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Answering most of the questions on this sub in one post + video demonstration

Answering most of the questions on this sub in one post + video demonstration

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  1. E2 Phainon > everything else, first and foremost. If you want to keep playing him long-term, that’s the first thing you should get. And yes, E2 Phainon still zero-cycles every mode except AS.

  2. Yes, you need Cerydra. She’s the BiS support because she provides a unique mechanic. Yes, she has some anti-synergy, but that’s normal Hoyo practice for strong characters. Fugue and Firefly are a perfect example of this.

  3. Yes, Cyrene is the second BiS. Yes, even at E0.

  4. E2 Cyrene is the best third investment after E2 Phainon and Cerydra. It changes the game so much that with E2 Phainon + E0 Cerydra + E2 Cyrene, you can clear all three Arbitration Knights with 3 stars. And honestly, E2 Cyrene is the best support in the game for any character. I even use her with Seele for Arbitration zero-cycles.

  5. Yes, Sparkle is better than Sunday. By a lot. E2DDD Sparkle > E6S1 Sunday

  6. Yes, Bronya is also better than Sunday. One stack literally means nothing.

  7. DDD, Vonwacq, and 160+ SPD supports are the best investments outside of pulling.

  8. The fourth slot. E1 Tribbie ≈ E2 Sparkle. One is for AoE content, the other is for ST and blast content.

  9. E1 Blade also works as the 4th slot, BUT only if you have E2 Cyrene.

  10. Yes. Pull Cyrene, especially if you have more than one Amphoreus DPS.

  11. No, don’t pull Sunday or his eidolons just for Phainon. If some useful novaflame appears later, you’ll be able to deal with it then. Pulling for a possible future is a VERY bad idea.

I think I answered most of the questions. You can be as mad about it as you want, but I’m talking about what’s best for Phainon. That’s all.

P.S. Yes, eagle set. The answer is always eagle set.

P.S. 2 No, the video isn’t mine.

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u/louchenii — 24 hours ago

How much of a DMG increase is Cerydra?

I'll be pulling for E2 Phainon now and I was wondering if I should invest in Cerydra or skip her for characters I like more (ie Blade)

And how much of a dmg% increase is cerydra for E1S1 Phainon vs E2S1 Phainon?

My current Phainon-team characters are:

- E1S1 Phainon

- E0S1 Cyrene

- E0S0 DHPT with s3 battlepass LC

- E0S1 Sunday

- E2S3 Bronya

- E1D5 Tribbie

- E6S5 RMC

- no sparkle

- no cerydra

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u/Lyri3sh — 23 hours ago

Is E2S1 Phainon worth investing horizontally in now?

My team is: E2S1 Phainon, E1S1 Cerydra, E0S1 Sunday, E0S1 DHPT / E1S5ddd Ruan Mei (I mostly play sustainless unless it’s anomaly arbitration bc I like fast clears)

The question is this: would it be a waste to pull Cyrene knowing I can only afford e0s0 ? I’ll be using hHacine’s sig for the speed and trying to get as much speed on her of course, but besides that, is e0s0 Cyrene a decent upgrade for him?

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u/ughchoi — 1 day ago

Taking The Ice Elation Meme WAY Too Literally, and Making a Kit

Exactly what it says on the tin.

Is this kit broken?

Probably.

Do I care?

What subreddit do you think you’re on?

One where Phainon WOULDN’T be made broken?

Here we go:

Phainon • Kryos Eirēnē

Ice-Elation

Primary Kit

Basic Attack - Rage, Cooled
Single Target
Regenerates 1 SP
Deal 100% of user’s Attack as Ice Damage. Gain one stack of ‘Emberless.’

Skill - Fury, Abated
AoE
Consumes 1 SP
Deal 120% of Attack as Ice Damage to all enemies. Gain three stacks of ‘Emberless,’ and grant 30% Merrymake to the user for 2 turns.

Enhanced Skill - Sunrise Over Snow
Bounce
Consumes 2 SP
Deal 40% of Attack as Ice Damage 6 times. Gain five stacks of ‘Flawless, Fatal.’ Grant 50% Merrymake to the user.

Ultimate - To We, Who Who At Long Last Exist
AoE
Costs 0 Energy
If the user has, at minimum, 12 stacks of ‘Emberless,’ you may activate this Ultimate, and clear all stacks of ‘Emberless.’ Deal 20% Ice Elation damage for each stack of ‘Emberless’ cleared in this way, distributed evenly among all enemies. Then, enter the ‘Agony, Frozen In A River’ state.
While in the ‘Agony, Frozen In A River’ state, each stack of ‘Emberless’ gained is immediately converted into 2 stacks of ‘Flawless, Fatal,’ and each time this character is targeted by an ally or enemy, gain 2 stacks of ‘Flawless, Fatal.’ Enhance Skill into ‘Sunrise Over Snow.’ Enhance Elation Skill into ‘The Nameless Hero: Khaslana.’ During this state, buffs can reduce in turns, but instead of expiring, are placed in the ‘Rekindled Dream’ state, preventing them from wearing off entirely, and freezing them at 0/1 turns remaining.

Talent - I Endured
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User gains stacks of ‘Emberless.’ Upon gaining 12 stacks, user may activate Ultimate.
Each stack of Emberless gained throughout the battle increases Elation by 5%, up to a maximum of 130%.
For ever 100 points of Attack over 2000, gain 4% Elation, up to a maximum of 80% Elation.
When the user takes action in any way, gain 1 stack of ‘Emberless.’ When the user is struck by an attack, gain 1 stack of ‘Emberless.’ Start battle with 5 stacks of ‘Emberless.’
During the battle, if the user possesses Certified Banger, deal 30% Ice Elation damage, and convert all Basic Attack and Skill Damage to equal Elation multiplier.

Elation Skill - That Worldbearer Kephale
-
Gain 5 stacks of Emberless and heal 40% Max HP.

Enhanced Elation Skill - The Nameless Hero: Khaslana
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For each stack of ‘Flawless, Fatal,’ increase Hits Per Action by 1. If the number of stacks exceeds 13, each stack increases Hits Per Action by 2 instead.
For each hit, deal 50% Ice Elation Damage, then 20% of the final damage as an additional instance of True Damage once to the enemy with the highest remaining HP. Remove all stacks of ‘Flawless, Fatal.’

TRACES AND EIDOLONS

28% Crit Damage
16% Crit Rate
25% Elation

A2 - Solar Minimum
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If user’s Crit Rate is 50% or higher, gain 15% Elation. For each additional 2.5% Crit Rate, gain 5% Elation, up to 100% Elation. If user’s Crit Rate is over 100% in battle, excess Crit Rate is converted into Crit Damage at a 2:1 Ratio.

A4 - Solar Maximum
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Upon entering battle, for each Chrysos Heir or Ice Character on the team, start with 1 additional stack of ‘Emberless.’ If this effect activates, gain 12% Merrymake for each such activation, up to three. This effect lasts 3 turn(s).

A6 - Cold Fusion
-
For each buff being affected by ‘Rekindled Dream,’ heal 5% maximum HP after attacking if user is in ‘Agony, Frozen In A River.’ Gain 30% Crit Rate.

E1 - Bitter Plastics, Crumble Away
-
Gain 20% Crit Rate. For each stack of ‘Emberless,’ gained in battle, increase Crit Rate by 5% for the remainder of the battle, up to 6 times.

E2 - I Will Shatter You All
-
After using ‘The Nameless Hero: Khaslana,’ immediately also cast ‘That Worldbearer Kephale.’ Immediately after casting ‘Sunrise Over Snow,’ additionally also cast ‘Fury, Abated.’ After casting any skill in this way, gain 4% Defense Ignore, up to 20%.

E4 - Creeping Up My Brain, Learning From My Pain
-
Double all HP Restored to the user. If the user dies while in ‘Agony, Frozen In a River,’ revive and heal 33,550,337 HP. This may occur once per battle.

E6 - Send Death To Isolation
-
Gain 30% All-Type Res Pen. Every time the user gains ‘Emberless,’ or ‘Flawless, Fatal,’ gain 1 additional stack of ‘Emberless.’ Gaining ‘Emberless’ or ‘Flawless, Fatal’ in battle increase Crit Damage by 10%, up to 300% for the rest of the battle. 15% of the user’s Crit Damage is converted into Elation in battle.

u/BrightEclipse13 — 1 day ago

What should I pull?

Currently the team I have with phainon is:

Phainon (E0 S0)

Cyrene (E0)

DHPT (E0)

Cerydra(E0)

Phainon being the only one with his light one.

And since next versión Phainon and Cyrene are coming back idk what to do, currently I have aprox 70 pity with guaranteed in characters, and 3 on light ones.

What do y'all recommend, or should I just save and try to get someone new on the future.

Also asking because of the new set that's coming out.

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u/Giru021 — 24 hours ago

Question regarding pulls and team for Phainon.

Hello,

So I wanted to ask which is a good way to go.

I have been just playing the game for 2 months now so I obviously missed all the banners for Phainon and majority of the heirs when I started pulling for limited banners after catching up with story.

I’ve been agonizing on whether to pull Sunday for Phainon as I want to pull for Phainon but because I’m new I obviously will have to plan a team for him as well. (I know u need cerydra … but she’s gonna have to wait till her banner…) I plan to use bronya temporarily.

I’m slowly building a mono rem team so I need Cyrene as well who I’m told is great with Phainon as well both need e2 for it to work tho if correct?

Having limited pulls is it worth pulling for Sunday for Phainon as I see he’s often used with Phainon.

Should I risk pulling Sunday first or get him after Phainon?.. should I prioritize e2 Phainon and e0 Cyrene cuz I don’t think I can do e2 for both when they are together. 😖

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u/KheiKhei09 — 1 day ago

He hits the same pose in 3.7 and 3.0

I just noticed he does the same shoulder pat when we defeat irontomb and when we first meet him

u/starfernx — 2 days ago

Who would be my best 4th slot?

First off, I want to thank any of the wise Phainon bros out there that can help me make a decision on the team building.

I figured that Cyrene will be getting her rerun pretty soon, and I have saved up enough to guarantee getting her E2 (S1 as well if I get some early wins). I have E2S1 Phainon (the GOAT) and E1S1 Ceydra (the "Madara" cheat code), but I'm not sure who the 4th slot should be with my available characters.

My choices being E2S1 DHPT (best Star Rail bro), E1S1 Sparkle (on Archer team, but she can be P-team material with the buff), or RMC (who right now is on the SW999 team as elation, but its just a placeholder).

What's the route I should be looking at? All advice is welcome!

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u/Ok_Interview_251 — 1 day ago
▲ 334 r/PhainonMainsHSR+1 crossposts

WIP Phainon-art

Never thought I’d share my art here but I might as well sprinkle my account here some colors lmao

——— not the full canvas ‘cuz it’s *ahem NSFW-art😆

u/Kairoou — 2 days ago

Pienon has won the poll (exclusive animated avatar confirmed)

Thank you all for your contributing! My.... even though this poll was literally problematic asf I'm glad it's finally come to an end 😭

Anyway he will get a special animated Hoyolab avatar if I'm not wrong, congrats phaination

u/Khaisha_33550 — 3 days ago