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New glider lore Irmin reign = Tsaritsa reign [ Post it again ]

Irmin's rule seems to parallel the Tsaritsa's in several ways. resource scarcity, rising prices, worsening relations with Teyvat nation (even within their nations ) and a clear gap between ordinary people and those in power .. also both the tsaritsa and irmin r looking for a descender no matter what.

I accidentally placed the wrong pic so i re-post it

u/_nxicl — 10 hours ago

Why is almost every rebel’s solution either breaking all the laws of physics where humanity isn’t recognizable or creating a hive mind.

Then there’s Remuria and Phobos.

u/Scared-Opening-753 — 1 day ago

Ronova is OP if not bounded by rules.

Ronova cannot kill mortals easily, she follows the natural cause of death. The curse of death is one of the proof of it and mortals must resurrect again. She was also meticulous in protecting the mortals to deflect the attacks from the traveler. It shouldn’t be their cause of death considering it was indirectly caused by her.

She was too conscious as well to hide her true form to the mortals. Unless necessary, for example in the cataclysm.

She can fight traveler very well if there are no mortals around them, just like when Asmoday fights with the siblings, she went all out.

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u/kumano28 — 1 day ago
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Yeah, this is going to end badly.

Tsaritsa wants to take HP's place to creates a new world and frees humanity but how long until she becomes another HP ?

Also, do the Archons actually know about Tsaritsa's plan ? Because why would they willing to give Tsaritsa their Gnosis when she could have become another HP ?

u/AngelofIceAndFire — 2 days ago

How many rules you can name and explain?

Rules, curses, blessings, whims, whatever "saves the world or chains it".

With Snez release there was a lot talk about how rules a necessary and how stupid is to remove them, and after seeing it for some time I realized that I can't remember any rules with clear effects beside one mentioned by Piero "Gods obliged to love humans" and that by which angels turns into seeles when they fall in love with human(?).

As said for now, Light Realm is endless possibilities, and Dark Realm is possibilities that were not chosen (it was said, right?). If I understand that right, this means rules are constants of light realm (at least near Teavat), possibilities that are always chosen and so can't manifest from Dark Realm, like there never will be Abyss god who loves humans. Consequences of it remain unknown for me, cus it can mean that Abyss simple can't not be evil, or it can be another defensive measure that prevents humans from falling to "kind Abyss god" cus there is no kind Abyss god.

As for angels turning into seeles I have no idea, if we assume it was a thing from the beginning, and not only after Koitar fail.

So, back to the title, can you name and explain rules, preferably same as it was in previous paragraph or in a better way?

u/Chainiyprelord — 23 hours ago

7.1 Theory About Ronova (Leaks are included in the theory)

>!After completing the quest, I was confused why they were hammering the fact that Ronova needed to be "eliminated" or "dealt with by any means necessary" but I think this is actually good news for her... Well, in a certain way.!<

7.1 Leaks:

>!If they were going to kill Ronova in the upcoming patch, I don't think they'd keep repeating it to the audience, especially because that would ruin the shock value.!<

>!Anyway, Naberius and Rhinedottir are once again confirmed to be separate entities in the upcoming Archon Quests. This was obvious enough, but I'm going with two assumptions: first, Rhinedottir can't stop Naberius from listening to her conversations with people, and second, Naberius will reject the plan of permanently killing Ronova.!<

>!Next, I'm going to assume that Mistilteinn won't be strong enough to kill a shade at the end of Act 4, even if Rhinedottir helps them by interfering with the Curse of Death. So, the compromise will likely be sealing or trapping her, which will prevent her from interfering with Teyvat. Also, I think the boss fight with Ronova will start after she becomes aware of Rhinedottir's exploits.!<

>!Finally, the cliffhanger cutscene at the end of Act 4 is related to the Celestial Nails, so all of this is probably just cope. Either way, I do not believe her authority will be absorbed by anyone else, including Rhinedottir. !<

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u/PokemonGottacAT — 1 day ago

Alice has to be a creation of Celestia or at least from there

The hair and ahoge’s matching Naberius the coat tail designs matching 3/4 of the shades.

Her casual dismissal of the HP despite seemingly working to uphold their system.

The halo things in her hair

The godlike apathy and not understanding human concepts like empathy and loss (more an Asmo trait but gods all over Teyvat don’t understand human emotions to a degree)

She’s sus.

u/Scared-Opening-753 — 2 days ago

This is a comment on Vodyanitsa's drip marketing, the misinformation spreading in the main sub is sickening

u/Mtebalanazy — 2 days ago
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if a cute little flying thing would actually reveal itself to be the heart of a much larger terryfing thing i would have 2 nickels

u/Lau-Eur — 3 days ago

If you think about it if Celestia wanted to keep the outside world and halt technological advancement beyond the firmament then the knowledge of the False Sky should be banned just like the name to the Shades and Heavenly Principles not just redacted.

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u/Hopeful_Ad1609 — 2 days ago
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Snezhnaya's hypocrisy is so severe that it's actually brilliant.

Knowing almost all this even before Snezhnaya's release made me laughing in tears from this statement, and especially Pietro's words later. But I get why he says what he says, he's Khaenrian and would stop at nothing to achieve his goal. They are so full of themselves that they don't care about the fact that they became something way worse than Celestia they fight against.

For those who don't know, before this Ronova usually never fixed Leylines herself, as Irminsul did it for her... GUESS WHOSE SUBORDINATE FORCED IT TO BE DESTROYED?!

Fae were indeed a taboo, but to everyone's surprise, an overlooked one. They were favoured enough to the point that Beliy Tsar was given Archon position from Heavenly Principles despite being a creation of Hyperborean rebels, of all people.

And the last one here - again, for those who don't know, Snezhnaya's extreme cold was not caused by Celestia. Hyperboreans (who else, duh?) messed up with Cryo Dragon Sovereign's corpse and released this ultra-cold over the whole Teyvat. Celestia sent the nail to prevent said cold from spreading everywhere and mitigate Snezhnaya's suffering from it - Eye of Greae says is directly that before it Shezhnaya was almost 100% uninhabitable, even for most of the Fae, let alone humans.

So, yeah, I'd say that Shezhnaya is THE MOST favoured by the Gods among all nations, but sadly for it's people, one insane Fae and one immortal lunatic cause them to suffer more than they already had.

u/Loyal_to_Celestia — 3 days ago

What are your thoughts on the possible Naberius-Paimon connection?

Considering it has officially been confirmed that Paimon is a creation of Celestia how come Naberius is never brought up as her possible creator?

u/CMbladerunner — 2 days ago

About Pierro in version 7.3.

As for the schedule of Snezhnaya versions, if nothing is interrupted by external events, version 7.3 shall be released in December 16 this year, given all previous versions being of usual 6-week duration. It's the version where Tsaritsa becomes playable.

Here, we need two things to consider. Obviously, Snezhnaya based on Tsarist Russia, at least for most part for sure. And Hoyo LOVES symbolism, since it happens A LOT in their version releases.

This date in itself, December 16-th, isn't that known for Russia, even Tsarist one, unless you dig a bit deeper. On the night from 16 to 17 of December (old style), in 1916, Grigori Rasputin, close advisor of Tsarina, was killed in Moika Palace in Petrograd (currently Saint Petersburg). Russian nobles orchestrated this in order to free Tsarina from his toxic influence that he was enacting via her son. They also believed that this would make things better for a country during global war.

As those same records states, Rasputin was ridiculously hard to kill, surviving things that would otherwise instantly kill regular people and only succumbing to cold.

Judging from recent Archon Quest by Pierro's unapologetic willingness to sacrifice entire Snezhnaya if war with Celestia goes this way AND his extremely close position to Tsaritsa, I coul not miss such a theory given that so many things align one way or another.

So there it goes: as I am convinced, in 7.3 we will be fighting Pierro, who becomes a Weekly Boss, in order to save Snezhnaya from being annihilated in the following war with the Heavenly Principles, regardless of who wins in that war.

Yet another argument for this is in this picture over here. Old one, but still works. Some of you certainly remember it.

Every single Fatui Harbinger with their faces siding left becomes a Weekly Boss, no matter if they turned out to be playable or not.

Pierro is the only one remaining, and I don't think that tradition is going to end with him.

u/Loyal_to_Celestia — 3 days ago
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Ever wonder how HP felt?

I know we're all having festivity with the nuke memes and stuff but we also know that the Heavenly Principles wasn't at all uncaring and bloodthirsty towards humanity like how others try to portray them to be.

In the book Before Sun and Moon, it said that Humanity was the Heavenly Principles' most cherished. And yet in my years of playing this game, I have never once saw somebody wonder how HP felt when they were forced to choose to kill a certain population of their cherished children just to save the whole bunch.

Not even just that, it came to the point that they started to become paranoid because of it. It took me back to Scaramouche's story, if this puppet made to be a standby for God could only take three betrayals, then what more could Phanes take before they snap from being backstabbed by their own children and supposed family?

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u/Loyal_to_Celestia — 3 days ago