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I just got my diploma!

I just got my diploma!

I've been pretty busy these past few days, but I still wanted to make this quick sketch to congratulate everyone who recently finished their studies, graduated, or completed their finals.

I'm proud of all of you, and I wish you nothing but the best on whatever comes next! đź’ś

u/Loki_From_Ragnarok — 2 hours ago

Ranking 20 sub members from weakest to strongest #1

Starting with this bum, which tier does he deserve to be in?

u/Mikushubby — 4 hours ago

Apocalypse prediction part 2: Belial vs Leviathan

Death is predicted to win against Enma. now vote for who you think is going to win, Belial or Leviathan? (1 comment equals 1 vote. replies do not count)

u/Suspicious_Jump4585 — 8 hours ago

Some new drawings

I managed to make new drawings and full drawing pieces during my breaks from thesis, for the first time after a while. For the drawing of Jack the Ripper, I used acrylic markers, and for drawing of Heracles, I used alcohol-based markers.

Also, this is a Round 4 appreciation, sort of (Round 4 is one of my favourite fights as well). I remember that Heracles' death made me cried when I read the climax of Round 4, literally. :")

(Jack being the cat and Heracles as the Nemean lion)

u/EditorHot2416 — 8 hours ago

Ahura Mazda huge disappointment

Backstory revolves around Angra Mainyu and I think Spenta Mainyu fighting each other alongside their pantheons (super weird designs) to which a giant tentacle monster pulls up and they combine on some power ranger shi and one shot it (Also sliming out their entire pantheon for saying the wrong names).

Skip to the fight he’s aura farming and takes his sweat time to attack and gets one shot after all that build up.. Dudes opponent looked like he got picked up from the street and he got slimed that easily

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u/Various_Alps1688 — 6 hours ago

Hello everyone it’s you boy the winner of the 9th round Apollo here! AMA! (Apollo roleplay post)

It’s been quite a while I had my beautiful battle with Leonidas, and I am getting bored so the Sun-Hod of yours right here is at your service for your questions!

u/Manny-Rexy-Sexy — 11 hours ago

HADES VS BUDDHA MEGAPOST

Today I'll carefully analyze this matchup and who was the best win conditions, safe-guards and reasonings (and explain why it's Hades). It's Staff Buddha, so no Nirvana Sword!

To start off, throughout the entirety of R6 Hades was shown to read through Buddha - anticipating his actions, understanding his abilities, comprehending his attitude. Even with no prior knowledge, he was the first to correctly infer Pure Enlightenment would start working again. This is something even other characters with high IQ/BIQ like Zeus, Hermes and Brunhilde couldn't tell. And they had already seen it in action, unlike Hades.

All of R7 is, basically, Qin coming up with a new OP hax and Hades overcoming it through adaptation, experience and sharp rationality (in other words, BIQ). Hades is a pragmatical and precise fighter that doesn't make any action he doesn't explicitly need to. He's faced with an obstacle, breaks it down logically, comes up with a counter strategy and goes for the kill.

So we already know Hades:

  • Is fully aware of how Buddha's FS works
  • Is fully aware of Buddha's mentality, attitude and fighting style
  • Fights strategically and aiming to outwit his opponent

Now we have the theory, but what could Hades do against Buddha in practice?

Well, there are multiple tactics and moves Hades could employ. Although his arsenal may seem straightforward at first, he is always shown to play his cards wisely and use them in unorthodox ways.

I'll now list some of his options:

  • Wear down Buddha with wind-blades, that is invisible and unavoidable (it's just the stirred up wind, after all).
  • Throw off his balance and stance with Kallichoron into Roa, a combo made to assure a hit on Qin that was constantly dodging. The wind-blade damage + massive destruction made Qin lose his ground and stagger.
  • Use Persephone Roa's area of effect to injure or at least break Buddha's guard, creating an opening for a subsequent attack. Ichor Eos' also has an even greater AoE, but I don't think all that would be necessary.
  • Use the arena in his favor to surprise Buddha, such as lifting a piece of the floor to cover himself from Buddha's field of view (like Lu-Bu does in his spin-off).
  • Break Buddha's guard if they trade attacks, which he did against Beelzebub in the anime; this basically guarantees a hit due to the strength gap.

A more detailed breakdown on Hades' wind-blade and AoE can be found here

Fun fact: in the series' official game, Kallichoron has the unique ability to nerf the enemy's evasion.

Narratively, the author wouldn't make Hades fight like an incompetent idiot if he battled Buddha, and these are some methods he could use to avoid that.

What about the shield?

Ahimsa's best feat is withstanding a blow from Zerofuku. Hades casually went relative with Palmyra and his named techniques are massively stronger than that. He only needs to hit the shield once with a powerful attack and it's already out of comission.

Buddha's win conditions

Buddha has 3 win-cons: FS counter, scythe and the final after-image. Let's go through each of them.

Countering with future sight

FS counter, although really troublesome in general, does not guarantee hits. We have the likes of Sasaki - who at the time could see even further into the future - aiming where Poseidon would go and still not being able to land a blow. This happens because FS counters still stem from the character's natural speed and travels space normally. If a fighter has high reflexes he can still block, parry or even dodge it.

Does Hades have high reflexes?

Yes, without a doubt. He has some of the best reaction speed feats and narratives in the verse.

When Hades coated himself in blood to notice Tortoise Ripple, he charged towards Qin who then shot bubble. Since it's invisible, Hades could only notice it when it was at point-blank and bypassing the thin blood layer. Like aforementioned, Hades was charging towards Qin, and he has great travel-speed. Not only he perceived it in that instant but simultaneously reacted to it, changing his stance to shift his star before bubble reached it. He could even do that during Ichor Eos' charge, that is even faster, hence why Qin didn't use TR against it.

This feat is supported by Hades' portrayal and statements. Brunhilde believes only Qin stands a chance against Hades, and even if you don't think this is definitive proof he beats every human, it at least proves he wouldn't be instantly dominated by any Einherjar. So Hades could react to Okita, for example, who is terrifyingly fast.

Thanks to the bubble feat we also know Hades' reaction time scales to his perception time. And funnily enough, Hades was the only one able to keep up with Buddha on the end of R6, not being tricked by the after-image and remaining unimpressed by Mahapari Nirvana. That's Buddha's fastest strike, that he doesn't even have access to in this fight.

Due to all of this, it's safe to say Hades wouldn't get tagged or blitzed by Buddha.

Salakayas Scythe

To preface, I don't think the scythe has any context to be summoned here. It only popped up when Hajun (a demonic evil monster) told Buddha he had just eaten the friend that begged him for help. Hades is an incredibly respectful, honored and dignified fighter. I actually see them getting along quite well if anything. I can't fathom Buddha feeling pure hatred towards him.

But anyways, even if he somehow does, it's still not a definitive win-con. I already went through Hades reaction time, so all that's left is a way of defending it. Does he have that? Yes. Although many don't know it, Bident is an incredibly durable weapon, and is constantly praised for its toughness and durability. Hades also has better reflexes and strength than Hajun.

A more detailed breakdown on Bident's durability can be found here

The Final After-Image

I've basically answered this one already. Hades was the only one that didn't fall for it, even when the likes of Okita, Zeus, Hermes, Sasaki and Brunhilde did.

Some people might say he was just "acting nonchalant", but that's simply untrue. He expressively reacted to the scythe being destroyed and was pretty invested in the fight. Hades isn't an apathetic person. Even in Beelzebub's flashback he was completely shocked by Lilith's curse. Why would he notably react when Salakayas lost the clash but remain entirely neutral when Buddha was sliced in half? That makes 0 sense.

The author was trying to hype up Hades for the next fight, and that's one of the ways he did it.

Conclusion

I could use multiple other narrative arguments; name other feats, scalings, statements, but I think this is enough. I've showed how Hades has better chances of winning, more solid win-cons and reliable safe-guards to Buddha's.

Thanks for reading, I hope you liked!

u/nerolyn — 17 hours ago

Tierlist version#9 of the STRONGEST OF SNV, with some spice and humor.

Simo, Loki and Jack have been given their own tier Alongside Okita Souji and Shiva going up and some troll ranks.

u/Manny-Rexy-Sexy — 14 hours ago

The Greatest Escape Artist, Harry Houdini, has been nominated for Humanity’s Performer. Now onto the Hero.

Nominate any folk hero.

Rules:

No fighters from the actual series

Don’t downvote

If you write an intro I’ll upvote your comment

u/RutabagaTrick985 — 16 hours ago

Apocalypse prediction part 1: Enma vs Death

vote for who you think is going to win, Enma or Death (1 comment equals 1 vote. replies do not count)

u/Suspicious_Jump4585 — 17 hours ago