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The Pakistan you left — does it still exist, or only in your head?

Most of us left Pakistan with a very specific picture in our heads.

The street you grew up on. The smell of rain on hot concrete. The chai at the same dhaba every morning. Neighbors who knew your name. A pace of life that was chaotic but somehow familiar and comforting.

That Pakistan felt like home. This one — the one on the news, the one relatives describe, the one you see on your visits — sometimes feels like a different country wearing the same name.

So the honest question is — are you returning to a real place, or to a memory?

And even if you made peace with the fact that Pakistan has changed — there's another fear nobody really talks about openly.

Are you afraid of integrating back?

Not the paperwork, not the logistics. The social reintegration. Walking into a room full of relatives and feeling like a guest in your own family. Your cousins have inside jokes you don't get. Your siblings have friendships, routines and a whole life you were never part of. You laugh a little too loud, dress slightly differently, have opinions that make the room go quiet.

You're family — but you're also somehow the expat cousin.

And it goes both ways. Does your family back home still treat you as one of their own — or has the distance quietly changed that too? Are you the one they're proud of, or the one who left? Sometimes both at the same time.

Some returnees say it took them a full year to stop feeling like a foreigner in their own country. Others say they never fully shook that feeling and came back abroad.

Has anyone here actually gone through this? Did you ever feel truly home again — or is home now somewhere in between?

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u/hamidsahab — 23 hours ago

Foreign investment plunges to $1.409bn

Foreign direct investment (FDI) fell by 31 per cent during the first 10 months of the current financial year, reflecting Pakistan’s continuing struggle to attract foreign investors.

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u/NoUtimesinfinite — 1 day ago
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Imagine saving all your life, sacrificing years only to find the house dealer sold you is illegal

Why aren't there bigger safeguards? How many countless fall victim.

u/Meinfailure — 1 day ago
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The guilt of leaving aging parents behind — how do you actually deal with it?

Nobody talks about this one openly. But I think it quietly lives in the back of every overseas Pakistani's mind.

You moved abroad for opportunity, for a better life, for your kids' future. And it made sense at the time. But somewhere along the way your parents got older. The video calls started showing more grey hair, slower movement, a tiredness in their eyes that wasn't there before.

And you're still here. Thousands of miles away.

For a lot of us the deal was always "I'll go back when the time is right." But the time never feels right. There's always one more year of saving, one more school year to finish, one more promotion to wait for. And meanwhile they're getting older every single day without you there.

Some of us fly back as often as we can afford to. Some send money and tell ourselves that counts. Some have moved parents over abroad which solves the distance but creates its own complicated guilt — uprooting a 70 year old from everything they know. Some have siblings back home and quietly rely on them carrying the load, which creates a whole different kind of guilt.

And some of us have already lost a parent while being abroad — and carry that weight in a way that never fully goes away.

There's no clean answer to this one. But I think pretending it doesn't hurt is worse than talking about it.

How do you handle it? Have you found anything that actually helps — or is this just the price we pay for the life we chose?

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u/hamidsahab — 3 days ago

Pakistani lawyer here, ask me anything about legal issues you’re confused about or dealing with.

Hey, I’m a lawyer from Pakistan, practicing in Lahore. I wanted to do a little AMA thing because I realized most people only talk to lawyers after things have already gone completely sideways. I guess people avoid lawyers because they assume talking to a lawyer is expensive or intimidating. So I thought I’d do a simple AMA for anyone confused about how things actually work legally in Pakistan.

So if you’ve got random legal questions or you’re confused about how something actually works here, ask away. Could be property stuff, family issues, jobs/workplace problems, contracts, legal notices, police matters, inheritance, whatever.

Not trying to turn this into a consultation thing. Just thought it’d be useful because there’s a lot of bad advice floating around online and half the time people don’t even know what their actual rights are.

I’ll answer what I can.

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u/SushiSwoosh — 4 days ago

guys opinions?

GUYS.. what do you say about teacher student marriage?Do you consider it a taboo or do you think ky it's okay. Cuz, i see here people supporting homos (i am not starting another debate here) surely they will have no problem with it.

A friend of mine(Male) proposed to his teacher, she might be 4-5 yrs older than him. But, you know us Pakistanis. She was actively hanging out with him, then ditched him, said parents ni mantey.

Opinions?

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u/Born-Spend8752 — 3 days ago

Desi people have an obsession with degrading others.

idk if it happens with you guys or not. Like, i have seen in my surroundings ky people just don't know how to communicate without hurting others. Unfortunately including my dad, and uncles aunt. I get so irritated.

One day, i was going with my dad, a friend of his passed by us and he stopped for hello hi. My dad asked about his son(he is newly married) and said abhi tk bachy ni hoye saal hogya hai, kisi doctors ko check krwana tha. I was like 'Wth'. My dad just starts embarrasing other people (i love him to the core of my heart). It has happened so many times. Same with my uncles , aunts from my mother side also.

Irony is, when same happens to them, the get offended.

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u/Born-Spend8752 — 3 days ago
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PDM borrowed more in 15 months than PTI did in 3.5 years

Every time a PMLN supporter says “PTI destroyed the economy,” show them this: PTI governed 3.5 years and added Rs18 trillion to debt, Rs14.5 billion/day. The PDM government, led by the same Sharif dynasty convicted in the Panama Papers case and disqualified for life by Pakistan’s own Supreme Court, added Rs18.5 trillion in just 15 months, Rs41 billion/day. Nearly 3x faster, in less than half the time. And here’s what they don’t tell you: PTI borrowed ~Rs14.6 trillion externally but repaid Rs10.4 trillion of it. PDM borrowed at record speed and has no comparable repayment record, they were barely covering interest payments.

The human cost? Under PTI, poverty held at 21–24%. Under PDM it exploded to 40.5%. 60 million Pakistanis below the poverty line. Real wages fell 20% while inflation outpaced income by 50%. Unemployment hit a 21-year high. Average household income dropped Rs4,000/month in real terms.

Sources:
For the debt numbers (Rs14.5B/day PTI vs Rs41B/day PDM) via Express Tribune:
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2431050/debt-soars-rs185tr-during-pdm-govt

For poverty (40.5% under PDM):
https://www.dawn.com/news/1866389

u/NoUtimesinfinite — 5 days ago
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Military Intelligence

I feel very uncomfortable about how Pakistan's army has an Intelligence arm totally outside of any sort of accountability from our civilian govt.

No established, stable democracy has a primary intelligence service that operates completely outside civilian government control.

Why couldn't the ISI build out a team to support the Army? Huh? Is the MI there to promote the interests of the civilian govt or the army? How come we never see his head sit or take photos by Munir? Has anyone even seen a photo of the guy who heads MI? Its so secretive that no one can ever see his face?

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u/WhoReallyKnowsThis — 5 days ago

Desi people have an obsession with degrading others.

idk if it happens with you guys or not. Like, i have seen in my surroundings ky people just don't know how to communicate without hurting others. Unfortunately including my dad, and uncles aunt. I get so irritated.

One day, i was going with my dad, a friend of his passed by us and he stopped for hello hi. My dad asked about his son(he is newly married) and said abhi tk bachy ni hoye saal hogya hai, kisi doctors ko check krwana tha. I was like 'Wth'. My dad just starts embarrasing other people (i love him to the core of my heart). It has happened so many times. Same with my uncles , aunts from my mother side also.

Irony is, when same happens to them, the get offended.

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u/Born-Spend8752 — 3 days ago
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Pakistan drops from 2.84 to 2.44 in The Economist Democracy Index in 2025

This is the lowest score in our history and is worse than the score we had during Musharraf's marital law. Pakistan has been classified under a authoritarian regime since 2023.

This puts us just slightly worse than the likes of Egypt and slightly better than the likes of China.

I understand that this index has received a lot of criticism but I think we can all acknowledge, anecdotally, the depreciating condition of the Pakistani democracy.

Image source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Economist\_Democracy\_Index

u/NoUtimesinfinite — 5 days ago

Im from IOK and need help

Assalamualaikum, [Ig my post may break a rule of your sub, Im really sorry for that, Mods pleeaasee dont remove this post.]

I am from Indian Occupied Kashmir (IOK). We have recently launched a platform, an independent, fully anonymous hyperlocal citizen journalism platform for Kashmiris. The goal is to give people in the Valley a safe space to share ground realities, local issues, civic problems, human rights concerns, and news without fear, bias, or pressure from any side. The site is already live.

Why I'm posting here:

In IOK, the situation for independent voices has become very difficult. Authorities are cracking down hard on journalists and anyone speaking truth. We are genuinely frightened of repercussions. That's why the platform is built with strong anonymity ,posters don't need to reveal identity, and we want to keep it that way. You have the option to post completely anonymously.

I need 1/2 trusted, mature, and reliable brothers/sisters from Pakistan who can join the administration team as moderators/admins.

What I need:
I am a moderator myself and mostly you wont need to do the mod work (eg delete posts, comments, spam posts etc. I will do it myself. I will also detect and delete the fake news myself InshaAllah). You will be the main/majority moderators (on paper) and there will be no trace of any Kashmiri mod on the site. Since the primary moderators will be from Pakistan, Indian authorities will not be able to get any real data or identities of Kashmiri posters through the admin team. Even if they take action, they can at most block or ban the website in India, they won’t be able to trace or harass the people posting from Kashmir.

This is purely voluntary for now. The platform is small, but most Kashmiris, even me myself (tbh) are very frightened to take the idea forward without Pakistani mods. If you're someone with good judgment, patience, and who genuinely cares about Kashmir without pushing any particular agenda, please reach out.

DM me here on Reddit or we can move to Signal/Telegram for more details.

JazakAllah khair.

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u/Agreeable_Fruit_3298 — 5 days ago

KPK cabinet's new expansion brings the total to 31 members

But as expected, no noise and no hyping up by certain tabka that is always worried about other provinces' expenditure. They just more than doubled the cabinet members overnight for purely political gains.

u/InjectorTheGood — 5 days ago