With the new stripper clips and its nearly unlimited ammo supply it seems the R-2124 Constitution could now have enough uptime for a support/defensive style role.
Now dont just consider firepower and ammo, look at the free backpack slot you get, meaning you can pair it with a mobility pack(warp, jetpack, hover) or a gaurd dog.
Currently, my build is focused towards bots and the Stoker is just for a good fast cannon fodder killing with an option to roast bugs and calamari and the bolt pistol for being the best secondary I’ve ever used against pretty much any unit that is about the same dangerous level as a berserker or devastator because it two shots them and the thermite is just for spawners or those ultra heavy enemies while stealth just keeps the ability for ambush and so far it feels very smooth but one thing I forgot to take a picture was my stratagems which are the ballistic shield because it’s quite useful, especially when all of my weapons are one handed, an eagle 500kg, a eagle airstrike, in my fourth line is just whatever usually something like a leveller or whatever
If there is a question mark next to the name that means I'm either not super familiar with the weapon or suggesting a buff is just a dubious proposition. This is partly just going off vibes but if I know an improvement I'll list it. Hopefully this will fix my sins of suggesting against a jar buff as I've completely switch my stance due to one particularly intelligent helldiver.
ASSAULT RIFLES
One two: ergo
Tenderizer? Just never see it used
Reprimand?
Pacifier? This seems to have a niche
Variable? Haven't used it but I always hear it needs more ergo
MA5C assault rifle? Never see it but the stats look ok
StA-52 assault rifle? Is there a reason to use this?
DMRS
Deadeye?
Diligence counter sniper? Probably just an ergo buff
R-2 amendment?
Plas-39 accelerator rifle? Single shot mode?
SMGs
Pummeler? This one really seems fine but maybe have it come with the drum mag at base.
SHOTGUNS
Slugger?
SG-8 punisher: got powercrept like hell, it's kinda fine though because it's the first shotgun unlocked. I think a good change would be to make it come with the full choke off the rip.
Breaker S&P: my personal favorite breaker, but it should have larger drum mags. Maybe 40 shots per mag. Increasing mag size across the board would also get rid of the ridiculous amount of short mags you can carry, something like 24 with the right armor.
Breaker incendiary? Why does the S&P come with the duckbill but the incendiary needs to be level 23 to unlock it? Perhaps immediately unlocking the duckbill might make this more useful as that plays into its niche. That being spreading fire across a large area.
SG-20 HALT?
M90A SHOTGUN? Never used it but I also don't see a reason to when the sweeper exists.
META
R-36 ERUPTOR: need full auto
CB-9 EXPLODING CROSSBOW: 30 round clipazines
ENERGY
Blitzer: needs to stop getting stuck on foliage and dead bodies. ?maybe needs to target heads more often
LAS-16 SICKLE: needs the same heat sink upgrades as the scythe. Wouldn't powercreep scythe because scythe is a long range flamethrower.
Scorcher: ammo economy is shit. I think an extra 5 to 10 rounds per mag would make this less reliant on the supply backpack.
JAR-5 DOMINATOR: LOWER THE DAMN SPREAD PLEASE ITS LIKE 20× THAN MIST WEAPONS. Bring it back to 300 damage. Maybe buff ergo a bit. Keep projectile speed the same. Keep penetration the same. Alternatively, ballistic damage 200 and 100 explosive damage. Although I'm very skeptical about the implications of giving it explosive damage.
SECONDARIES
Peacemaker
Veto? I like it but it could use a faster reload.
Verdict? Not sure how you would make this more useful without making the peacemaker even more irrelevant.
Bushwhacker?
Stim pistol?
M6C/SOCOM PISTOL?
P-35 RE-EDUCATOR?
THROWABLES
URCHIN?
Throwing knife? I didn't see a stat on the wiki but from what I hear it has pretty horrible spread.
MELEES
Stun lance: more damage
Machete: a bit faster attack speed
Stun baton: a bit more range
STRATEGEMS
Shield generator relay: should go back to regenerating once the shield goes down.
Grenadier battlement?
Arc thrower: shouldn't get caught on dead bodies and foliage
Patriot exosuit? I think something should be done to its rocket pods because as of right now that is the worst mech arm in the game
Sterilizer? The clouds should linger. It's dedicated CC so it's CC abilities should be buffed considerably.
Directional shield?
One true flag? Could use some more damage similar to the stun lance.
Defoliation tool:https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/Tt1BzOpXzH
Breaching hammer: just needs more ammo, at least 12 but more like 14 to 16.
BFGL? maybe could use more ammo
Anti personnel mines? Is there a reason to bring these over gas mines?
Meltagun? the flinch on this thing is pretty ridiculous. Often throwing you completely off target. Obviously the melta is very strong but the fact that you get flinched so hard if you're hit kinda ruins it for me personally.
BOOSTERS
Stamina enhancement:
Vitality enhancement:
Hellpod space optimization: all 3 should be ship upgrades. This would greatly help with the booster meta and would allow for more interesting choices, rather than everyone just running the meta all the time.
SIDE OBJECTIVES
ANTI AIR side objective: it's range is pitiful. I've also seen it miss bot dropships. It does absolutely nothing against the illuminate also. As it stands this side objective Is pretty useless, whereas side objectives should turn the tide of battle and be invaluable.
Seaf artillery? I'd like to see better ammo spawns. I very rarely get 5 useful shells. The explosive shell barely being useful in itself. Quite often though I get like 2 or 3 smokes. Very rarely seeing a mini nuke. Again, it very rarely turns the tide of battle.
Stalker lair: needs a much bigger detection radius so it starts spawning them sooner. They're kinda a non threat most missions which makes me sad, because I remember when I had a burning hatred for these guys.
GUNSHIP FACTORY: same deal, with a decent team these often go down before they even get the chance to spawn a gunship. They should spawn gunships as soon as the mission starts, albeit at a slower rate, and when helldivers get close they begin to spawn gunships at their faster rate.
I Was saying this to a friend in game earlier today but he didnt really seem to get what I was saying so im going to reddit for my social interaction :P
Basically my point is, Harvesters have 3 legs & the appropriaters mechs have 3 legs.
We as humans with our 2 legs make robots/mechs with 2 legs (like the exo suits & the hell bots of hd1)
By that logic.. You see where im going with this, Art imitates life.
I just think it'd be a cool piece of world building :]
Currently there are only 4 or 5 good boosters or boosters that you see in the game. All the other boosters are rarely seen,terrible or just dont hold up as well to the good ones.
Right now, vitality enhancement, space optimization, experimental stims, and the stamina one dominate the meta.
What do you think about the other boosters? Do you think that they should be buffed or reworked?
I might make another post asking how they should actually be balanced.
Factory strider convoy is 4 regular factory striders and one of the jammer variants which doesnt have the big gun.
Specs for the battlefield
500x500m open route
Convoy of 5 (4 standard, 1 Jammer variant) starts 250m out, advancing down the path in formation toward it.
Hivelord positioned at the midpoint of the convoy's route
Terrain: Flat, no elevation changes except for some cover
Size: 80x80m enclosed yard
Cover density: Moderate, roughly 6-8 pieces of cover spread across the space
I have over 500 hours and still don't have everything unlocked despite being pretty religious about clearing PoIs and having previous 'help'. I bought a $40 title not a gacha game, I want to actually use the cool gear
Both cuties, who may do a little bit of friendly fire sometimes
I think Helldivers 2 could benefit massively from a competitive ranking system, but not PvP.
Instead of players fighting each other, I'd like to see a leaderboard based on how well you perform during operations.
For example, everyone could start at 100 Rating, and your actions during missions would affect your score:
- Killing 100 enemies: +20 Rating
- Completing an operation: +30 Rating
- Dying: -50 Rating
- Failing an operation: -40 Rating
- Completing optional objectives: +X Rating
- Extracting successfully: +X Rating
- Completing higher difficulties: bigger rewards
- Team kills / intentionally sabotaging objectives: penalties
Obviously, these numbers are just examples. The actual scoring system would need to be carefully balanced.
The important part is that your performance actually matters.
It could also help discourage people from simply farming easy missions for samples, Super Credits, medals, etc. If you're only farming low-risk missions, your rating wouldn't increase very much. If you want to climb the leaderboard, you'd have to consistently complete difficult operations and contribute to the team.
And it could go beyond individual rankings
There could be different competitive categories:
Solo
- Individual rating and leaderboard.
Duos
- Two-player team rating.
Trios
- Three-player team rating.
Squads
- Four-player squad/clan rating.
And potentially even Clan/Regiment leaderboards, where groups of players compete to see who can achieve the highest rating over a season.
The important thing is that this wouldn't need to turn Helldivers into a traditional competitive shooter.
You're still fighting the Automatons, Terminids and Illuminate.
You're still cooperating with other players.
But now there is an additional reason to push yourself: you're competing against other Helldivers without actually fighting them.
Imagine having seasonal leaderboards like:
«🥇 #1 Squad — 18,420 Rating
🥈 #2 Squad — 17,950 Rating
🥉 #3 Squad — 17,630 Rating»
And maybe at the end of each season, the best-performing players/squads receive unique titles, capes, banners, cosmetics, etc.
I think Helldivers 2 is actually a perfect game for this because the PvE gameplay already generates a ridiculous amount of measurable data.
Would you guys like to see something like this?
The whole point of a sequel is to be better than the game that came before it and that’s exactly what 2 did. Better graphics, better combat, more weapons, way more suits, way better traversal, and better quality of life features. It’s a no brainer that 2 is the best in the series despite the trolls here on Reddit and the grifters on YouTube say. Newer is always better, it’s common sense.
Skip to bottom for recommended weapon pick.
- 1 shot helmet
Spear gun (the gas one)
Rail gun (safe)
Epoch (light charge )
Meltagun
- 2 shot helmet
AMR (on paper it's a one shot in practice two shots)
Bolt pistol
W.A.S.P (sometimes can kill in 2 )
Auto canon (sometimes it take 3 shots)
- 1 shot head
AMR
Dead eye
Purifier
Eruptor
Variable (volley)
Bolt pistol
Triden ( if it hits)
Loyalist (max charge)
Throwing knife
- 2 shots head
BFGL
Scorcher
Senator
Talon
Any marksmen rifle
- Special recommendation
HMG (if you have true grid best option otherwise very good with recoil reduction and still good with out recoil reduction)
AMR ( 2 shot to break helmet and another one to kill . You can save ammo and just break the helmet and switch to something else to finish the job)
BFGL ( runs out of ammo quickly but kills just as fast recommend supply FRV or good friend )
W.A.S.P ( more ammo friendly BFGL but with reload)
Laser canon ( 2 second to destroy helmet and one more to kill . Good for laser build or if you runs out of ammo frequently )
Spear gun ( good against both wretches and crusher but you will need supply pack)
Auto canon ( APHED against helemt, flak if there is no time to aim . Good again wretches too)
Bolt pistol ( good back up in general but a monster of a weapon if combined with gunslinger and supply pack)
Senator ( same as above but a bit weaker )
Talon (good for finishing disarrmored crushers and saving ammo )
Anything else is either too expansive, takes too long , is too hard to use , or in otherwise too impractical. Yes you can use hell bomb to blow up every but good luck with another kill while it is on cool down .
DON'T SHOT THE BODY UNLESS IT IS LAST RESORT IT TAKE TOO LONG ,TOO MUCH AMMO , AND IT CAN EASLY REGENERATE AFTER OR MID FIGHT
I know its only been 1-2 days since the update dropped and there is definitely stuff that hasnt come out yet (new biome).
There also has to be more than 2 new enemies so I doubt that we have seen everything yet.
But so far, what do you think? How are you liking the update till now?
My personal opinion is that it is a very good update but the content seems to be lacking even if the update just dropped. I was hoping for cultists or atleast 3 or 4 new enemies.
I recommend
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Combined with Gunslinger armor passive
You switch from one gun to another and armor passive speed up weapon switching allowing you to non stop fire .
This works super well since you will get faster weapon switch from primary to secondary and the other way around.
This is enough fire power to fend off wretches and focused the rest of the loudout on flesh mobs and crushers tho I highly recommend bringing gas/fire grenade when they're too much of them .
Btw triden/talon is little bit better against wretches/votless , scythe/dagger is bit better against flesh mobs/crushers
I wonder if this means we're gonna get "SEAF Blue" as a weapon skin eventually.
tldr: It's s the worst weapon in the game, and also has so much potential for fun.
Starting off with some generalized comparisons of support weapons that can fill the role of dedicated heavy killers.
MELTA GUN:
-Short range
-not instant
+No backpack
+More ammo
+Multiple shots per reload
LASER CANNON:
-lower DPS
-lower pen
+Infinite ammo
+1000m range
+Great chaff clear
+No backpack
RR:
-backpack
-less ammo
-1 shot per reload
+1 shot for most heavies
+Good range
DEFOLIATION TOOL:
-melee range
-lower DPS
-starts at med pen
-gets stuck on foliage and dead bodies A LOT
+Stun once you reach correct armor pen
+Infinite ammo
+No backpack
BREACHING HAMMER:
-melee range
-1 shot per reload
+More ammo
+1 shot most heavies
+Fast reload
+When you do run out of charges, you can still make use of the hammer, albeit a lot less effectively.
Some comparisons of heavy killing weapons, kinda using the RR as the baseline. Didn't include the AMR because it's pretty similar to the las cannon just with limited ammo and higher DPS. Didn't include the auto cannon because I'm honestly not super familiar with it.
When considering the fire DPS of the laser cannon, it does pretty similar DPS to the defoliation tool. Using a standard charger head as the baseline.
The point of this was to point out that the defoliation tool is still hilariously outmatched, and not just because it is a melee weapon. It's bad even when compared to melee secondaries. Even the one true flag is more useful to the team.
"You can't fix this, because it will always be bad compared to ranged weapons." Wild statement that I here all the time when there are obvious steps to take to improve it. The second half is kinda true, it will never be as good as most ranged options, but that doesn't mean it can't be improved.
Some ways to improve it:
More damage: because of where it sits right now balance wise, damage can be increased quite a bit before it starts rubbing shoulders with other weapons, namely the breaching hammer. My goal here is not to outperform the breaching hammer. The defoliation tool shouldnt be an obvious pick between the two. That isn't good balance. That being said, the beginning of my statement still stands. It's damage could be increased quite a bit before it starts to outcompete the breaching hammer, even when considering ammo economy.
More range: This could only be increased slightly though, and truthfully I think it's sitting in a decent spot when it comes to range.
Ramp up: The ramp up speed it currently has is pretty good, however starting at med pen is greatly holding it back. Ramp up is most important when it comes to the stun. Stun is integral to using the defoliation tool. If it started at heavy pen and ramped up to anti tank, skipping med pen, it would begin stunning most enemies immediately. This effect is strong enough that the ramp up speed could even be lowered, and it would still be a huge improvement. Not suggesting lowering ramp up speed of course.
Finally a fix for getting stuck on enemies and the environment. This is a major issue with this weapon and will absolutely get you killed if you so much as try to 1v1 a hunter. Luckily it is an easy fix that I've seen suggested many times. Give it different fire modes. The method of doing so being the same as the entrenchment tool. That way it is seem less and fast. When you swing the defoliation tool normally, have it cleave through targets. When you aim and swing, have it get stuck in targets the way it already does. So the ADS swing would be exactly as it is now, and the non ADS swing, which can and would have the exact same animation, would not get stuck on targets. I see people suggest making a firing mode where you just hold it out in front of you, and that would be great. But when suggesting fixes for a forgotten weapon, one must consider how much time the devs are willing to spend on that weapon. My suggestion would keep them from having to make a new animation.
My comparisons of the weapons are not super in depth, mainly because I want to push this out as soon as possible, but also because I trust the community is VERY familiar with the weapons I used. For people not familiar with the defoliation too, which is most, it has very similar DPS to the laser cannon. This is combined with none of the benefits of being ranged, and it also doesn't really benefit from having infinite ammo because you'll die WAY before you get to feel that effect.