r/OrderFlow_Trading

Hi guys !

I’m currently using Motivewave connecting with Lucid partners for their free license and I’m able to get data every month . However I’ve been struggling a lot with the lag on Motivewave and I realise that there’s ATAS X . ( Oh yes , the reason why I only chose those cause I’m using MAC ) .

I downloaded ATAS X and found their interface pretty fast moving . I’ve checked that Lucid only provides free data and doesn’t provide additional features on the free ATAS. Anyway get around to get ATAS license with prop firm ? I saw they have 4PropTrader but have not use that prop firm before , only using Topstep and Lucid at the moment.

Please do help ! Thank you.

Hi Guys,

Just to say, i'm pretty new to Orderflow and currently am learning still... i thought by hearing YT livestream would be beneficial, but i find that it's affecting my trades while hearing the livestreamer present his view.

There's this YT livestreamer who is really good with Volumeprofile and his explanation on context which is what i really needed. But i just feel so stressed when i'm in my trade, if i'm long and maybe he's short, i would just go breakeven and in the end it took me out but my direction is correct, then he will explain that it took him out. He's a good Orderflow trader though.

Anyone facing this issue and if i should continue hearing YT livestream or just purely hear YT livestream and not trade my accounts. I've made 3L on 3 different days when i'm hearing the livestream but on days when I didn't hear i'm in greens.

Any advice would be helpful on how to improve on Orderflow.

I trade MNQ by the way on Evals. Almost blew my evals today and i lock myself out.

GC Futures – What Do You Consider a “Whale” Print?
For those trading GC futures using 1-minute footprint/order flow, what size Bid/Ask print would you consider unusually large or “whale” participation?
For example, would 200+, 300+, 500+ contracts at a single price level be significant on GC?
I’m specifically looking at absorption, aggression, and stacked imbalances. Curious what thresholds experienced GC order-flow traders use.

Full disclosure: I built the overlay shown here for my own research, and I currently use it myself. I am not linking it or offering access in this post. I am trying to understand whether options-derived context actually belongs alongside order flow, or whether it just adds more chart clutter.

The idea is to keep three pieces of context on the same chart:

- Current ES/NQ/GC futures-options reference levels

- 14 days of movement for the same levels

- 30 days of observed touch reactions, with sample size, a five-minute reaction rate, and median move

I am also testing touch, break, and reclaim classifications over a five-minute observation window.

I currently have working research builds in NinjaTrader 8 and ATAS for ES, NQ and GC. I also map COMEX GC options context onto XAUUSD in MT5. The ATAS and MT5 screenshots are from current working builds, so some labels are still in Chinese.

These are model-derived research references—not observed dealer inventory, trade signals, or an order-placement system.

Questions for traders who actually use footprint, DOM, CVD, or volume profile:

1. Would you check an options-derived level before looking at footprint/DOM confirmation, or only after price reaches an existing volume-profile level?

2. Does a five-minute break/reclaim window make sense for intraday use? What window would you use?

3. What minimum sample size would you require before the historical reaction rate became useful?

4. Which fields would need to remain visible—selected expiries, as-of time, source contract, data coverage, or something else?

I am especially interested in criticism from traders who would not use this. What would make it redundant, misleading, or too cluttered for an actual order-flow workspace?

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Hi All- Please check this indicator if you have trading view premium account and leave your comments.

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A while back, a friend and I got two funded accounts, and he was the one trading them. Unfortunately, he ended up blowing both.

One thing that’s been on my mind is that maybe the problem is simply not getting enough practical experience with the concepts.

I found a prop firm that offers a $25k account with the data I need included for free. I’m thinking about getting the account, but not actually taking any trades at first. Just using it to interact with the market, practice, and journal for maybe 2–3 months before taking my first actual trade.

What do you guys think? Has anyone tried something similar?

I'm trading NQ and ES with the AMT concepts. If I tell my analysis briefly, I use weekly volume profile for analysing medium term auction structure. Then use daily volume profile to identify LVN with bias. I trade both rejections and breakouts of LVN. I use footprints to refine my entry. I am currently analysing the volumes of RTH sessions (daily and weekly profiles). Anyone who trade volume profiles, please advice on following questions.

1. Is there any importance in overnight volume

2. Should I include overnight volume ( Globex) for my analysis

3. Can I consider overnight levels as reliable as RTH levels.

Any answer is highly appreciated.

Hi everyone,

I don't if I can or not to ask that but I'll do 😅

Anyone have Sierra crack lifetime not like VT with one month license.

Thank you 🙏

Im kinda new to orderflow Are there free platforms for orderflow similar to atas?

Been trading NQ on the 1-min for a while, footprint + Bookmap, and I keep going back and forth on how much weight to give each piece.

Right now session VWAP is my main reference, with prior day high/low and the value area for context. But I'm never quite sure whether I should be trading the level and using flow to confirm, or reading the flow first and treating levels as background.

Curious how you all handle it:

- Do you build around VWAP, or around volume profile (POC, VAH/VAL, HVN/LVN)?

- HVNs — do you avoid them entirely, or trade inside them differently? I mostly stay out, but I've seen people deliberately work inside them and I'm wondering what they're seeing.

- What actually pulls the trigger at a level for you — absorption, delta divergence, resting size that doesn't pull?

- Anchored VWAP: does anyone use it seriously, and what do you anchor to?

Not after anyone's exact system, just interested in how people think about the hierarchy between these.

I’ve been trading for over four years now, and lately, I’ve reached a point where I genuinely feel stuck.

It’s strange because I don’t feel like I know nothing. In fact, I feel like I know almost everything I’m supposed to know. I’ve studied market structure, order flow, risk management, psychology, execution. I’ve put in the time. And yet, somehow, nothing seems to click.

I’m not giving up. Not even close. But I honestly don’t know what I’m missing.

People often say trading is all about discipline, and I understand that. But I also believe there has to be a moment where something finally clicks that “aha” moment where everything you’ve learned starts making sense in the context of your own trading. I haven’t had that moment yet.

What makes it even more frustrating is that I know I’m capable of consistency. I’ve had winning streaks lasting weeks without a single red trade. Then, seemingly out of nowhere, I get stuck again and start questioning everything.

I’ve experimented with combining order flow and market structure, although lately I’ve been relying much more heavily on market structure. Maybe that’s part of the problem. Maybe my risk management is the real issue. Maybe it’s my execution, my psychology, or something I haven’t even identified yet.

That’s the hardest part.

I don’t know what has gone wrong, or even whether something has actually gone wrong. I just know that I feel stuck.

Four years in, and I’m still searching for that missing piece.

I’m not looking for sympathy, and I’m not giving up.

I just needed to say it out loud.

Hi everyone,

I’d like to hear from those of you who have more experience with Order Flow and might be able to give me some advice.

I’m interested in learning Order Flow, but I’ve noticed there’s a huge amount of information available on YouTube. To avoid learning the wrong things from the beginning, I’d really appreciate some recommendations from people who know the subject well.

Ideally, I’m looking for someone or some course that can take me from beginner to an advanced level. I learn fairly quickly, so I’m looking for a deep dive rather than just a basic introduction.

I especially like when the material includes lots of practical examples and shows how things actually work in real situations.

Do you know of any free software or platform where I can view and practice Order Flow without having to pay for TradingView?

The recommendations don’t have to be limited to YouTube. I’m also happy to pay for a good course, training, or other educational material if you think it’s worth the money.

Thanks in advance for any recommendations and advice!

Hey everyone,

I trade ES futures and I've been studying auction theory and order flow seriously for a while, composites, value migration, footprint etc. Doing it alone works, but honestly it gets lonely, and I've noticed I learn twice as fast when I have to explain my reasoning to someone else.

So I put together a small group. It's completely free and the idea is simple: every day we share contexts, ideas and understanding of the market, no signals, no ego, no judgment...

Quick transparency note: I'm a software engineer and I build my own NT8 order flow indicators, which I will share with the group COMPLETELY FREE.

If that sounds like your kind of thing, comment..

Been thinking about using a delta volume profile instead of my usual [volume x delta] footprint on 2000 tick chart for NQ. I'm usually just looking for absorption or reaction on S/R levels indicated by low volume nodes and other key levels like POC, VAH, VAL, etc.

In essence just splitting up the info from individual footprints to the sides of my chart, left side is volume profile, right side is delta profile, for a cleaner less noisy setup. I would keep the tick chart.

Just wanted to to see what you guys thought about this setup, would it still give me the confluence I'm looking for in a cleaner format? What are the pro's and con's vs footprint?

Also what are your setups like?

Since school is around the corner, over the course of the summer I’ve been implementing OrderFlow to curate my strategy and grown consistent with it is as far as my risk management and so on. Since then MotiveWave is my go to rather than my older price actioned site tradingview.

Ive recently acquired it once again for my final year, and when I hit the download button to get MotiveWave onto the computer, it says it has been blocked by the administration, then immediately typing tradingview, I realized i cant download anything software trading alike onto this computer. Only things accessible in the search bar.

Does anyone know any Orderflow sites that are web based or know any loopholes/another way to avoid this stump?

P.S. I don’t have a laptop and have access to only a PC (at home)

Hi,

I’ve been searching everywhere, but I can’t seem to find any free real-time 1-minute data for Gold and NQ futures that is available via API or WebSocket.

Does anyone know of a provider that offers this for free?

I’d really appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks in advance!