an Enderman holding a Grass Block and mine lots of Dirt. You can cover large areas with Dirt, then place down the Grass Block so it will spread. If you want, you can use Bone Meal to make grass and plant flowers.

At first, you might want to bring Bamboo for a wood source. After a while, you can start bringing in new trees. Other than oak, other types of trees keep their colour in the Nether, so if you want green you can bring birch trees (they also grow quicker). If you want more colour and wood, you can bring cherry blossom trees. You need to light up the saplings for them to grow.

The Nether is, in the Minecraft community, an infamous traveling place: because of the size ratio between the Overworld and the Nether, it became the dimension of choice for traveling over long distances. Therefore, there are countless Nether hubs, Nether highways, ice tracks, railway systems...

But ironically, in Nether-Only, few of the traditional options still work, and most are very expensive. So how do you move around in hell? Let's dive right in.

First, let's break down the different traveling needs around a base or out in the wild. I've distinguished:

• Going up (elevators, ladders, flying...)
• Going down (drop chute, elevators...)
• Going fast, on a recurring path (ice tracks, piston bolts, railways...)
• Exploring

But also:

• Transporting items
• Transporting mobs

Starting with contraptions for around the base:

For going up, the default choices would be ladders, vines (twisted and weeping) that you can climb at the same speed as the ladder. If you want to go quicker than that, an option is **enderpearls ** ,even if it's less of a structure and more of a technique, or elevators. You can make a simple and extremely fast elevator by placing a column of minecarts spaced vertically every four blocks, resting on ladder blocks. However this solution is extremely expensive as it requires a lot of iron. A Nether-Only friendly equivalent consists of replacing the minecarts with striders with saddles. By riding a strider, or even swimming, you can also go up a lava column, but at a very slow pace and requiring the mandatory fire resistance potion, which makes this expensive option pretty much useless.

For going down, and after quite a lot of discussion here on Reddit (thanks everyone for contributing !), it seems that the very best option would be a piece of twisted vine on a solid block to break the fall, with the top sheared to stop the growth. A cheaper but slightly less practical/visually appealing alternative is to put a piece of string on top of it. Other possibilities include a ladder on which to clutch, as you can reliably do it by paneling the chute with trapdoors on the ladder side to avoid hitting the ladder's border.

Using lava the same way we would use water in the Overworld is tempting, but it turns out lava reduces fall damage very inconsistently, as you will take full damage if you fall from 12, 13, 17, 20, 23, 25, 26, 28, 30, 32, 35, 37, 39, 41, or 43 blocks, but not at other heights according to recent bug reports. And you will systematically die after a fall higher than 45 blocks. In addition to that, the way lava breaks your fall is not by negating fall damage the same way water does, but by slowing your vertical speed every tick until your speed is low enough that hitting the bottom of the magma pool won't kill you. So do your tests first if that's something you might try.

Other options are skill-based clutches that I will not include.

For going fast, the options are limited. There are always the railways, but their cost is very high, and as there are no powered rails in NeOn, you can only go fast downward. Your best shot is gonna be soul speed boots on a soul sand track. Soul sand is very abundant and bartering gives slots of it, and piglins also give soul speed boots. If you barter a lot like I do, you will collect boots faster than you wear them down. I think the ideal Nether-Only highway system is a network of bridges and tunnels paved with soul sand for this very reason. Even better if your roads are spawn-proof, blast-resistant, and lit.

And for exploring, the good "bridging-in-a-straight-line-until-I-hit-a-wall-then-I-dig-in-a-straight-line" never gets old. The problem with the Nether, if you don't use F3, is the unavailability of lodestone compasses, which kind of forces you to mark your way if you don't want to get lost. For that purpose I advise using gravel, as its color contrasts in every biome, it's pretty useless except for a couple of niche uses, and you get a ton of it with piglin bartering.

An alternative is strider exploring, as it allows you to travel on lava lakes, but at a reduced pace and without a good way to pave your way for the future.

I figured since we are on the transportation chapter, why not also talk about item transportation? So here are my tips for Nether-Only cargo trips.

• Use ender chests! Especially for your valuables. The Nether is a deadly place, and you never know if you'll make it back to base alive with a Bastion's worth of loot. So craft stacks of ender chests, always have some on you, and use them for bulk transportation as well as valuables delivery. I like to put my silk touch pickaxe in it, for whenever I need it, as well as an iron pickaxe for gold blocks, cause I don't want to lose my iron pick either. It can also be a good idea to use it as a fast transfer method between your farms, for example.
• Bundles seem obvious but are worth mentioning: when you don't have shulkers, they really save some precious inventory space.
• Minecarts can actually be decent for this specific use, since you don't need to go fast. Furnace minecarts can push minecarts with chests between your places - another possible addition to your highways.

For mobs, minecarts are really the only option for automated travel over big distances. You can lead chickens, hoglins and striders, but will have to rely on AI pathfinding for anything else. It is worth mentioning that hoglins on a lead won't attack you.

That's it for transportation! I hope some of you may learn something new or get inspired - as always your comments and additions are more than welcome, I will edit the post later to add them.