r/PuyallupWA

But if you are a 55+ male that's just fine :)

"Old Guys getting Coffee"

Sunday at 11:00

The Starbucks at:

10219 132nd St E
Puyallup, WA 98374
United States

Hi!
I never post on here, I usually browse, but every time I see someone else move into these apartments I genuinely feel bad for them so I thought I would share.

The 207 East apartments in Edgewood are the worst. I have lived in these apartments for a little bit now and I cannot wait for my lease to be up. I have had several poor experiences here.

To start, don’t expect the rent amount to be the actual price you pay each month. There are the normal add ons like utilities, but they also love to throw on several “miscellaneous” charges each month and refuse to tell you why. And don’t even bother calling, you’ll be talking to a robot.

They are “luxury” apartments that are in a “safe community” but that’s a lie. Their security barely comes through. I had someone vandalize my car and there is no surveillance anywhere, nor does their security actually do anything. To add on to that, I’m not allowed to have a ring camera because it’s an “invasion of privacy” to my neighbors, even though i have seen most of my neighbors put one up before they’re told the same thing. My packages always get stolen, random people pound on my door, and people try to break into cars here often. (I have seen people post on the ring app of their teslas recording attempted break ins more than once) Quite frankly I don’t feel safe living here.

There is NO parking. They don’t have as many spaces as they do units and I’m sure it’s so you’ll cave and buy a covered spot or garage, when they already charge an arm and a leg for you to live there in the first place. But don’t bother leaving past 7pm because you might have to park at Starbucks when you come home if you don’t want your car towed!

And lastly, their maintenance team sucks. It is a bunch of young men who work there for cheap living and couldn’t care less about their job. Since living here, I have had two ongoing maintenance issues. I have added maintenance requests twice now where they will mark it as resolved when no one ever even came to look at it. But even when they do come to “fix” it, the repair lasts for maybe a week or two before the same thing happens again.

At the end of the day this is a huge lesson learned for me when apartment hunting in the future, and I hope for some of you too, so you don’t find yourself in this situation.

Has anyone else had similar experiences here?

going to be moving soon, does anyone know where i could get free moving boxes?

He was a devout Christian. Where might have the relentless pressure to provide come from?

See comments for screenshot with his mom's comments!

Does anyone know where one could get a medical marijuana card by Friday?

Hello everyone. I'm relocating from the pit of flames known as Florida and was trying to find some apartments in the area. I decided to post here to see if anyone knew any small non corporate apartments I could call and look at.

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TLDR: Sky King was heavily into his faith which puts a lot of pressure on men to provide for their families. His specific church believed this and those around him did and this apparent fact has never been deeply explored, especially by the FBI. By not exploring it, we leave many stones unturned and potentially don’t understand the source of his pain, which could hurt other men.

Most people think they know the story of Richard “Beebo” Russell. I have been following this sad tale ever since it happened, since it is at the intersection of aviation and faith, two topics that I have long been interested in. In case anyone is wondering, my interest preceded the recent Hulu documentary, which I did watch with great interest.

I often find in life, like the late and highly controversial Donald Rumsfeld, that sometimes you have to look at what is not said, what questions are not asked, and consider what you do not know.

“As we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know,” Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, 2002. Now I’m not a fan of Rumsfeld, but he is on to something here. Sometimes there are hidden truths in the unknown. Things that are important to understand, but are missing. The worst offenders are those things we need to know but do not know.

The story of Beebo goes like this. On August 10, 2018, a Horizon Air (Alaska Air owned) employee ground service employee named Richard “Beebo” Russell, stole a Bombardier Q400 commuter turboprop from Sea-Tac Airport. For 75 minutes, he flew around the Seattle area, before intentionally crashing into a remote island. The FBI issued a 567 page report into the matter, which was very serious, because while he was in the air, nobody knew his intentions, beyond what he was verbally saying, which was to not harm anyone. The FBI concluded that there was no single reason for his actions - but bear in mind, this was the 2018 FBI, and it is known that this was an FBI very reluctant to look at certain things, particularly Christianity.

During the flight, Beebo complained about the hard life of a ramp service worker briefly, had fun at times, but also said he was just a broken guy with a few screws loose. He also reportedly texted his wife that she deserves better.

We know that Beebo had owned a bakery with his wife Hannah Russell before selling it to be closer to Hannah’s family, the Stracener family of Sumner, Washington. We also know that he attended Gateway Chapel in Sumner, Washington, headed by Pastor David Odell, who was asked in the aftermath not to speak about Richard Russell. This is just one of many instances of the Hannah’s family, the Straceners, being secretive. They also declined to participate in the recent Hulu documentary and Hannah herself cut off contact with Beebo’s family, or so it has been reported. The Straceners are very quiet and Hannah has never given a direct interview, which is strange in cases like this.

“David Odell, pastor at Russell’s Auburn church, also declined to discuss Russell, citing the family’s wishes. “In the statement where it says it’s a complete shock, it’s just 100 percent true,” Odell said, as reported in the Seattle Times.

So everyone thinks that Beebo simply snapped and took a plan for a joyride. However, I propose this theory, based on the evidence:

Beebo and Hannah meet at a church function in Oregon when they are both going to school.

They get married.

They are both heavily involved in evangelical christianity, including CRU, Young Life and later Gateway Church, a small church that bounces around Washington before settling in Sumner, Washington, where Hannah’s family lives. The pastor at the time that Beebo and Hannah are attending is David Odell.

Beebo and Hannah are running a bakery in North Bend, Oregon. Eventually, they sell to be closer to Hannah’s family in Sumner, Washington. Beebo had wanted to move to Alaska, but Hannah was not on board.

Beebo goes from being a respected business owner, to being a low paid ground service agent for Horizon, making literally less than a McDonald’s worker.. As I will lay out as you read on, this created stress for Beebo, because his faith calls him to be a provider. “But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever,” 1 Timothy 5:8

Hannah’s family and the church and perhaps Hannah herself, pressure Beebo to be more than he is, and this pressure, along with working like an absolute dog at the airport, drive him to end it all. He was a bit of a goofy guy, married to a perfectionist (this was reported in interviews about their bakery in Oregon) and was crushed by the weight of the church’s expectations and perhaps the Stracener family.

So why should we care? There are approximately 80 million Christian men in the United States. In my own personal dealings with these men, many are somewhat reserved, and it is clear to me, since some have been my friends, that more lies beneath. As the economy continues to crush men (and women) it will be harder and harder for these men to make the grade called upon by their faith and those around them. Traditional families were often built under economic conditions that were possible in the past, but due to the relentless desire of the 1 percent to extract as much value out of us peons as possible, success is not always possible at the same level as it was for those men’s role models.

I now need to back up my theory, which to be clear is just that, a theory. Had the FBI done the type of job they would have done if Beebo was Muslim, for example, or even Sheik, we would not be here right now.

David Odell was, according to the Seattle Times, Beebo’s pastor. So what does David believe? What was he filling Beebo and Hannah’s head with? Fortunately, dear reader, we can get a good sense of this from Calvary Church in The Dalles, Oregon, where he is the head pastor today.

“We believe the Bible is God’s absolute, objective truth for all people for all times. It is without error in concept or detail in the original writings. It is breathed out in its entirety by God, divinely preserved, and, therefore, trustworthy,” reads the church’s website. Message me for links if you like, Reddit does not play nice with links so I don’t include them here. What Odell’s church is saying, is that everything in the Bible should be taken literally. This means when 1st Timorthy told Beebo that he was a worse than a non-believer for not providing enough, that was absolute truth. This might be why Beebo messaged Hannah mid-flight that she “deserved better.”

A sermon of Odell’s church where he is head pastor stated a year ago that men have a “responsibility to lead protect and provide for his wife.” There really is no daylight here in faiths that practice biblical literalness. The man MUST provide and that is a primary way in which he is judged. Beebo likely felt judged and that here was a test, from on high, that he was failing.

The church where Beebo’s funeral was held in August 2018, also believes in the same things. Lighthouse Christian Center recommends Stu Weber’s book, Four Pillars of a Man’s Heart, which pushes men hard to be “kings” of their own domain, which is their family and home. Loading bags onto planes does not accomplish this. Beebo was working at Horizon primarily for free flights to Alaska, where his family was. It’s not hard to imagine a traditional God fearing family like the Straceners being ashamed of a husband who works alongside the “dregs” of society in their eyes to make a pittance loading baggage.

What is the point of this? To suggest that Beebo’s story is not just about low pay, but about how faith often fails those who are mentally ill. You can’t pray away depression, at least not in a lasting way. Beebo needed help, and those who were around him, especially on Hannah’s side, may not have been ready to provide. Or I could be totally one hundred percent wrong here. This is also possible. But I doubt I’m not at least somewhat right. There should be a reckoning in the Christian community based on this and other incidents. But that cannot happen if people can’t talk freely, if they can’t question the bible, and if they hide behind a wall of silence, as it appears the Straceners are doing right now. Saying he was just a guy who snapped is likely leaving out the very important nuance of the environment that created his mindset. It deserves exploration. So what are the remaining mysteries?

1. Did the Straceners put pressure on Beebo? Do they know this and that is why they are so silent?

2. Did Hannah herself pressure him?

3. Did Beebo's church make him feel like a failure as a MAN?

I think I know the answers. What do you think?

Looking for recommendations for exterior house painter.

We are new to the area and my wife and child are gluten sensitive. What are y'all's favorite Gluten free fast food or sit down restaurants? (Special shout out to Happy Teriyaki 11 who has been our favorite so far)

I went to a downtown area dry cleaner last year and spent $40 to hem jeans that weren’t even worth that much 😫

Looking for recommendations on the cheapest place to get some jeans hemmed- doesn’t need to be original hem! Thank you!

10% of the value of your car! This is my second year in Pierce County, previously lived in Yakima County. I have a 2022 highlander valued around $40,000. I got a shock last year when renewal was $400. I really feel bad for a family with couple of new trucks or SUVs.

What frustrates me that many of us might be not alive or living in the county by 2035. Why am I finding a light rail project that I may never use or need?

Rant over.

PS: brutally reminded that it’s 1%

We are Catan addicts, also new in town. We have Dice Catan, Rivals for Catan, and now we have the big box version that ideally needs 3-4 players.

I know nobody is supposed to talk about it, but can anyone drop subtle clues as to any Catan clubs in the local (Shaw Road, Sumner) area who are looking for players?

I'll be putting Catan on the Road in my Amazon cart while I wait for responses, which are appreciated!

can you guys recommend coffee orders and shops to try please? Before moving here I was used to Starbucks and Dunkin. I’ve tried the mythical from big foot and an ice vanilla latte from cool bean. I enjoy drinks a bit on the sweeter side or an iced Vietnamese coffee.

New in town, trying to get acclimated. We haven't had the greatest luck ordering Chinese food, and finally found a decent place in Bonney Lake. Anything closer to home? TIA!

I need to replace my dishwasher, range, and above range microwave and I'm looking for some recommendations on appliance shops. I know I can go through Lowe's, Home Depot, or Costco but does anyone know of a local appliance shop that's worth checking out?