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Did WWE suck in between 2015-18?
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Did WWE suck in between 2015-18?

- Roman Reigns instantly pushed in between 2015-18, but he always got booed in Royal Rumble 2015, WM31 to 34. He kept fought with only few moves (which are Superman Punch and Spear), but he always got scheduled to lose. No mention of RAW shows right after the WrestleManias. He even got scheduled to won US and IC titles when he ran out of chances of having a major title shot. And he couldn’t cut a promo for god’s sake, (e.g. his infamous segment with John Cena in 2017, thank god their 2021 feud replaced this disaster and glad Roman killed The Big Dog gimmick)

- In 2016, when WWE brought brand division back, WWE assigned “Universal Championship” for RAW, which is a very ridiculous name for a major title.

- At the time of brand division in 2016, SmackDown logo was absolute horrendous. Glad they changed the logo with a better version in 2019.

- Brock Lesnar, who was being an UFC guy with his haircut, and who was preferring UFC to WWE at these times , he was not showing up all the time, especially after WM33. He didn’t show up at many major main events of PPVs. Major main events of PPVs are either replaced with a feud match or IC title match, Tag Team title match or so. Whenever Brock showed up, he never talked. Paul Heyman did all the talking, then Brock beat opponents ass with a F-5, then leave. Their segments were so boring, compared to Brock Lesnar post-2021.

- Seth Rollins got cheered by fans unlike Roman Reigns, but he couldn’t cut a promo either. Even if he did, the promos were not memorable compared to Seth Rollins post-2019. I think the real Seth “Freakin” Rollins made his debut when he turned heel in late 2019 (His 2015 run was decent though)

- Superstars like Sami Zayn found himself as a main eventer in beginning of 2017. On January 2017, he literally tried to beat UFC Brock Lesnar at RAW.

- Ryback and ESPECIALLY Samoa Joe couldn’t have a chance of winning a major title. But Kevin Owens and even Jinder Mahal had that.

- In Backlash 2018, in the match of Roman Reigns vs. Samoa Joe, some fans left the arena. Backlash 2018 was one of the worst rated PPVs, so other PPVs in between 2015-18.

- We all know that Brock Lesnar threw his title to Vince after WM34. Booking was horrible.

- A legendary main eventer like Randy Orton became a midcarder in 2018, he placed in a triple threat match for US Title in WM34.

- SmackDown 1000 was not legendary unlike RAW 1000. The Rock, actual inventor of SmackDown show, didn’t show up. All I see were Becky roasting Edge, obnoxious fans were booing Edge, and outdated Evolution feud from 2005, between Batista and Triple H.

- There are no memorable matches and feuds in between 2015-18. I didn’t know Spirit Squad returned to WWE in 2016 and Great Khali returned to WWE to help Jinder Mahal in 2017.

- In June 2017, a man named as Lavar Ball made his debut by dancing like Boogeyman. He also brought his sons or whatever. He absolutely failed at that promo. Also he said N-Word out of nowhere.

- Bayley vs. Alexa Bliss feud was mediocre.

- Bray Wyatt vs. Randy Orton at WM33 was horrible because it was a “worms” match, but they just projected a picture of worms from top to ring.

- Promos were horrible. Especially Roman Reigns’ infamous promo with John Cena in 2017. Also Sami Zayn and Bobby Lashley’s sisters promo and Alexa Bliss “it’s your life Bayley” promo were horrible.

- Matches were corny, boring and repetitive.

These are my opinions about these era. Only positive things were in SmackDown. AJ Styles’ and Dean Ambrose’s runs. Nothing else. And on RAW, Chris Jericho’s List run was decent. That’s it.

I think 2015-18 were one of the worst eras of WWE. Unfortunately, GM of RAW Kurt Angle witnessed one of the worst eras of WWE. So, what do you think about WWE in between 2015-18?

u/legthighkneelover — 3 hours ago

BREAKING:

"Cody's heel turn is one of the things they're discussing a lot about, many key people believe Cody's act is getting stale although he's still one of the biggest babyface act in the company. They won't turn Cody heel until Roman is gone or a full-on babyface.

Roman doesn't want to be a babyface. He is likely gonna stay heel until WM43. He will probably exile Solo and that will build up to The Rock's return - Solo will be taking Jey Uso's place. The reports I hear is that the idea is to get back on the road to WM40 if Cody wasn't around. They've changed a few parts obviously but the main story will be Rock coming back to reinstate Solo in the family and keep Roman in check.

Roman believes the program between him and Rock will work better with Rock as the good guy. The way it was always meant to be before Cody got in the way. So they can work a match with Roman as the heel but then Rock puts him over at Mania, turning Roman babyface in the process and getting a High Chief status.

Roman vs Knight 2 is in the cards. Solo will remain a babyface but it's yet to be known if there will be Roman vs Solo. They want to protect Solo now with the way how over he is with the fans. But he's listed as one of the favourites to beat Roman for the title eventually."

- WIR

u/Salty-Nothing-8572 — 9 hours ago

Adam Copeland (Edge) Needs To Retire In AEW And Not WWE

For many pro wrestlers, they want to retire for a well-known company. I mean, you can toss in something extra, like their match takes place from an arena that means something special, against the ideal opponent and maybe even at a major event like WrestleMania or SummerSlam. However, that scenario is not for everyone.

Three years and a day ago, Adam Copeland, who we all know as Edge, worked his last match for WWE. Before that, WWE tried to provide Edge with a moment that might make him happy to retire with them. He was booked in his hometown of Toronto and pinned Sheamus. It just wasn’t enough for Copeland, so he signed with AEW.

As for what happens next, Copeland isn’t out to shock anyone. He plans to retire in AEW, even though fans want him back in WWE for one more match. During The Ariel Helwani Show, Copeland had no harsh words for WWE. The two sides had a business agreement that simply expired and a new deal could not be completed.

“I’m good,” said Copeland. “I did everything I could do there, and then some. And again, they got everything out of me that they could have. So it’s for the better, which is all you can ask for in a partnership.”

His AEW contract was set to expire in October. However, time will be added on as he was away filming and he also broke leg and thus needed a hiatus.

For Copeland every match since 2020 counts. Before then, in April 2011, he was forced to retire right after retaining his title at WrestleMania. Like in the promo, Copeland said this wasn’t his choice. Instead, the doctors would no longer clear him to wrestle due to issues with his neck and back. Therefore, when WWE allowed him back in 2020, he knew this would be on borrowed time.

Personally, I think Copeland went to AEW to work with Christian Cage. They are best friends and basically came into the business at the same time. They currently are the AEW Tag Team Champions and I have to ponder what is left, once their title reign ends. They already feuded in AEW, so no need to repeat such vulgarity and violence. They could wrestle each other and then both retire after the match. They take off their boots and pads in the center of the ring. Tears roll-down their faces and that of the fans.

Or, they team one final time and put another duo over. There are so many tag teams in AEW and they have battled FTR so much, but those guys love working together; maybe even more than Copeland and Christian. The Dogs are another option, although that carries more risk as they’re not established. FTR, even if they’re not teaming right now, is the safe bet considering their proven record.

Copeland turns 53 years old in October and the only reason he is still wrestling is because of his forced retirement, which oddly extended his time inside a ring. I wouldn’t be surprised if Copeland was done by February 2026, if not sooner. Copeland decided to retire in AEW, not WWE, so the least we can do is respect his decision.

u/josephmlwriter — 4 hours ago

At that time The Rock delivered diabolical People's Elbow to Paul Heyman

From :

Rare dark footage of first meeting between Brock Lesnar and The Rock: From the WWE Vault

u/Beautiful-Bit9832 — 14 hours ago
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Is there a Wwe title reign in that sometimes makes you go “oh yeah I guess that did happen” for me it’s sgt slaughter as the Wwe champion

u/QualityRegular7727 — 1 day ago

Ik this isnt entirely related to wwe buy does anyone know how to get scratches out of ps4 discs as i want to play 2k19 and dont say use toothpaste

Thoughts on LA Parka?

Never forget the time the Saudi's asked for Yokozuna and Ultimate Warrior for that 50 man Royal Rumble bullshit in 2018 but they were denied because they were supposedly dead, meanwhile La Parka's been dead for decades but they got him no problem for this past year's Royal Rumble. Guess they should've paid more the first time around, could've gotten Yoko and Warrior to quit going into business for themselves and show up to fucking work for once.

u/Salty-Nothing-8572 — 1 day ago
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Jade receives too much unnecessary hate IMO

I just finished watching the Stevie Richards breakdown, of her match against Charlotte, last week on Smackdown. Granted, the video title is a bit 'click baity'.

Were there a couple off-moments? Sure. But there were even more good/great moments, where her timing, and psychology, were on point.

Its obvious that Jade is trying IMO, so I don't understand where all of the backlash comes from. Stevie even complimented her a few times.

Here is the link to his video btw, in case anyone is curious:
https://youtu.be/HW7T18gyJzk?si=gh1JNJXpzeaQN05R

u/One_With-The_Sun — 3 days ago

Oba Femi Vs Bron Breakker Will See Paul Heyman Turn Face

With Brock Lesnar retired, if you believe him, it leaves a giant void for Paul Heyman. During Lesnar’s two stints with WWE, Heyman was frequently by his side. Now, he could simply continue to be The Vision’s manager, looking for a singles superstar or work strictly backstage. Considering how much Heyman brings to TV, I hope that is where he stays.

On September 6 from the State Farm Arena in Georgia, Oba Femi meets Bron Breakker. Seemingly, this could be the first of a hundred bouts they have over the next 10 plus years in WWE. I haven’t lost faith that Breakker will be a top star and Femi is already in the main event thanks to Lesnar’s endorsement and the fans’ acceptance.

Ever since Lesnar retired, Heyman looks like a lost puppy. He continues to stay relevant by being on TV, but his interactions with Breakker haven’t been too pleasant. On the flip side, Heyman and Femi are on good terms after the Nigerian slayed “The Beast.”

I think heading into the match, Heyman will be the heel character. Then, we get a referee bump and out come The Vision. At first, Femi disposes of them with ease. Although, there are too many and they start to get the better of Femi. Enter Heyman who looks like he’s ready to join in on the fun. Instead, he low blows Austin Theory while Bron’s back is turned. By the time Bron realizes he’s been screwed, Femi is back to his feet. A Fall From Grace by Oba and a three count will end their first encounter.

After the match, Heyman leaves with Oba as they have formed a new alliance. While Oba continues to improve inside the ring and on the mic, he is green. Oba has only been wrestling for a few years, hence he’s a rookie. Let him focus on the in-ring skills as Heyman does what knows best, talking. With Heyman cutting most of the promos, Oba will be so much better wrestling-wise sooner than later. As they work together, slowly have Oba start cutting more promos.

If WWE sees Femi as the replacement to Lesnar, then follow the same pattern. Let Oba handle the physical work and Heyman can run his mouth. Of course, they eventually split and that will produce several more years of opponents.

Heyman is a special person and you can argue he is the greatest manager ever; and that includes the late Bobby Heenan. Yes, Heyman has a great mind and could work solely for WWE creative. Or, he could play a vital role in making Oba the new ruler of WWE, whilst still helping from time-to-time. Something big needs to happen at Sunday Night’s Main Event as Oba Femi takes on Bron Breakker, and Paul Heyman turning face would be that moment.

u/josephmlwriter — 1 day ago