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Night Crawler Kit idea

Night Crawler Kit idea

My favorite character in X-Men is Nightcrawler and I would love if they added him to the game. Some edits to an old concept

Here's my concept on how he would work.

250 HP

{PASSIVES}

> **(WALL HANG)** "Pressing the jump button while in air sticks you to the wall"

> **(WALL CRAWL)** "While hanging on a wall crawl slowly"

> **(STAMINA)** "Nightcrawler has 100 Points of Stamina, these points are used to pay for his actions in TELEPORT MODE and TELEPORT JUMP. All actions involved with teleport use 10 stamina points"

> **(STAMINA REGEN)** "Stamina regenerates at a rate of 15 points per second after a 2 second pause that occurs after a teleport is performed"

> **(STALKER)** "All attacks that land on an enemy's back deal 100% or double damage"

{ABILITIES}

> **(TELEPORT MODE)** "Enter Teleport mode and use the following keys/buttons to perform different types of teleports"

[Blink Teleport] -> "Perform a short teleport of 10 meters, becoming damage immune during teleport. On Auto Blink, you teleport in the direction you are moving, with Auto Blink Off you teleport in the direction of the camera"

[Long Teleport] -> "Teleport to the marker that is set to your camera, this marker can travel 50 meters in any direction, does not require a surface to teleport"

[Point Teleport] -> "Hold the Button and drop a point, this point will remain until death, it is used or destroyed by an enemy. Has 50 HP. Pressing the Point Button will immediately teleport you back to it."

[Direct Teleport] -> "While in focus mode, the closest enemy to you will be marked, pressing this button will teleport you to stand in front of them, with their body facing the exact same orientation as it was prior to your teleport."

> **(GRAPPLE)** "Grab an enemy/ally by latching onto them and slowing their movement speed by 60%. While grappled on an enemy/ally you can teleport. Lasts for 3 seconds or until you die. Cooldown of 7 seconds"

> **(NIGHT'S FURY)** "Perform an angled left forward flip as you slash and kick your opponent. You attack 4 times with this action, once with each limb. Damage pattern of the attack is 50 / 35 / 25 / 20 for a total of 130 damage.

> **(TELEPORT JUMP)** "Jump, and while in air jump again to teleport upwards 10 meters, becoming damage immune as you do so."

{ATTACKS}

> **(BLADE SLASH)** "Using Your Blade, slash and thrust as you attack 2 times per second, each attack dealing 40 damage."

{ULTIMATE}

> **(NOBLE JUDGEMENT)** "Nightcrawler enters a stance where he cannot move and all enemies on his visible screen get marked. Those marked on Activation are then attacked with his tail, cutting their eyes, as he teleports to them all, dealing 20 damage initially and an additional 5 damage per second for 10 seconds. During the same 10 seconds the targets hit are blind."

u/EntertainmentEasy864 — 11 hours ago

idk about a full kit but i hope he has a double jump thats reskinned to look like a tp

like when he double jumps he immediately teleports right above him, or if he is moving he teleports up and at an angle in the direction he is going. i think itll really fit the hero fantasy of teleporting alot :p

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u/Smhmyhead00 — 13 hours ago

Tell me what you think of nightcrawler teleporting like this.

I see a lot of people want nightcrawlers teleport as 3-5 charges which is fine and would work. I was thinking what if instead of charges he has a meter like phoenix’s flight meter for his teleportations. The longer his teleportation button is held down the further he will teleport but use up more of his meter. This can also be envisioned like hulk holding down his jump while still attacking to prepare for an exit except he only has so much meter he can use. This allows nightcrawler to blitz a bunch in quick succession if you are confident you can manage the resource correctly. Theoretically if he is a dive dps and is good at engaging without teleports he can bamf more in people face and still have enough resources to get out but if he misjudges how much meter he has and only goes 10 meters away then he is a sitting duck. This is mostly for a dive dps but for the people that want his bamf smoke to heal this would also help with that quite a bit and this makes his teleport more unique then the other teleporters. This system would definitely give him a varying skill ceiling/floor and I think we can all agree we want him to be a crazy agile 4 or 5 star hero.

Side note: saw someone post that his double jump should be a a little teleport up which I think would be cool too

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u/mortal357 — 12 hours ago

Practice range, infinite cooldowns, spam Phoenix tp/dash in omnidirectional movement.

Yall ever been a bit bored after running some matches and just mess around in the practice range by yourself or with some buddies?

Since Jean came out I like to mess around with the infin CDs with her tp and it got me thinking about Kurt’s teleporting. Should his work something similar to how Jean tps? Ofc with infinite cooldowns she can go blitzing but maybe Kurt can be a far more toned down version with the same speed (like 3-5 charges of his BAMFs and dealing damage reduces the CDs like with Sai).

Y’all could give it a try and let me know your thoughts?

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u/Planet_Munch — 14 hours ago

I am really looking forward to next season's theme

When I found out Kurt was going to accompany Gorr in season 10 I thought it was weird but then it immediately clicked that they're doing a whole season revolving around faith

u/johnreddit99 — 1 day ago

The numbers don't need to match, the heroes need to feel right

The roster parity discourse fundamentally misunderstands what Marvel Rivals is adapting. Marvel wasn't created around three hero-shooter roles. Most Marvel characters punch, shoot, stab or blast people; far fewer naturally fit dedicated tank or support fantasies. Of course faithfully adapting Marvel produces more Duelists.

That launch discrepancy also isn't getting "fixed." NetEase has moved to roughly 1-1-1 releases going forward, so all three roles grow equally while the original gap remains. That's fine. Why do three numbers on the character select screen need to match?

And roster size isn't roster depth. Having 20+ Duelists doesn't mean 20+ are competitively viable, nor does having fewer Vanguards or Strategists make those roles weaker. Number of heroes ≠ number of viable heroes ≠ role popularity ≠ role power.

The obsession with parity creates backwards character design. Instead of asking "What role best expresses this character?" people ask "How can we justify putting them in the role with fewer heroes?" That's how you get Healcrawler or Vanguard Cyclops.

Gambit being a Strategist isn't justification for jamming anyone into Strategist. Gambit works because NetEase found canonical support abilities while still making him feel like Gambit. That's the standard: does playing the hero optimally make you behave like that character?

Nightcrawler is a teleporting, acrobatic melee swordsman. A relatively recent sword that can heal shouldn't override 50 years of combat identity because Strategist has fewer portraits.

Perfect roster parity won't make role popularity equal anyway. People who enjoy DPS aren't becoming tank/support mains because the roster says 30/30/30.

Don't fucking mutilate established characters to make three numbers match. The numbers don't need to match. The characters need to feel right.

TL:DR: Role parity is not inherently a design objective, especially in a licensed game where the source material itself doesn't contain equal numbers of natural tanks, damage dealers and supports.

Before you comment, if your response falls into any of the following buckets:

  • Strategist has fewer heroes.
  • Strategist needs more players.
  • Nightcrawler is popular, so he'll attract players.
  • People are tired of filling.
  • Duelist already has popular characters.
  • Hopesword technically heals

Anything except starting with Nightcrawler...

Just don't.

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u/sloogz — 2 days ago

‏Nightcrawler full dive melee support concept

I took the gif from this (https://youtu.be/bQnLnbuCbjY?si=miFVxTNN3lnV1VdM)

I’ve been thinking about what Nightcrawler could be like if he ends up as a dive melee Strategist, and I really like the idea of making him a melee main healer.

Basically, I want him to be strongest when he’s actually diving with his team. He has a weaker ranged option for when he can’t reach someone, but his main healing would come from the Hopesword and i’d like to add his BAMFS (his little clones/creatures) .

These numbers are obviously just rough ideas so it wouldn’t be like a balanced concept.

Weapon Stances

He would have two stances: Hopesword and Three Swords.

His Left Click and Right Click change depending on the stance, while the rest of his abilities stay the same.

For the weapon swap animation , I’d have his little BAMFs (his small creatures) quickly appear around him. They take the weapon he’s currently holding and give him the other one, then disappear. The whole thing would be really quick.

Passive — Double Jump

Pretty much what you’d expect. Nightcrawler can double jump, with the second jump allowing him to change direction.

Hopesword — Left Click

His main healing attack.

50 HP per hit
0.5 attacks/sec
\~4m range

It can’t damage enemies.

When he heals an ally, nearby allies also get 30 HP healing, with around a 3m splash radius.

He also gets 15% of the healing he provides as self-healing.

And if he’s holding the Hopesword and stays out of combat for 3 seconds, he starts regenerating 30 HP/sec.

Hopesword — Right Click: Purification

I don’t think the cleanse should have a normal cooldown.

Instead, he has a Purification meter that charges whenever he heals an ally.

Both the Hopesword and ranged BAMF healing contribute to it, but his self-healing doesn’t.

Once it’s full, he can use Right Click to cleanse an ally. Using it empties the meter and he has to build it again.

So the better you’re healing, the more often you’re able to cleanse.

Three Swords — Left Click

When he switches to his three physical swords, his Left Click becomes his melee attack.

35 damage
0.5 attacks/sec
\~4m range

Two swords are in his hands and the third is controlled by his tail.

Three Swords — Right Click: Tail Sweep

He uses the sword held by his tail to make a wide sweep around himself.

45 damage
\~4.5m radius
Small knockback
6s cooldown

It’s an extra attack with some AoE that can give him a little space when enemies get close.

F — Ranged: BAMF Healing/Damage

Nightcrawler sends one of his little BAMFs toward a target.

Enemy: 20 damage
Ally: 25 HP healing
\~25m range
8s cooldown
2 charges

Healing with it also charges his Purification meter.

I want this to be pretty weak compared to the Hopesword. It’s basically there for when he can’t get into melee range, not something he should be using as his main healing method.

E — Ally Teleport

Teleport directly to a targeted ally within 30m.

6s cooldown

Completing the teleport heals Nightcrawler for 40 HP.

Pretty straightforward. It’s mainly for quickly joining an ally or repositioning.

Shift — Directional Self-Teleport

He teleports in whatever direction he’s currently moving.

Forward = forward, left = left, diagonal = diagonal, etc.

It also works in the air.

8m teleport distance
6s cooldown
30 HP self-healing

Together with the double jump, this would give him a lot of mobility.

Q — Hopesword Sanctuary

For his ult, Nightcrawler uses the power of the Hopesword to create a big bubble-like Sanctuary at a location he chooses and its providing healing and cleansing .

It’s stationary and doesn’t move with him.

\~10m radius
\~10m height
150 HP/sec healing

The bubble also sends out a Purification Wave every second, cleansing applicable negative effects from allies inside.

So instead of giving permanent cleanse immunity, the cleanse happens in pulses, so you could still get hit by a negative effect between waves, but the next wave would cleanse it.

Also when the ult starts, his little BAMFs attach themselves to his allies. Each ally gets a one-time teleport back to the Sanctuary.

The important part is that the ally chooses whether to use it. They’re never forced to teleport, so ally A could dive really deep away from his ult, get low, and decide to teleport back to the Sanctuary. Meanwhile ally B could decide not to use his and keep diving.

Once the BAMF is used, or the ult ends, it disappears.

In conclusion

I mainly want him to feel like a support who actually dives with his team.

His Hopesword is where most of his healing comes from, his three swords are the way to deal decent damage, the BAMF attack gives him something to do at range without turning him into a ranged support, and his teleports let him constantly move between allies, finally he ult gives the team a stationary of healing and cleansing place to regroup around, while the BAMFs give everyone an optional way back to it.

u/Unlucky-Steak6004 — 3 days ago

Nightcrawlers kit

There’s a really high chance that nightcrawler and Gorr the god Butcher will be coming in Season 10, and it had me thinking that those two would Possibly fight in the cinematic trailer and so I was wondering how nightcrawler could fight someone with all Black
And this makes me strongly believe that nightcrawler will have he hope sword as part of his kit

u/Adorable-Toe-6451 — 3 days ago

If not Nightcrawler for strategist then who else?

Before I get into it, just wanna make it clear that I’m very neutral on whatever Kurt’s role will be because he fits both quite well. I flex but mostly been playing strategist and vanguard for the past couple seasons (due to 3 dps instalocks). So it’s preferable Kurt would be a strategist.

So, like it says in the title, if Kurt isn’t a strategist, who else would fit that role for the rest of this year’s character roaster? Buckle up for the long-ish read because this is what’s lined up for the last two upcoming seasons (tldr at the end):

Season 10:
- Gorr
- Nightcrawler (supposedly)

Season 11:
- Unknown
- Doctor Doom (supposedly)

The unknown is theorized to be many characters such as Captain Marvel, Dazzler, Hive (ehh), etc… It was also “leaked” that season 11 might have a double role hero (van-duel but kinda unlikely), that people think might be Doom.

And that’s following along with Guang Guang’s 1-1-1 rule that’s been talked about here and there.
But with all of that, where’s the room for a strategist? It could possibly be season 11 but that would contradict the 1-1-1 rule, so it’s still not known until that time comes.

But what we do know is this:

If Gorr is a duelist —> Kurt is a strategist
if Gorr is a vanguard —> Kurt is a duelist

Will they go for a van-van back to back with Gorr if he’s released first? I’d hope so maybe. But then it would contradict their “1-1-1” rule.
And if that’s the case and Kurt is a duelist, then the only strategists we’ve gotten this past year is White Fox and Jubilee.

I’m excluding DP out of this whole thing as he’s all three, but he was originally meant to be a dps before NetEase switched to multirole.

Meaning this is what we could have by the end of this year:

Vanguards:
- Devil Dinosaur
- The Hood
- Gorr the God-Butcher
- Doctor Doom (van)

Duelists:
- Elsa Bloodstone
- Black Cat
- Cyclops
- Nightcrawler
- Doctor Doom (dps)

Strategists:
- White Fox
- Jubilee

[Unknown hero and role]

So like then looking at all that… maybe Kurt should be a strategist if we’re viewing it this way.
But then again all of this is based off leaks and what the devs have actually told us. This kinda took a min to make, so I’d love to hear y’all’s thoughts?

TL;DR: The rest of the year’s hero roaster might not have room for a strategist. If based on the 1-1-1 rule, then Kurt’s seemingly the only one who could fit that role otherwise the year might end with only 2 (not including DP) strategists.

[credits to the artist and whoever made that funny Kurt edit]

u/Planet_Munch — 3 days ago

As a Muslim, ima be upset if this guy doesn't quote the bible every few minutes, its literally his identity, especially if hes a support role

u/sufinomo — 3 days ago
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The non-comic fans are gonna get so mad when the X-men’s medic/priest with a cannon healing sword is released as a strategist

u/NewConstruction3755 — 5 days ago

#spoiler. What was that weak ahh finale to 97 ? what’s going to happened to my boy Nightcrawler?

Started off as a really good season but slowly just went down.

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u/astralCldy — 3 days ago

I said I wouldn’t, but here: Cleanse in his kit

I know we’ve had a massive influx of character kits. So I won’t be doing a kit idea.
More of an ability/passive idea.

So, Strat Kurt or Duelist Kurt, it doesn’t matter because I think this passive works for both.

I think his passive should remove any CC on him, or the character that he’s teleporting to/with.
Think about it: 3 charges, each on a 4 sec cooldown that sheds off like .2 seconds with each primary hit.

Imagine Crawler and Daredevil diving. DD gets frozen by Luna, but Crawler teleports to him and immediately cleanses the CC and gives him like 25-50 bonus health, maybe more or less depending on how much DD had to begin with. Crawler can also do this to himself, but he doesn’t gain bonus health.

This incentivizes strategy, and teamwork, and also gives Crawler a massive skill ceiling.

Thoughts?

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u/Zealousideal_Pie_373 — 3 days ago

Real footage of me begging every deity in every religion and every mythology that Nightcrawler is a dive dps/support hybrid with utility abilities like Storm and voiced by Liam O'Brien:

Yes, I know a lot of people want him to be a full support, but I don't want him to be stuck in triple heal jail like Ultron. I know about the Hopesword, that he takes a more supportive role in the comics via teleporting allies and civilians out of the way of danger, and I know the devs made the dude and the chick who's X-genes are making shit blow up, the Racoon with a million guns and explosives, and the clanker that wants nothing but the eradication of all organic life supports, but do you really think they're gonna release a mutant support back to back?

u/Son_o_Sparda — 5 days ago
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Adrian Hough as the VA??

Cmon now, he’s got the perfect voice for it. He voiced Kurt in X-men 97

Liam O’Brien has always voiced crawler quite a lot. Always love Liam. However, he’s already Dr. Strange.

What are your thoughts, mein freunds????? 🩵💙❤️🖤

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u/Zealousideal_Pie_373 — 6 days ago

Oh okay I see we are going to be those people that are going to lord nightcrawler the week he comes out and have the entire mr community telling us to touch grass and water.

I’ll be the first to get animated lord mark my words

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u/astralCldy — 6 days ago

Question: do you all want nightcrawlers bamfs to be in rivals with Kurt

Personally I want them to be like nightcrawlers emoji and maybe an emote. I would love if they did something interesting with them in his kit but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

u/mortal357 — 6 days ago

Nightcrawler needs these skins in rivals.

Would be nice if uncanny spider man is the launch skin. Or if nightcrawler releases in October they could give him his vampire hunter priest skin.

u/Inside-Vacation-2349 — 6 days ago