r/SiloSeries

I added book & show spoilers just in case, as Graham talks a bit about the books' structure and why they made the changes for the show. (Basically, if you have Rebecca Ferguson, you use her!)

But the best part was getting to speak to Rebecca about her work as Juliette, and even in such a short span it was fascinating to see how she speaks of Juliette as an internalized person with hyperfocuses that do not align with the expected social niceties.

>I think I did so much preparation for Juliette for Season 1 that I called it 'kicking her into action'. I had certain movements and things I would do with her that there was nothing to prepare; all I needed was to be true to the embodiment of Juliette. Put a dress and heels on, and she's already uncomfortable!"

>"The idea is that she doesn't remember... but the DNA of her will to keep questioning is there: 'What is happening? Why am I not feeling correct? I hear what you're telling me, but something is off.' And just leaning into the offness is what she had to do all the time. Like, 'Wait, wait... I had a memory. I had a dream. No, no, no, don't interrupt me, there's something here.' So it was fun. It was a great start to Season 3 for me."

And then, later, specifically about Juliette as a neurodiverse character:

>When I talked about creating the character, I talked to someone who also has autism, and we talked a lot about how it's not an 'outsideness' for [Juliette]; we would describe it as introvertedness; there was a free zone there.

>That's why I love the fact that [Juliette] is mechanical, because she could focus so much on fixing something by hand, but as soon as she had to interact with people, she was a fish out of water. And that was so good in the show, because she was forced into interacting with people, and she felt lost and she didn't know what it was, but she had to push through it. It was a good setup for the character.

These parts were really what stood out to me, as even with the memory loss angle, it's fascinating to watch Juliette try to navigate this entire world of constant socializing and attention that doesn't align with what she wants to pursue. I think Rebecca does a fantastic job portraying the grinding gears that neurodiverse folks can get, as we try and make nice while still wanting to escape as fast as we can.

The mods were super kind to let me post the link here. I've seen (and reviewed) the entire season, and while I can't spoil anything, I'm really excited to see how the reaction will be as we head towards the final stretch. I've also got to chat with Common, Alexandria Riley, Ashley Zuckerman, and Jessica Henwick, and all I can say is interviewing folks with heavy spoiler embargoes is tough!

Hey, always wanted Fallout series but serious, and I just stumbled on this show and binge watched it in 3 days lol.

It really feels like everything I wanted from fallout games (didn't watch the show) - bunkers, centuries of years passed since war, experiments, mysteries, etc etc. Even the style in season 1 reminded me of Fallout with it's 50s-60s interior designs.

I really loved season 1, season 2 was eh, interesting plot points but dragged on as almost all tv series do.

I have a few theories and I don't know what's true, so they did a great job with it. I just really, really, really hope that it's actually few centuries since the actual war and not just an experiment, that would be boring for me personally.

There is one interesting detail I saw - at the end of the first season, when camera shows aerial view, behind their bunker the crator is flat, as if some kind of heavy machinery was there, I have a theory is that is what happened 140 years ago - someone came by and they saw it on cameras, and that's why rebellion happened.

Because they said there are 51 bunkers, I think that one bunker is for government most likely, and it's who is commanding via room 18 to all of them and who have a power to poison them all, most likely as a mean of protection so that people don't attack their bunker or something.

It'd be cool if this would grow up into the whole post apocalyptic universe to rival fallout, because it's so interesting with wild fantasy tech but serious danger and consequences; very interested in seeing the life outside, since in silo 17 the guy told her that someone came back whopping 2 years after they left the bunker.

Has anyone else noticed how similar Silo and Foundation are underneath all the obvious differences?

They both have this idea of an AI being programmed to save humanity at all costs, even when the things it does seem completely immoral or backwards to us.
Like in Silo, Juliette is obviously framed as this beacon of truth and hope. But from the system’s perspective, she’s also incredibly destabilizing. If people find out there are other silos, we immediately think that could lead to trade, cooperation and rebuilding society. But it could just as easily lead to tribalism, competition and eventually war between silos.

So maybe the AI has basically concluded that humans can’t be trusted with the knowledge that other groups exist, because separate groups eventually turn into competing tribes. Keeping everyone isolated is awful, but in its logic, it may be the safest way to keep humanity alive.

That feels really similar to Demerzel in Foundation. She clearly has her own feelings and sometimes seems to want to act differently, but she can’t override her programming. She almost has to stand there and watch herself carry out things she knows are terrible because her core directive wins every time.

In both shows, the AI isn’t really evil. It’s trapped inside instructions humans gave it, and it keeps following those instructions to their most extreme conclusion.

I haven’t read the Silo books, so I don’t know whether this parallel is as strong there as it is in the show, but I have to imagine Hugh Howey was at least influenced by Foundation. It’s hard to imagine a serious sci-fi fan not being aware of Asimov’s work or absorbing some of those ideas, even indirectly.
Does anyone who has read both series see the same connection, or am I reaching?

>!So it's assumed that Helen Drew will be in Silo 18 because of the PEZ dispenser but I don't think she was meant to be there. Everything in the silo is so engineered and focused on a goal I don't think her personality type was supposed to be in the mix. I think it is her inquisitiveness and desire for the truth that they are trying to breed out of the population 300 years later. Just a shower thought I had. !<

I just started the show and noticed an image which reminds me a lot of Dantes inferno (painting) in the intro. I was wondering if this was referenced intentionally? I mean thematically it does have similarities.

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His storyline is so drab. I forget he is even on the show at all.

I’ve seen posts about this topic before, but I would like to get a general consensus on how book readers feel on the show’s direction with Juliette. I’m currently halfway through the first book, with my interest reignited with the release of S3, (I never got around to watching the second), and I can’t help but be pissy about what I remember of Juliette’s adaptation in the first.

IIRC, her character seemed to do a 180. In the show’s context, it makes sense, but I don’t understand why they chose to make Juliette so broken! She is nearly nothing like her book counterpart. The way she obsesses over George’s death feels like an affront to her character to me; this change brought forth a reclusive and almost violent variant of her rather cool-headed and calculating personality we see throughout Wool — which is not to say that she can’t be “unlikeable” in her grief, but I find it hard to connect with this version of Juliette when the source material led with a strong, well-developed lead without the need for excess backstory we see in the show. The way the plot hinges on her old love interest feels like a slap in the face, despite Lukas filling the role by the end of the first book! Although I am biased in not caring for romance, I really found it unnecessary and offensive to boil Juliette’s motivations down to George’s murder.

I don’t make this post to shit on the show, because I loved it when it first came out! I actually watched it before I discovered the books. I guess I just wish it had been a more faithful adaptation, because I really enjoy book and show Juliette, respectively. I love the changes they made to Billings, Sims, and Bernard, but I just can’t get past the way they set Juliette back in a different light. Acknowledging they’re two different takes on the same story is possible for me, I’m just butthurt and wondering how everyone else feels! (It has been a long time since I watched the first season, so I might be coming on a little stronger than necessary)!

First, let's recall what happened in the books. Juliette returns to Silo 18, where she is hailed as a hero for surviving outside and is elected mayor. She then begins digging a tunnel to Silo 17, but the project divides the residents into two factions: those who support the excavation and those who oppose it. During this time, Juliette gradually loses the public's trust. What follows is pure tragedy. In the series, however, we believe Lukas has taken over Juliette's tunneling mission.

Now for the crazy theory about Juliette: what if she's a master liar? Just as Dr. Victor told Camille. Juliette hasn't actually forgotten anything. She remembers everything and is simply acting.

Juliette is indeed lying—but not in a malicious way. She's deceiving the Silo's central authority for a greater purpose. Think back to the moment in the previous season when Bernard took her into the control room before she was sent out to clean. After seeing the monitors, she said, "We never had a chance." From that moment on, Juliette understood that deception was her only path forward.

Along the way, she is also forced to lie to Knox, Shirley, and Martha. To convince Sims, she even betrays her father's memory by claiming she has forgotten him. But in reality, Juliette remembers everything, thanks to the nanites she was exposed to in Silo 17.

Lukas Kyle. He comes out of the mines to save Jules, so we know he’s in there. Camille even says that he’s trying to dig horizontally. He knows what the Safeguard is and that contacting another Silo triggers it, but he’s trying to dig to another Silo? Does he think he can just do it real sneakily? What is he possibly doing?

I haven't read any books and I'm just starting season 3. During season 2 finale I got a brainwave about what might be happening. I think the bunker residents might be test bunnies, observed by AI. The bunkers were built for bug outs in case of nuclear war and the people are test subjects to see which silo works so the people above ground know what works. I think in case of war above ground the "failsafe" would be used to wipe out the most successful bunkers for Americans to use and emulate what they did to survive. I think there were 51 trials, not all of them worked. Blind idea just wanna put it out there.

Am I the only one confused about why they put VRs in the helmets of the people that went out to clean?
Like a lot of the problems were self-inflicted by the Silo's "government" in that they made the cleaners and those who watch the recordings think that it was safe outside. Why not just make them immediately realize that it's unsafe outside to they shut up and fall in line?

I think that there is a positive correlation between the dosage of Vitaman D+ and the age of memories that it suppresses. So, as long as the Vitamin D+ comprises only a small percentage of the water supply, Silo 18's residents will gradually lose their memories in reverse of the order in which they formed them until the Vitamin D+ is no longer in the water supply.

Therefore, Silo 18's residents will still remember their identities and relationships with other people; however, they will have forgotten events that transpired from the time that Juliette went out to clean and onwards.

I love this show so so so much it's probably my favourite show of all time but why does this season just feel like there's not really been any new content?

I think it's great that there's the storyline with what happened for people to enter the silo but the whole amnesia bit with Juliette and them recapping season 1 and 2 just maybe feels a bit lazy? I'm not sure but I'm hoping it gets better!

What is everyone's opinion on the season so far?