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How did Sirius manage to get Snape to sneak through the tunnel leading to the Shrieking Shack?

My theory is that Sirius managed to slip an anonymous note into Snape’s personal belongings—I don’t think Snape recognized Sirius’s handwriting or memorize it—telling him how to get past the Whomping Willow. If Sirius had told him face-to-face, Snape would have suspected something and wouldn’t have gone. It wasn’t only after the disaster had been avoided that Snape discovered Sirius was behind it all; of course, he remained convinced until the very end that the Marauders had all conspired to play this prank on him.

u/Madagascar003 — 5 hours ago
▲ 3.6k r/SeverusSnape+1 crossposts

Hero discovers their idealized dead parental figure did awful things when they were alive

Harry Potter: Harry discovers via Snape’s memories that his father James bullied and sexually assaulted Snape and threatened to hex Lily. (Edit: Exposing someone’s underwear and then threatening to remove said underwear is sexual assault.)

Batman: It varies with the canon but in the Telltale series Bruce Wayne discovers that Thomas was fully corrupt and partnered with the Falcones; he would have people committed to Arkham Asylum after giving them drugs that would turn them insane.

Thor: In Thor: Ragnarok Thor discovers Odin was once a ruthless conqueror that violently subjugated the Nine Realms.

u/CyberGhostface — 22 hours ago

As he learned from Remus the story of how James, Sirius, and Peter became Animagi, Snape must have been brooding over the fact that he hadn't discovered this during their teenage years so he could use it against them

>Lupin broke off. There had been a loud creak behind him. The bedroom door had opened of its own accord. All five of them stared at it. Then Lupin strode towards it and looked out into the landing.

It was at that very moment that Snape entered the Shrieking Shack. And as luck would have it, it was just as Remus was about to begin his story, so Snape had a front-row seat to hear everything.

>‘No one there …’

>‘This place is haunted!’ said Ron.

>‘It’s not,’ said Lupin, / ‘The Shrieking Shack was never haunted… the screams and howls the villagers used to hear were made by me.’ / ‘That’s where all of this starts – with my becoming a werewolf. None of this could have happened if I hadn’t been bitten … and if I hadn’t been so foolhardy …’ / ‘I was a very small boy when I received the bite. My parents tried everything, but in those days there was no cure. The Potion that Professor Snape has been making for me is a very recent discovery. It makes me safe, you see. As long as I take it in the week preceding the full moon, I keep my mind when I transform … I am able to curl up in my office, a harmless wolf, and wait for the moon to wane again. Before the Wolfsbane Potion was discovered, however, I became a fully fledged monster once a month. It seemed impossible that I would be able to come to Hogwarts. Other parents weren’t likely to want their children exposed to me. But then Dumbledore became Headmaster, and he was sympathetic. He said that, as long as we took certain precautions, there was no reason I shouldn’t come to school…’ Lupin sighed, and looked directly at Harry. ‘I told you, months ago, that the Whomping Willow was planted the year I came to Hogwarts. The truth is that it was planted because I had come to Hogwarts. This house –’ / ‘– the tunnel that leads to it – they were built for my use. Once a month, I was smuggled out of the castle, into this place, to transform. The tree was placed at the tunnel mouth to stop anyone coming across me while I was dangerous.’ / ‘My transformations in those days were – were terrible. It is very painful to turn into a werewolf. I was separated from humans to bite, so I bit and scratched myself instead. The villagers heard the noise and the screaming and thought they were hearing particularly violent spirits. Dumbledore encouraged the rumour… even now, when the house has been silent for years, the villagers don’t dare approach it…

>‘But apart from my transformations, I was happier than I had ever been in my life. For the first time ever, I had friends, three great friends. Sirius Black … Peter Pettigrew … and, of course, your father, Harry – James Potter. ‘Now, my three friends could hardly fail to notice that I disappeared once a month. I made up all sorts of stories. I told them my mother was ill, and that I had to go home to see her … I was terrified they would desert me the moment they found out what I was. But of course, they, like you, Hermione, worked out the truth … ‘And they didn’t desert me at all. Instead they did something for me that would make my transformations not only bearable, but the best times of my life. They became Animagi.’

>‘My dad, too?’ said Harry, astounded.

>‘Yes, indeed,’ said Lupin. ‘It took them the best part of three years to work out how to do it. Your father and Sirius here were the cleverest students in the school, and lucky they were, because the Animagus transformation can go horribly wrong – one reason the Ministry keeps a close watch on those attempting to do it. Peter needed all the help he could get from James and Sirius. Finally, in our fifth year, they managed it. They could each turn into a different animal at will.’

>‘But how did that help you?’ said Hermione, sounding puzzled.

>‘They couldn’t keep me company as humans, so they kept me company as animals,’ said Lupin. ‘A werewolf is only a danger to people. They sneaked out of the castle every month under James’s Invisibility Cloak. They transformed … Peter, as the smallest, could slip beneath the Willow’s attacking branches and touch the knot that freezes it. They would then slip down the tunnel and join me. Under their influence, I became less dangerous. My body was still wolfish, but my mind seemed to become less so while I was with them.’

>‘Hurry up, Remus,’ snarled Black who was still watching Scabbers with a horrible sort of hunger in his face.

>‘I’m getting there, Sirius, I’m getting there … well, highly exciting possibilities were open to us now we could all transform. Soon we were leaving the Shrieking Shack and roaming the school grounds and the village by night.’

>Sirius and James transformed into such large animals, they were able to keep a werewolf in check. I doubt whether any Hogwarts students ever found out more about the Hogwarts grounds and Hogsmeade than we did … And that’s how we came to write the Marauder’s Map, and sign it with our nicknames. Sirius is Padfoot. Peter is Wormtail. James was Prongs.’

>‘What sort of animal –?’ Harry began, but Hermione cut across him.

>‘That was still really dangerous! Running around in the dark with a werewolf! What if you’d given the others the slip, and bitten somebody?’

> ‘A thought that still haunts me,’ said Lupin heavily.

>‘And there were near misses, many of them. We laughed about them afterwards. We were young, thoughtless – carried away with our own cleverness.’

>‘I sometimes felt guilty about betraying Dumbledore’s trust, of course … he had admitted me to Hogwarts when no other Headmaster would have done so, and he had no idea I was breaking the rules he had set down for my own and others’ safety. He never knew I had led three fellow students into becoming Animagi illegally. But I always managed to forget my guilty feelings every time we sat down to plan our next month’s adventure. And I haven’t changed…’

Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban - Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs

During his teenage years, Snape was relentlessly bullied by the Marauders, who never missed an opportunity to make his life miserable. Faced with the teaching staff’s inaction and unable to endure the situation any longer, Snape began spying on them in the hope of finding something incriminating against them so he could have them permanently expelled from Hogwarts and finally have some peace. It was during these spying missions that he discovered the Marauders were sneaking out at night, and knowing them as he did, Snape knew they were up to something shady and against the rules, but he never fully grasped what exactly was going on. It was during this period that Sirius had the foolish idea of sending him to the Shrieking Shack—knowing full well that Remus was there in his werewolf form—and he did so without any regard for Snape’s life or for Remus’s future should his attempt on Snape’s life have succeeded. Not only did Snape never find out what the Marauders were doing when they snuck out at night when they were supposed to be in their dormitory, but Dumbledore also forbade him from telling anyone about the incident at the Shrieking Shack. For Snape, this was obviously a terrible injustice.

Years later, upon learning how the Marauders had become Animagi for Remus’s sake—how they’d take him out every full moon from the Shrieking Shack, where he was supposed to stay, just for the stupid thrill of exploring Hogwarts and Hogsmeade, at the risk of Remus inadvertently killing or infecting someone— it only reinforced Snape’s conviction that these four were indeed troublemakers, that none of them was worthy of the slightest trust or consideration—immature, arrogant kids who thought only of having fun without a care for the consequences of their actions. Snape must have regretted not having known all this years earlier, because if he had, he would not have hesitated to expose them and have them expelled. The Marauders were not as noble and wonderful as people seem to believe, and Snape was the only one clear-headed enough to understand that.

u/Madagascar003 — 8 hours ago

"Snape Deserved Better, No He Shouldn't Be With Lily"

I wonder how common it is to be against or neutral towards Snily as a Snape fan, especially the segment who think he deserved better in life.

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u/MadFunEnjoyer — 23 hours ago

Apparently, the 5th books' "predator scenting prey" metaphor is too complex for some. JK Rowling's official supplementary essay on Lupin plainly calls Snape vs. marauders "relentless bullying."

u/eternalexiistence — 1 day ago

I finished listening to the full cast audio books and Riz Ahmed as Snape kinda grew on me.

In the beginning, I didn't like his voice acting much. The Felton-Malfoy style pronunciation of Potter in particular was icky.

However, I must say he nailed the character in Half-Blood Prince and the Deathly Hallows. Raj Swamy and Mylo Khan also did well as adolescent and child Severus respectively.

u/eternalexiistence — 2 days ago

My 6yr old has her first crush

She watched the first Harry Potter movie (she's heard the first 4 in audio book form) and she told me after the second time watching it that she had something to tell me that I might laugh at. She said she fell in love with someone in the movie, after some suspense she told me who. She fell in love with Snape.

I didn't laugh! I just asked her what she liked about him and all she can say is "I like the way he is" she draws pictures of her and Snape holding hands smiling and she's currently dressed all in black with a cape and saying she's Snape's wife.

This is so cute and funny but part of me wonders what I'm in for when she hits her teens!

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u/VoodoDreams — 2 days ago

My headcanon about Tobias Snape: I think he was a religious fanatic

Ok, hear me out, it’s just a headcanon, let me explain.

Although the most popular headcanon about Tobias Snape is that he was a drunker (a HC so strong that a lot of people think that this is canon), it is not confirmed that Severus’ father had a problem with alcohol. But a headcanon that I really like is Tobias being a religious fanatic, some kind of Christian priest or pastor.

We know the author loves to relate the name of the character to one of his main characteristics (Severus being “severe” and Remus Lupin being a werewolf). Tobias is a Hebrew name, which means "God is good" or "the goodness of Yahweh". It is a very religious name. My headcanon is that Tobias Snape was a religious fanatic who pursued “demons” and “witches” and that’s why he hates Eileen and Severus so much, because he thinks they are some evil creatures that corrupts good people (l was inspired by Mary Lou Barebone, the adoptive mother of Creedence/Aurelius Dumbledore) and that’s why he was abusive towards them. This also explains why Severus says “he doesn’t like much anything” because probably Tobias saw demons and evil in everything much like every religious fanatic.

I was also inspired by Carrie’s mother from Stephen King when I created this headcanon. And that explains to me why Eileen and Tobias got together. Fanatic people can be very persuasive about their cult and Eileen could have a reason to try to escape the wizarding world and live like a muggle, so she decided to join his fanatic views for a while and hide (edit: hide her magic abilities if it is not clear) what she was until she got pregnant or until Severus made his first accidental magic. Then Tobias, mad with the fact that he married a witch but he couldn’t get a divorce because of his religious views, decided that the witch “seduced” him and made a little demon and that’s why he was so abusive towards them.

Fun fact: Snape, in English, can also be a verb, that means “to criticize” or “to rebuke”. It comes from the Old Norse “sneypa” that means “to dishonor”. I think that this matches with my HC.

Let me know what you think in the comments.

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u/Existing_Lynx9475 — 3 days ago

Life flashing before his eyes or giving all his secrets?

When Snape was dying and was giving away his memories in his tears, do you think he was seeing his life before his eyes? Or that he was giving a full backstory of his devotion to Harry (Lily)? I read recently that Snape died believing that Harry would die soon after. Do you think he really let himself be vulnerable and disclosed everything that was so close to his heart? I always believed his life was flashing before his eyes.

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u/pgkpgkpgk — 3 days ago

Eileen Prince and Tobias Snape

At the end of HBP, Hermione tells Harry that while looking for article about R.A.B., she came across two articles regarding Eileen. One announcing her marriage to Tobias Snape and another one announcing the birth of her child (Severus). Here are the exact lines:

“I was going through the rest of the old Prophets and there was a tiny announcement about Eileen Prince marrying a man called Tobias Snape, and then later an announcement saying that she’d given birth to a —” “— murderer,” spat Harry. “Well . . . yes,” said Hermione. “So . . . I was sort of right. Snape must have been proud of being ‘half a Prince,’ you see? Tobias Snape was a Muggle from what it said in the Prophet.”

My question is, why would there be an article about Eileen Prince (who was not a significant witch, as much as we are aware) marrying someone? And even mentioning his name and also the fact that he is a Muggle? And then why announce the birth of their child too? It's not like they were some influential family that everyone needed to know their business. Would there be articles about every single witch or wizard's most ordinary and non-important actions in the Prophet? I know she mentions the announcements are tiny, but why are they there at all?

(I know why Rowling added this. I'm looking for in-world explanations.)

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u/Imaginary_Knee5609 — 3 days ago