I absolutely love the original PJO series, just finished re-reading it actually. But I'm just stuck on Heroes of Olympus. Lost Hero and Son of Neptune weren't bad. I thought Lost Hero was kind of slow, but really enjoyed SON. But I'm about halfway through Mark of Athena (on the part where Annabeth is in the sewer system. At least I think that's what it is) and I just can't get into it. I abandoned it a few months ago with the intention of coming back to it, but lost interest. I really want to read the series because it's gotten so much hype. I've heard the ending of MOA is great, but the rest of it has me in a slump.

Is MOA, and the whole series I guess, worth pushing through or is the fandom overhyping it?

edit: thank everyone for not telling me about the amazing "cliff hanger" that MOA ends on. i expected at least half the comments to say that

im going to roughly calculate the argo II and members bounties.

in the mark of athena leo asks how much hes going for:

>"two maybe three franks?"

my personal list of rankings before i calculate

1 percy
duh, toppled kronos, the son of poseidon, praetor of camp jupiter, most preferred by gaia for the blood sacrifice, "such bravado"

2 annabeth
i have her this high because in the end gaia needs two, a male and female, which is strongly wanted percy and annabeth to be the sacrificial lambs. also hunting down the athena parthenos, which were "the giants bane"

3 jason/frank
i have frank this high due to his stacked bloodline, descendant of neptune, prince of pylos, son of mars, blah blah, though im being kinda lenient, as gaia said hazel and frank "would have to do"

4 leo
this high due to being the captain of the Argo II, first son of heppie to use fire in... 300 years?

5 hazel
not as high as the others since she, like frank "would have to do" assuming gaia didnt want her nearly as much as percy/annabeth.

7 piper
weakest in the argo team, child of aphrodite, but the horn of plenty is pretty valuable

calculations:

in ancient greece, bounties on legendary demigods were based off kingdoms. an average kingdom was worth around 2,500 talents.

1 TALENT ~ 6,000 SILVER DRACHMAS

athens at its peak was worth nearly 10 000 talents.

member talents drachmas

percy 15 000 90 000 000

annabeth 12 500 75 000 000

jason 11 000 66 000 000

frank 11 000 66 000 000

leo 7 000 42 000 000

hazel 6 500 39 000 000

piper 5 000 30 000 000

grand total: 68 000 talents (408 000 000 drachmas)

thanks for reading.

The scene when Percy controls the poisons and chokes Akhlys is one of the most powerful scenes and would make a very entertaining what if series where Percy kills Akhlys and slowly falls to his dark side and uses these abilities to rapidly turn the war on gaea in the favour of the seven

Hey everyone, I’m HappyGrovverAndPlagg. I really need to vent to this community because I haven’t told anyone in my family about how deep my current obsession goes. You guys are my safe space right now, and I genuinely need your thoughts and advice.A bit of background: I first read TLT in 6th grade but didn't look back. Last year (8th grade), my friends kept hyping up the mythology and the series, so I dove headfirst into PJO. Lately, this hyperfixation has hit me like a truck. Specifically, Grover Underwood. Last year, I bought the entire HOO series just to see him, and the fact that he was barely in it left me so disappointed and frustrated.Right now, I am completely obsessed with the TV show. The movies were terrible at first—they made Grover a total joke—though now I can watch the first movie purely as an alternate universe comedy. But the Disney+ show? Watching it gives me this weird mix of shock, excitement, and sometimes letdown. The show feels a bit cold and severe compared to the books, especially with the action sequences, but it has become my ultimate comfort zone. I’ve been stuck in this loophole of rewatching scenes for days.I don't have this unhealthy obsession with the original books because reading them feels like a warm, genuine connection. But the show—despite its colder tone—triggered this perfectionist obsession in me.To me, Grover is easily one of the most important characters in the universe, but he is also a massive victim of Rick Riordan's writing focus.Why Grover is elite:If he hadn't found Percy at Yancy Academy, the entire series wouldn't even exist.He was Thalia’s protector and took that heavy burden.He found Nico and Bianca di Angelo. Finding two demigods at once is insanely rare.He actually found Pan and was chosen by him.He became the Lord of the Wild, a member of the Council, and a genuine leader.Why he is a victim of the plot:The series focuses so much on demigods that satyrs, cyclopes, and centaurs feel completely nerfed. It makes me so mad that Grover is always portrayed as weak in combat.In HOO, he had the resources of the Wild to help the Seven, but he got replaced by Coach Hedge. I don't hate Hedge, but his aggressive nature just made me miss Grover's empathy.I feel like Grover's protector skills are heavily underappreciated. People blame him for Thalia, but he was protecting three demigods at once without abandoning anyone. (And honestly, they were right next to the camp. Thalia chose to stand and fight; Grover didn't fail her. Don't hate me, but logistically, it's true.)He endured Yancy Academy and bullies like Nancy just to keep Percy safe. He literally went to the Underworld hoping to find Pan.Even in the show, the Medusa scene where he flies away and misses her completely ruined the book dynamic for me, where he actually tries to help avenge his Uncle Ferdinand.By TLO, his screen time started shrinking, and HOO completely sidelined him. Thankfully, I managed to read the PDFs of The Burning Maze (ToA) and The Chalice of the Gods (CotG) to get my closure. HOO simply has too many characters and plotlines; it always makes me homesick for the intimacy of PJO.I really need to read your opinions on this to help clear my head.Do you think Grover is weak just because he represents nature, or is he a genuinely great but sidelined character?How do you feel about the PJO vs. HOO character dynamics?What roles do you think Grover should have played in HOO?What are your overall thoughts on Grover?Lastly, as someone with a perfectionist mindset, how do I break out of this intense show/character obsession?Thanks for reading. Love you guys.