



My choices are:
Khorne: Savage Opress
Nurgle: Jabba the Hutt
Slaanesh: Thrawn
Tzeentch: Palpatine
My reasoning for Thrawn is because he strives for perfection in her craft and Slaanesh is God of Excess and Perfectio
Their battle will be legendary.
Scenario 1 on courasant empire era
Scenario 2 kamino
Scenario 3 geonosis under sepratist control
This Is pre imperium and more of a talk about Lionel jhonson home world caliban where the predecessor of the dark angels called the order hunt the great beast and live in a techno feudal society, they did use a form of pseudo power armor in this hunts but was mostly a feudal society
(This does not take much on note things like space marines or primarch because it can be problematic but if anyone wants to talk about the lion im fine , makes me wonder how different would be his personality if have a childhood in the mh world instead) and in how the monsters from mh compares
I’ve seen some really… interesting arguments or perspectives on this.
A great recurring example I see is involving Vader, which is a good one because we have a lot of material and the passage of time to draw from.
Someone brings up how Vader clears entire capital ships by himself, and someone would respond, “that doesn’t make sense, in attack of the clones he struggled against droids”. He didn’t, but let’s say that’s the case, how would that matter?
The growth and development and training and sheer power that is had in the following decades is a magnitude multiplier.
Power and abilities grow, they don’t stay stagnant.. or even go backwards unless expressly dictated.
So in the revenge of the sith novelization when Anakin has near perfect foresight and clarity in future events, that’s not an ability he is going to lose.
When he struggles against starving slaves as an 11 year old boy in the phantom menace, that doesn’t translate to him still struggling as an above Jedi master level entity in ATOC. And up from there.
It wouldn’t make sense when someone was talking about how strong the emperor is/was and I say, “I don’t think so, when he was in the womb, a Psyker doctor could have killed him”.
That doesn’t make sense. It’s a bad argument. It’s dumb.
Another regular one is when people conflate attack of the clones/clone wars and revenge of the sith anakin. They aren’t even in the same league.
A feat of Anakin struggling in the clone wars show and the somehow translates to him struggle in revenge or the sith doesn’t make sense.
Weaknesses don’t really translate to future. But power and ability does grow.
If he can’t beat someone at point a, he might be able to At point b.
If he can’t beat someone beat someone at point a, he WILL be able to at point b.
At least that past version of themselves. Dooku could at the time of attack of the clones and revenge of the sith have always beaten attack of the clones Anakin. But at no time could have beat revenge of the sith Anakin. Because dookues growth, didn’t match or keep up with anakins.
This gets more complicated with psykers and Jedi, as they seem to continually get stronger but at different rates.
“Base” characters only get stronger with enhancements or training. But then seem to level out.
People become MORE powerful over time. Not less.
Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
I would have normal Imperial Army troops, the Andor ones who wear the breastplate and cap, very few assault troops, I would like to experiment with clones, not Jango's or other templates, I would like to have the clones with phase 3 armor in my garrison.
Can they even resist the radiation?
A fully grown Summa-Verminoth vs a fully grown Space Whale.
Was trying to think of a good debate for one of my favorite glup shittos... Beilert Valance.
I put a official image that explains his story and equipment.
as for who I put him against... I thought would be fitting to put a skitarii warrior against the cyborg bounty hunter.
Admiteddly i am unsure how close this will be... I just hope I didn't accidentaly asked a question that is like too unfair for one side or the other
There is this myth that I have noticed that Vader does not abuse force in fights, which is simply not true. I will start by just listing some, out of many, examples of Vader opening with force, that is, of his first attack against that particular enemy being TK.
Here Vader explodes Lyleks, attacking him into pieces with TK:
>Vader extended a gloved hand and loosed a blast of power that blew apart two of the lyleks rushing toward him, showering those behind with gore and chunks of carapace. - Lords of the Sith, Chapter Sixteen, Page 366
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Then he does the same to more:
>Vader called on the Force, leapt, and propelled himself up to the mouth of the tunnel. Deez and the captain had both taken a knee, blaster rifles planted on their shoulders as they fired into the lyleks trying to advance down the tunnel toward them. Vader casually loosed a blast of power down the tunnel mouth, destroying the leading lyleks and pushing half a dozen more backward. - Lords of the Sith, Chapter Sixteen, Page 369
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Here, Vader releases a TK wave that filled circumference of the cave, shattering the stalagmites and breaking the bodies of over 20 Lyleks:
>He fell deeply into the Force and loosed a wave of power from his outstretched hand that filled the circumference of the tunnel. The blast slammed into the charging horde, cracking exoskeletons, shattering stalagmites, and driving a score or more of the lyleks in the lead backward in a shower of broken bodies and broken stone. They squealed and chittered and flailed, and the lyleks following after scrambled over the fallen and wounded, their eyes fixed on Vader. - Lords of the Sith, Chapter Fourteen, Page 341
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Vader lifts Lylek and sends it flying through trees, killing it:
>Vader raised his hand, seized one of the leading lyleks with the Force, and flung it sideways into the trees. It struck a tree trunk as thick around as a man, and its ridged, spiked carapace cracked open, leaving it squirming helplessly at the base of the tree. - Lords of the Sith, Chapter Fourteen, Page 330
Note: Lyleks are 4-5 meter tall monsters whose armor can tank blaster fire, and who are strong enough to rip people to pieces with their arms.
>Lio grunted, and Jecki moved slowly away from the lylek even as mercenaries fled. But the lylek grabbed at them, pouncing several meters at a time. It got a man in its pincers and ripped him apart.
When Vader attacks the Knights of Ren, the very first thing he does is force crush one Knight to death, even though the Knights are force users:
Vader one shots bioweapon monster by crushing its neck with force:
Vader one-shots Wampa by crushing its neck:
Vader one-shots Lava Flea by telekinetically pimp-smacking it:
Note: Lava Flea is a large monster that is strong enough to destroy durasteel gates of Vader's castle and large boulders by slamming into them, yet it was easily one-shot with force by Vader:
Vader starts a "fight" with Cal by casually ragdolling and force-choking him:
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First time Ezra attacks him, Vader responds by ragdolling him, pinning him down with TK, and then toying with him by slowly moving his own arm toward his neck to kill him:
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When Cere attacks him in Fallen Order, Vader csaully thows her into lava below:
Vader defeats Valance, superhuman cyborg, by pinning him to the ground with force, while he did use lightsaber and force to deflect his previous attacks, this is the first attack of his own that he threw:
Enoosha, force user, attacks Vader, who instantly defeats her with TK:
>Enoosha screamed a third time and swept her blaster from her hip. Still running, she opened fire, pumping bolt after bolt into Vader’s form; her aim was perfect, but each bolt shorted out in a shower of sparks against Vader’s outstretched hand. That hand curled into a fist as Enoosha’s blaster was pulled out of her grip, and then she was yanked forward in an invisible, intangible vise, her feet leaving the floor as she hurtled through the air toward him. Then she stopped, the sudden deceleration whipping her head, arms, and legs forward as Vader suspended her body in front of him. He looked up at her as he slowly rotated her in the air, as if she were a specimen to be studied.
Vader freezes two Inquisitors in place so that they cannot move a finger, then makes them kill each other like puppets:
One shots Royal Guards trying to fight him:
Attacks Royal Guards by casually breaking their necks
Vader kills a group of Rebels when they attack him by crushing the massive fortified wall they are on to pieces:
He then kills other Rebels by chiking them to death:
When Luke, Chewbie, Han and others attack him, Vader easily instantly knocks them all out with TK while holding back:
Note: Vader was hit by powerful EMP before, and his suit was smoking and turning off, so he had trouble even standing, he needed to hit himself with electricity again to negate effects of EMP, but even so he did this.
When attacked by bounty hunter Sear with a flamethrower, Vader first deflects her fire, and then his first attack on her involves him casually force blasting her hard enough to instantly kill her:
Twi’lek shoots at Vader, who casually deflects blasts, lifts and chokes him into air, deflects his blasts while choking him at same time all casually, and then smashes him to death:
>A hatch on the far side of the hall slid open to reveal a purple-skinned Twi’lek man in makeshift armor. Seeing Vader, the Twi’lek’s head-tails twitched, his eyes widened in surprise, and he grabbed for the blaster at his belt. By the time the Twi’lek had the blaster drawn and the trigger pulled, Vader had his lightsaber in hand and ignited. He deflected the blaster shot into the wall, raised his off hand, and with it reached out with the Force. He made a pincer motion with his two fingers, using the Force to squeeze closed the Twi’lek’s trachea.
>The Twi’lek pawed frantically at his throat as Vader’s power lifted him off the deck, but to his credit he held on to his weapon, and gagging, dying, he managed to aim and fire his blaster at Vader again and again. Vader simply held his grip on the alien’s throat while casually deflecting the blasts into the bulkhead with his lightsaber. Then, not wanting to waste time, he moved his raised hand left and then right, using the Force to smash the Twi’lek into the bulkhead. The impacts shattered bone, and Vader let the body fall to the deck. A voice carried over a comlink on the Twi’lek’s belt. - Lords of the Sith, Chapter One, 32
Chokes to death Mustafarian knight
When attacked by Rebel spies, Vader ragdolls and breaks their necks while deflecting their fire at the same time:
Kills large group of soldiers with TK
Vader blitzes through and kills Rebels with TK, even turning one guy's head around 180 degrees:
one shots group of Crimson Dawn soldiers with TK
Vader blows away the massive durasteel gate of the Rebel stronghold then kills Rebels by throwing objects into them and by lifting and restraining one in air before slamming him to death:
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Vader pins the Rebel onto ceeling so that he cannot move a muscle and then kills him:
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Telekinetically kills another Rebel attacking him:
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Vader takes out a small army of Droids by tearing and exploding them to pieces, never touching any of them:
>There was a gasp from down on the main floor of the bridge—it sounded like Enoosha—and then a murmur began to grow among the clone troopers. Keel’s head snapped around as the holoimage showed Vader advancing on the B1 battle droids, his lightsaber flashing and flaring as he began to deflect the barrage of blaster bolts from the ship’s security force. “These actions are not within predicted parameters.” Keel’s blank eyes stared as the scene from deeper in the ship was relayed to the bridge. Not only were some of the battle droids being felled by their own reflected blaster bolts, but others were being torn to pieces by… By nothing at all. Vader by now had waded directly into the middle of the phalanx, and the droids, like swarming insects, rushed in and surrounded him. For a moment, Vader vanished in the scrum. And then the droids exploded, shattering into a thousand flaming fragments as Vader emerged, arms outstretched, from the center. He stood, lightsaber buzzing, as the remaining droids became little more than scrap metal, and he hadn’t touched any of them.
>Keel’s mouth opened as whatever remained of his human mind trapped inside the cyborg implant managed to express his surprise. Below, the clones actually cheered and clapped. A couple of their B1 guards prodded them with their blasters and ordered them to be silent, but most of the other battle droids on the bridge were actually standing transfixed by the sight of their fellows being utterly destroyed by a single man. The two standing at the front by the forward viewports actually looked at each other in alarm, and one of them began to shake in fear. On the other side of the bridge, Enoosha was standing, the horror clear on her face as she witnessed the power of Vader. Beside her, in the chair, Ziroon was also watching, but her expression was one of anger and hate. She pushed herself up from the chair, her fists curled in front of her. “This is no man,” she yelled. “This is a monster! It must be destroyed!” She looked up at the command platform, her finger pointing at the holoimage that now showed Vader standing motionless as Goth and the clone trooper cautiously stepped out of cover and looked at the carnage around them. “You have to destroy it! Send more droids! Kill it!” Oyuka, her eyes wide with fear of her own, turned to Keel. “Your plan doesn’t have a hope. We can’t kill him. Look at what he’s done!” She looked at the holoprojection. “We don’t stand a chance against him. He’s going to kill us all.”
Vader kills Cyn's group with force:
ragdolls soldier and snaps his neck
Takes out Leias bodyguards by choking them to death
crushes enemy by hiting him with boulder
Even though I posted alredy over 30 feats of his first attack against enemy that defeats them being TK, he has many more such feats.
There are also many instances where even if he did not start with TK, he used it seconds into fight like when his second attack against cyborg Rancor was trying to crush its neck, only not working becaue this was not normal Rancor, it was much larger cyborg made by Cylo, the best scientist with the Empire, who had to place plates of unknown material( likely Beskar) in place where neck was in order for Rancor to resist casual force crush by Vader.
Conclusion:
Yes, Vader will very much abuse force in fights. The idea that he forgets he has powerful TK and just uses sword instead, is simply not true.There are countless instances where he has abused force, both from the very start and very early on, seconds into fight, even when he did not start with it. When Vader does not abuse force reason is almost always that:
He is figthing powerful force user who can defend against it
He knows exactly how strong they are so he is toying with his enemy
The Emperor ordered Alpharius and Omegon to lead the alpha legion to disrupt and destroy the yuuzhan vong. Can they do it?
What are the tactics that the alpha legion will use to disrupt or even destroy the yuuzhan vong? Assuming the alpha legion has SOME knowledge of the yuuzhan vong leadership thanks to their informats.
Lets say rogal dorn gets to review the defenses of coruscant? What are the flaws that he will start seeing on the defenses of coruscant? What are some of the things that might impressed rogal dorn on the defenses of coruscant)
Note that we are going to use coruscant during the imperial era where palpatine ruled.
Turning Near-Humans and SW Human-Hybrids into Chaos Space Marines, New Men and mutated versions of New Men Primaris Astartes
Cloning powerful Force Users, even dead ones
Stealing the idea from the Death Spectres. Create female clones of powerful Force Users to have plenty of strong children to become Astartes. Abaddon would order Bile to do it. Traitor Legions and Red Corsairs would want it.
Inject Chaos-corrupted Midochlorians into Non-Force Users
Splicing DNA from multiple Xeno species to create Abominations. Splice DNA of Primarchs, Swarmload and Force Users
Experiment on the Vong and their Bio-tech
Find very diverse apprentices in SW and study the differences between them. Upgrade them and see how they use their new enhancements and Chaos gifts
As context, this is what the Planet Hells Teeth is known for
>ULTIMATE POWER
>Clues to the location of the Omnicopaeia are uncovered upon Hell's Teeth, a Daemon world on the edge of the Maelstrom. The Omnicopaeia, an arcane device that contains every STC with a psychic component, is of immeasurrablle value. Many billions of Skitarii are dispatched to Hell's Teeth with all haste. The entire Adeptus Mechanicus is abuzz- should the legendary Omnicopaeia be found, they will finally have a way to control, precipitate, and even weaponise Humanity's psychic dawn
To put it in simpler terms, STCs are technological relics from Mankind's golden age of technology when they were at the height of their power. During this time, they had technology that not only allowed them to permanently delete reality, but also allowed them to fight in 4 dimensions. So yes, that meant fighting mankind at their height meant that you also were going to deal with time traveling murder bots. But one of the Key features from Mankind's Golden Age was the psychic tech that they made, as this psychic tech was not only among the most complex tech made throughout the entire 65+ million history of the setting, but is also among the most powerful. In fact, pretty much every WMAD from Mankind's Golden Age had a psychic component to it.
So scenario: Hell's Teeth shows up in the Star Wars galaxy. Immediately, every leader in the galaxy gets notified, and now knows what is hidden on it, and why it is important. Suddenly they get reports of Warp rifts forming near the edge of the galaxy. The Adeptus Mechanicus, having discovered extra galactic warp gates originally sealed off by the Emperor after the 8th extra-galactic expedition, re-activated them and have discovered Hell's Teeth. And they come Armed to the teeth. Specifically, they have the Many Billions of the Legionnes Skitarii ready to deploy on the Daemon world, and to claim the Omnicicopaeia no matter what. Assume that the Daemon world is also armed to the teeth, and that guarding Hell's Teeth is a Heretic Fleet. How would the Star Wars galaxy react? Would they try to claim the STC for themselves, or try their hardest to stop anyone from claiming it too? What would be the military response, if any?
This is not about fighting btw.
In terms of:
Recruitment
Combined Arms Warfare
Logistics and Supply Chain
Organization/Structure
Equipment (Ex: Weapons and armor)
Combat Vehicles
Specialized Units (Ex: Veletaris storm section)
Better Technology
Strategy and Tactics
Also yall can include stuff at the top if its important.