r/SwainMains

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IMPERIAL MANDATE REWORK NEXT PATCH [26.11]:

Now builds from Blasting Wand + Bandle Glass + 700G (2400G)

Grants 65AP, 15AH, 150% Base Mana Regen

Unique - Control: Grants Immobilizing Abilities an additional +15AH

Unique - Command: When you immobilize an enemy champion, apply 6% Vulnerable for 4 seconds (Vulnerable means they take % increased damage)

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Last Swain rework siphoned a lot of power out of his R into his basic abilities and now the AP itemisation space is catching up to support Swain's utility-focused kit:

A more even distribution of power while focusing first and foremost on landing his E instead of Q cooldown and R1 with a focus on spell effects.

The 6% damage increase counts from ALL sources not just the champion with mandate, further investing on Swain's teamfighting identity

I personally suspect this item won't only be good for AP focused build paths like Mandate > Liandry > Zhonyas, but also more 'juggernaut' oriented builds like Mandate > Tank Items (Frozen Heart, Abyssal, Spirit Visage, Unending Despair), with Liandrys or Rylais being more optional.

This is one very important itemization fix: Swain will probably finally be able to build more tanky - juggernaut like items, ones he naturally wants to build after the 12.8 and 24.21 infinite ult reworks

- His damage won't be hitting as hard a ceiling (like with Malignance / BFT > Tank items builds), because of the way this new Mandate applies its 6% multiplier, has no Ratios or %AP multipliers in it

- He won't be having as much mana issues (compared to going something like Liandrys/Rylais into Tank items) thanks to the 150% mana regen stat new Mandate provides, so he can build tank items with a lot of haste with less fear of going oom. And a little extra side note here: with 30 Haste on his E he won't be missing any stacks like low haste juggernaut builds do (like Liandrys/Rylais into tank items)

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Nonetheless my suspicion is this new Imperial Mandate rework will be a satisfaction win for ALL roles.

Looking forward to see how itemisation shapes Swain's kit satisfaction, having been a strong advocate for further investigation and a possible rework myself for years now. As I've stated in the past, the core problem I see right now can be boiled down to a single simple sentence:

Swain's current optimal effective range is too high, especially during R. He should want to be at people's faces.

If Riot can achieve fixing that with itemisation changes, I'm all in for that. I can't wait personally to try out as many tanky builds with Mandate as I can, to see if Swain with this new item can be the AP juggernaut his kit naturally aspires him to be.

Pyke main here, I accidentally discovered what i see as the strongest unknown bot lane comp in this game, pyke swain APC. This comp is unbelievably strong. So I have a friend that doesn't play swain nor ADC but I convinced him to try the comp. He liked it soo much that we were spamming it for the past 3 days. Now, the thing is that we always stomp the lane, like S T O M P the lane. Take it to the highest level u can imagine. We end the lane with 5K gold lead minimum. But he NEVER was able to carry a single game. Like, at first I thought it's a skill issue because he doesn't play the champ nor the role, but when I actually watched some of the fights, the champ just seems to be dog shit?

Like take this for example, last game we played, we were vs a sivir. We annihilated the lane as usual, at some point of the game my friend sneaked into a bush and waited for her, when she showed up he used ghost and ulted. He had 3 items. Ryalis/malignance/liandry and most of blackfire. She had 2 items and t1 boots. She canceled his E with her shield then he Q R her. His Q and R dropped her to 35% HP. Then, she stood still and literally melted him with AAs to death and he couldn't even survive long enough to be able to hit her with another Q. My jaw dropped bro had 4.5K gold lead he should hit her like a hydrogen bomb. This literally happens exactly like this in every single fight in every game. He pushes R and the enemy team blows him up like if he is not giga fed. I refuse to believe this champ is that awful something must be wrong. He plays conquer

I know Swain’s goal is to end games before they reach late game. But just curious if you guys have ideas on how to make Swain competitive in the late game buildwise? Like how they made a build for Darius that addresses his main weakness (he’s slow so Youmuu’s + Deadman’s). I also understand that builds with Swain depends on enemy comp but I’m curious if there’s a general Swain equivalent build path addressing the late game? I’m also asking in the context where you have to face a heavy AD sustain like Riven, Ambessa, Rhaast (given that there’s already anti-heal for them) in Swain’s build. I’ve lost games where these champs have 1v4’d us because of purely outsustaining (Sundered Sky + Omnivamp boots + Death’s Dance + Endless Hunger). I know it’s also genuinely a matter of team diff lol but I’m asking what can I do as Swain to counter these guys in the late game (if possible lol). Also asking this as a midlaner.

Rylai’s
Blackfire
Unending Despair

Hello community

I'm curious which skin you prefer, which one you like the most and which one is definitely worth buying (in all aspects of the design)

Please vote, it will help me decide :)

I personally own Northern Front

Thaaaank you! 🙏🏻

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hello local generals
i decided i want to start maining master swain.
any tips on which lane to choose? where will i have the most fun and learn the most? and what about runes? 🐦‍⬛

I just started playing League of Legends and this week I spent looking for who will be my main champion and even playing them as my otp, Then I met Jericho Swain and needless to say, I was fascinated. It's not strange at all, my favorite science fiction character is Saruman from The Lord of the Rings, and in Swain I found a more warlike Saruman, and that's crazy.

But anyway, to the point, I really don't know how to play it. I tried one game and it went really badly, mainly because I'm used to characters that are too... mmm *unga unga* How do you usually play Sion, so you understand? haha I was going to watch tutorial videos and guides, but what better than to come with the real pros, those who have been with the champion for years and know him as well as they know themselves. So, what advice can you give me for someone who aspires to be a OTP Swain?

I was a top laner and played shen gragas malphite and swain. But top lane felt like shit and my champ pool is kinda ass so i figured i’d give bot lane a try since it was where swain was best. I completely dominated and so far i have a 63% wr with a 4.14 kda and im emerald 2. My only issue is i fucking suck at traditional adc so when they ban swain i’m not exactly sure who to pick. I’ve gotten lucky so far with smolder and ryze but i don’t have an actual pick and im afraid that i won’t be able to keep up with good players if they ban or really even counter swain. If anyone has any good backup champs for really bad matchups or when swain is banned in botlane please let me know.

Hi, I am master 300lp Swain main, not amazing but better than most.

Here is my suggestion for revamping Swain's passive, which goes along with buffing his health regen from 3 (+ 0.5 × lvl²) to 6 (+ 0.6× lvl²) and health values from 595 (+ 99 × lvl²) to 600 (+ 120 × lvl²)

Innate: Enemy champions that die will leave behind a Soul Fragment for 16 seconds. Swain's ravens will collect nearby dropped Soul Fragments, as well as rip the Soul Fragments out of champions hit by Vision of Empire or Nevermove's recast. Once a raven has collected a Soul Fragment, it will fly towards Swain to grant it to him, while also granting sight of its surroundings during the travel. Upon claiming a fragment, he will heal for 1.5% (+0.5% per level) of his maximum health.
Demonic knowledge:
As time progresses, Swain, through his ravens, learns the secrets of his enemies.
Every 300 seconds, more ravens spawn around the map, allowing Swain insight into said enemies, gaining the knowledge to increase his power to counter them.
(end of tooltip).

Tier 1 (five minutes):
Choose between:
150 health
300 mana
5 ability haste

Tier 2 (ten minutes):
Choose between:
20 ability power
2% movement speed
7.5% heal power

Tier 3 (fifteen minutes):
Choose between:
20 armor
20 magic resist
10 magic penetration

(After this point, the tiers are recycled with increased bonuses)

Tier 4 (twenty minutes)
Choose between:
300 health
400 mana
10 ability haste

Tier 5 (twenty-five minutes)
Choose between:
30 ability power
4% movement speed
12.5% heal power

Tier 6 (thirty minutes)
Choose between:
30 armor
30 magic resist
15 magic penetration

(After this point, the tiers are recycled with increased bonuses)

Tier 7 (thirty-five minutes)
Choose between:
450 health
500 mana
20 ability haste

Tier 8 (forty minutes)
40 ability power
6% movement speed
20% heal power

Tier 9 (forty-five minutes)
40 armor
40 magic resist
20 magic penetration

Tier 10 (fifty minutes)
etc etc etc...

BOTLANE BEST ROLE 每分钟 5 叠 E OUTDAMAGES MY Q 滥用基础伤害 ULTIMATE IS SOLOLANE GARBAGE 每秒造成 6 点伤害 E1 IS NOT A SPELL 我的E技能击中了小兵 AP BRUISER ITEMS 《万世之杖》不好

What's the best/ideal build with Swain in supp role ?