r/SR17018

I’m really hoping to hear from anyone who’s been through something similar because I’m so frustrated and starting to lose hope a little.
Quick background: I was using /“7’s” for about 8 mo (4/25-12/25) and was put on Suboxone to get off of them. I recently used SR-17 to finally get off the Subs. I tapered the SR down and have now been completely off SR for about 5 days and today is day 25 with NO Suboxone.
I REALLY want to stay off Subs, but I’m still having some incredibly uncomfortable symptoms and I’m assuming this is still lingering Sub withdrawal or maybe PAWS, I’m still not clear on how PAWS presents.
The biggest things right now are:
Severe skin sensitivity — probably the weirdest and most uncomfortable symptom. My skin feels raw/extremely sensitive to touch, almost like a bad sunburn without actually being burned.
Extreme fatigue — I can do a couple normal chores and then feel like I desperately need a nap. I’m taking a couple naps some days AND sleeping a lot at night. I can usually push through feeling crappy, but this fatigue is kicking my ass.
Constant adrenaline/drop feeling — the best way I can describe it is that feeling you get standing at the edge of a really high building and looking down, except my body feels like that for HOURS. It’s not necessarily that I’m mentally anxious about something; my body just has that constant adrenaline/falling feeling.
Restless legs were pretty uncomfortable too, although my doctor gave me clonidine and that actually seems to be helping quite a bit.
One other strange thing: the skin sensitivity and adrenaline feeling tend to ramp up in the evening and get worse into the night, then they’re MUCH milder in the morning.
I worked nights when I was taking 7’s and typically took them between roughly 6 PM–4 AM, so I can’t help wondering if my body somehow still associates that time of day with when it was used to getting its fix. I have no idea if there’s actually anything to that, but the timing is remarkably consistent.
For anyone who has come off Suboxone/buprenorphine especially after 7-OH or using SR-17 did you experience anything like this around weeks 3–4? Particularly the raw/sensitive skin, crushing fatigue, or that awful adrenaline/drop sensation?
When did you finally start feeling noticeably better?
And if anything helped you get through this stage — medication, supplements, exercise, sleep, literally ANYTHING — I would love to hear it.
I’m just desperate to feel a little bit normal again and could really use some hope that there’s a light at the end of this. ❤️

So today is day ten of my SR taper and want to jump off completely in the next day or two. My question is about MIT. I used a liquid shot of one today due to the unbearable anxiety I’m experiencing that benzos aren’t even touching and it cleared it up almost immediately. My question is if I add some mit for a couple days here at my jump off, will it cause additional WDs I’ll have to cope with or how can it best be used to help navigate this.
I had only been using 7OH regularly for about two and a half months before kicking, so there’s a lot about the kratom extract world I know nothing about. I just want to get through this detox as quickly and easily as possible and don’t want to make matters worse using something else to help that’s just going to add an additional issue

Im curious how long people have used SR. How long have you gone taking it? If you felt WD symptoms from SR, what were they like? How long was it before you felt WD from SR?

Im currently at 2 weeks and i have not quit 7. Im thinking i should just quit the SR but im so ready to quit 7. If im ok to keep going and quit 7 I want to but if I should quit for a lil while than I guess ill do that.

I have just over 8 grams so I guess technically I could have enough to do a long taper if I do feel some WD.

I'm starting to get REALLY desperate wanting these WDs to go away. I don't need to be told how stupid I was and what I SHOULD'VE DONE. The time for that has passed. I took SR for a total of 18 days ( too long) with my ending dose being 250mg's. I ABSOLUTELY know that u are supposed to taper down to a really low dose before stopping......I KNOW THAT. But I didn't. Trying to find anyone that has gone thru SR withdrawal. What I'm experiencing right now is not just minor symptoms. It's akathisia, extreme hot flashes, cold feeling, excessive sweating. It's been 10 days since I last had a dose of SR. REALLY curious how much longer I have to go thru this. Originally I started taking SR to quit high dose 7oh AND buprenorphine. Things were going well while using SR. I've done all that for absolutely nothing, because the only thing that makes these WDs go away is 7oh and buprenorphine together. I could possibly be the dumbest man alive right now. I deeply regret everything I've done

It would be hard to properly share how much pain, anxiety and fear that I have been operating under for the past few months. The horrible, terrible despair. I was sober [from alcohol and everything else] for decades. Then, during Covid, I found an awesome Kratom and Kava shot from a company called SoJ. I really enjoyed these, without any issues, and had two a day for 5 years until they were banned in my State.

In the process of replacing these, I found 7OH at a smoke shop on the border. Within 1 month, I was a full-blown addict in the heavy throes of active addiction: The fear, the money, the shame, the hopelessness, the panic, the misery, the feelings of dread and impending doom. I was a slave to the least version of myself, and even that wasn't going to be enough as the next bans came in. I started going to appointments for a doctor to help, a rehap, etc and I could tell they didn't get it. The walls were closing in. fast.

I started watching something called the Recovery Room or something with Mandi over on TikTok and it was the first thing in a long time that resonated with me. These people understood what I was going through, AND MORE, they had a solution [and the solution was being banned too lol]. Conflicting emotions on that one. I learned everything I could about SR-17018 and started ordering the tablets, the kits, the supplements [I was lurking in Reddit when the first liposomal vitamin c guide with SR came out]. That dude and the girl - saved me. As soon as I had all my supplies and had worked up the courage - I started 'front-loading'.

A week later: I am running with my dog at the water, suddenly aware that the incessant noise in my brain had stopped. Everything, and I mean everything, about life is 100% better and there was no reason for me to be so trapped just months ago.

I write this for the person scared that it might not work for them, or the one feeling shame like they did something wrong. F$#& that!!! You are a wonderful human being who got caught in an evil cycle by evil people and you are as deserving of the new life that lays ahead of you as anyone else would be.

Go and claim it!!!!!

I love you all [nice to feel love again - in addition to all the other emotions we stuff down].

Things are so bad in my life, I didn't quit 7 & Emily together in the first sr run like I should have. I only quit Emily, I'm now about 4 days/98hrs totally off em! But, I still take a lot of 7, actually ramped my tolerance using it to quit Emily. I took sr for only 4-5 days, it did help boost my Emily quit, but I stopped taking it when I realized I wasn't lowering 7 alongside dropping Emily. I'm ready now to quit 7 now with a normal full sr taper. I have to, my life is about to end if I don't. So how long do we have to wait between attempts, especially if I only took if for 5ish days, rather than a full taper regimen? Is say 5-6 days off sr enough to try again to now stop the 7? I appreciate any answers.

Also I promise I tried searching to find someone else asking this before, to not flood the feed with similar stuff, I couldn't find any posts about it. Either I'm not asking in the search bar the right way, I'm so frazzled, idk. Being 4 days off Emily is really messing with my head, and now having been on extra 7 to cope with that the past few days. I just want to get back on sr like now! I know I messed up not doing it all at once, my life is a mess & I have no support, actually the opposite. So I stupidly kept using 7 full speed during my pre load & taper phase, despite quitting Em, which is why I just stopped sr on day 5 to not totally ruin it for the future! Thank you guys so much for your time & any advice/answers!

I had a much more elaborate post written out but it didn’t stay up for some reason. I’ll make this one shorter and try keeping the main points. I was a 2yr 200 mg 7OH user. Note that it was only that high for the past 3-4 months or so. I have decided to try sr. I started taking 50mg around 5pm yesterday then another 50 before bed. I tried to skip my late night 7OH dose and woke up around 3am sweating bad and having very vivid dreams. Took a lil 7 and went back to sleep. Today I dropped my daughter off at babysitter and took 50mg sr. Felt ok better than I thought but then the anxiety and depression kicked in. I tried to just take sr and took 50mg more around 2pm. As well as 20mg 7oh. The depression didn’t go away so I took 50mg more sr around 4pm along with 20mg 7oh. Still the depression didn’t subside. The physical withdrawal has been minimal other than sweats and not much appetite plus fatigue. But I’ve definitely been feeling the anxiety/depression. I took 20mg more 7oh just now and finally feel a little better but I’m a little freaked out about the sr. I’m wondering if I should just taper. To be fair the fact that I’ve only taken 60mg 7oh today is nothing short of a miracle to where I was at before the sr. But I never heard other ppl talking about experiencing depression while introducing the SR. Did I cut back the 7 too quick?? Should I continue with what I’m doing tomorrow?? I plan to take 20mg more 7oh tn before bed along with 50mg SR. Bringing my day (1.5) total to 200mg sr and 80mg 7OH. I just don’t want to experience the depression/ anxiety feeling again tomorrow. Should I slow my 7 taper or try to jump off tomorrow if I’m not feeling the depression?? How long before I taper the SR. Is it possible the sr just doesn’t agree with me and that’s why I got depressed so quick?? Thank you and sorry if this post is hard to follow. I had a well thought out better worded post sent earlier but it got taken down I’m assuming for mentioning where I got my SR?? Please respond with some advice I’m afraid that a took a research chemical that permanently messed up my dopamine or something. I’d like advice on if I should just stop the sr if that was what I was experiencing. Or maybe I just tried to cut my 7dose to low too quickly??

Any directions yall can point me towards. Id be truly grateful. Worried I cant be helped because of the very long half life. Just want the hope. I get a months take homes at a time, so could I feasably get this done in between my take home schedule?

day 5 sr coming off 50mg emgee and 450mg 7 daily.

so rough today, took small 7mg dose of 7 on top of 300mg sr. I just cannot get to zero. yesterday was same. I wanted so bad to be at zero spend 3 days hold and be totally off 9-10 days max but looks like it may run a bit longer.

im thinking it’s the mgm. tail that my body is getting over now and why im having such a hard time, hoping tomorrow is a breakthrough day.

any thoughts or words of encouragement? thanks!!

I had an Opia High Potency kratom extract tablet 240mg a tablet/960mg a pack. Towards the end, I would do a pack a day, maybe a little less. People are unsure of what is actually in them because the high is crazy strong and the withdrawal is like anything other. Many people try to use Suboxone to withdraw from it and have said the subs don’t touch it. Someone mentioned SR and I was so grateful! I preloaded for 2 days and then made the jump today, day 3 and I am struggling. I thought I was doing so good and was able to reduce my kratom usage quick without it hurting. I was more so just feeling tempted and bored by now day three I am starting to feel significantly worse. I should’ve listened to the people that said take 100 mg doses the first day you jump my first two doses today are only 50 mg. Feel uncomfortable and panicked and like I was sliding backwards, so I decided to take a 100 mg dose of SR. Hoping this helps kick the chills, back pain, irritability, and anxiousness I do have lip vit c and l-theanine. Any advice on how much to take of those and when would be great. Any base on how to continue using the SR to help my withdrawal. I know the point is trying to be on the least amount of SR for the least amount time possible. Does day 2 really get that much better? Should I be taking more SR or frequently? I feel like they can be conflicting information on what schedule to take for a follow. Some people say to check in every couple hours and dose and I’ve heard other say to not dose sooner than every six hours, but really want to reach for 12 hour intervals. Below is the schedule I’ve been on for the last two days and today makes day 3.

Sunday: preload day 1
- 1am 3/4 heat
- 2:13am i1/4 heat
- 10:15 3/4 heat 50mg sr
- 2:30 3/4 heat 50mg sr
- 8pm: heat tab and 50mg sr
- 11:45pm: 3/4 tab

Monday: preload day 2 50% kratom
- 8:25 50mg sr
- 10:20 3/4 heat
- 2:45 3/4 heat
- 6:45 50mg sr
- 10:00 heat tab (1:45b1/2)

Tuesday: day 1 no kratom
- 1:45am 50mg sr
- 8:30am 50mg sr
- 10:15am 50mg sr
-1:50pm 100mg sr

Feeling pretty blehhh right now. Having some decent anxiety and feeling of panic. NBack hurts, i have a some of the skin crawling and clammy sweats. Any advice? When can i take sr again? Feeling some anxiety come on too. I am supposed to be getting some gabapentin. Will that help or just mess things up? I want to be on the other side of this so bad.

It is really great to still see the community thriving and people using SR-17018 to get off opiates and turn their lives around. It literally brings tears to my eyes.

When I started this subreddit there were only a few reddit comments about SR working to stop the suffering from opiate withdrawals…. Now there are thousands of reports of people using it to get off of opiates without suffering from the terrible withdrawals. There is more proof here than most clinical trials, and I hope that this evidence will lead to the real clinical trials so that this compound can reach the people through traditional channels, inpatient and outpatient programs, etc.

It really was u/saybecks who started it all with her master doc. I just happened to start the subreddit. Without her putting that together, this subreddit simply wouldn't have grown into the life-changing community it is today. Thank you, Becks, for being the brilliant woman you are and for having the courage to document and share your experience with the world and take the risk of talking to a NTY report (also a fuck you to the NYT for putting an evil spin on this life saving compound). It’s all love in this post except for the lying back stabbing prick, Matt Richtel, who has zero journalistic integrity and publishing an article that didn’t accurately display Becks true account of the compound.

Thank you Becks for being the genius women that you are and for having the courage to document and share your experience.

When the ban was announced, a lot do work was done to try and save it, and it is still being done. I do have hope that the DEA will back off of the announced schedule 1 placement.

Thank you to all the moderators long the way who kept this community alive, and thank you to all of the people who took the time time write up your success stories and then go on and try to help others.

The mod team:
U/ u/inspire_recover
u/suilune+ u/Suilune2
u/togetherapestrong-
u/standarddatabase1130

There’s more as well, sorry if you didn’t get listed.

For the near future, I will be not be checking Reddit. I need to focus on my own mental health and well being.

I hope that you all are able to use this subreddit and the thousands of accounts of how to use this life saving compound to turn a new leaf and make positive change in your own life. Remember, SR is just step 1 in the journey. The real work begins after you are off of it.

Bye for now ❤️

Many blessings and much Love
Phil

PS. Take some Iboga (where it’s legal and doctors are supervising) I wouldn’t have been able to do this without the life saving work done in Costa Rica at Root and Wisdom.

I’m not sure if I even bought enough.. I have like 3 80mg 7oh pills left and I don’t know where to start with sr17. I don’t take much 7oh compared to all the posts I’ve found on how to take it. I usually only take 30-50mg a day of 7oh any help would be appreciated.

I’ve been taking 7oh heavily for a few months. Up to 400mg a day, I’ve been able to taper down to around 70mg a day with the help of regular leaf. Some days I may only take 30mg. I bought some sr online from the first website that popped up. I have about 16, 50mg tablets and I’m wondering if that will be enough to get off of 70h and kratom entirely over the next week. Will it really completely eliminate or atleast greatly reduce the brutal withdrawals ?

I have a neurological pain condition that is supposed to be the worst pain known to man. I thought 7-oh and mgm-15 were like miracle drugs. But now my flare is over and i cant get off the stuff without soaking my bed with sweats, and having horrendous arthritis that could make my pain condition return.

I only take 12mg 7-oh a few times a day on some days, rarely... and mostly take 10mg mgm-15 3 times a day.

I see lots of posts of people taking way more and how to dose to get off, but nothing on the smaller doses i take.

Can anyone point me to a schedule to get off small doses?

I have 75 25mg sr-17018 tabs. I was hoping to get off everythkng in 1-2 weeks, or even sooner

Thanks. I think the government is really trying to make us sick people end ourselves by taking away all means to safely treat extreme pain and get off the meds when its over. I never wanted to get high... just not suffer.

This may be just as wild news as SR to a lot of you(and I was hesitant to post this because I don't want anyone doing anything stupid like I did to escape the inevitable) but right around 10 years ago I discovered the "Imodium hack"(that's just what I called it at the time. I quit doing h as soon as I caught wind on fent showing up in the supply and for that I am thankful that I discovered taking loperamide would cover my withdrawal symptoms.
I don't care to share how much I took to get over initial withdrawal but I can say it was way before knew of the cardio risks. But I will say that I have been stable for several years on a much lower dose 2x per day and obviously I know this is still very risky so please don't spike my anxiety any more than it already is. I'm aware. And it's why I'm here. Just found out about SR just now. I will also say I have been back and forth from loperamide to kratom many times just to change things up, and well what do ya know, I'm in a state that just got the kratom ban, and somehow as much time as I spend on the internet, I had no clue until about 2 weeks before the ban date (jul1).

Short version, yeah believe it or not if I don't take my regular dose day one is ok just a bit of anxiety because I know day two is gonna suck and yep by the 4th day full blown wd and unfortunately the long ass half-life is reflected by way of a brutal withdrawal that I've tried to ct many times and it's rough. Idk if it's the actual severity of it or the fact that a trip to just about any store that sells otc anything is enough to make me feel "normal". Other than that minor inconvenience, I was able to walk away from street stuff much easier than methadone or sub maintenance. But this SR gives me hope. I think

I'm more so just throwing out a line to see if there's ANYONE out here that has made this very specific transition? If yes, I'm down to chat numbers, schedules, suggestions. Or if you even have any insight at all regarding anything remotely similar to loperamide. Although I know of none.

Please do not even consider going this route btw. It's not good. And I don't care to discuss that, I just want it behind me .

I just bought 3000 mg online. I am new with this stuff and I’m wondering if I should’ve gotten more.

I’m currently taking 1500 to 2000 mg a day of limitless,the platinum edition, I know it contains something different than just 7 , so I’m really just wondering what helped you guys out and what method you used to get off of this bs … I have over 5 g of S r and just want to hear some encouragement on what helped you guys

Hello. I was taking a moderate amount of Kratom for about a year, then I switched to 7 for 3 months getting up to roughly 600mg/day. I tapered to 300mg over one week then started SR. I preloaded for 2 days with 100mg sr every 8 hours rapidly reducing my 7 on day two. On the 3rd day I was off of 7 and had absolutely no withdrawals. I took 100mg/day sr for 3 days then tapered the sr to 0 over the next 5 days. I was on SR for around 10 days total. 2 days after stopping SR I began to get anxiety and couldn’t sleep, I lasted 7 days, it felt like I would never sleep and the anxiety was intense so I started using plain leaf. I had no crazy acute withdraw symptoms like I had coming off of boy years ago, but the PAWs or whatever were just as bad. Now I will stabilize on Kratom and try again with SR in a month or so. Unfortunately it wasn’t as painless as I was hoping. Good luck everyone, and please report back after you are off of SR for a few days, that is the hardest part. If you are taking time off of work I would schedule it for then.

Hey guys I’m 6 days off 7oh with just plain leaf about 15g a day, should I try this sr17 that I have right now or just stick with the leaf?

So ive got soon but want to wait til my next paycheck to buy more SR. How long do we have, i saw a post about 60-180 days? or are we just waiting on word and it could be banned asap?