r/TheProsecutorsPodcast
My theory on the Robert Wone case
I’ve followed this case before, but today was the first time I heard the full seven-minute 911 call on the podcast. Viktor’s voice strikes me as very performative and almost scripted, but listening to the entire call gave me a new theory about why the three of them were so ironclad about covering for each other.
My theory is that Dylan and Viktor may both have been involved in Robert’s death, possibly unintentionally, and Joe then helped them cover it up. A lot of the theories seem to struggle to explain their motive, but I wonder if it was rooted in jealousy and insecurity toward Robert, especially because of his long history with Joe. Perhaps drugging Robert was initially meant to give them some sense of power or control over someone they perceived as a potential romantic rival for Joe’s affection, only for things to escalate far beyond what they intended.
The reason I think it could have been both of them is that Dylan and Viktor, being in a throuple and both in relationships with Joe, may have had some kind of underlying competition with each other. They also knew that Robert and Joe went way back, and that Joe had even hosted a surprise birthday party for him, which suggests Robert was someone particularly important to Joe. So I wonder if there may have been some jealousy or insecurity toward Robert on the part of Dylan and Viktor.
I know some people assume that jealousy shouldn’t really exist in a polyamorous relationship, but I don’t think being poly necessarily makes people immune to jealousy, insecurity, or competition. If anything, I wonder whether that dynamic could have made Robert’s presence particularly uncomfortable for both of them. Robert wasn’t just some random friend visiting DC. He was someone with a long history with Joe, someone Joe clearly cared about, and now he had moved to DC and was staying in their own home. I could imagine that creating a sense of territoriality or resentment toward Robert, especially if both Dylan and Viktor were independently sensitive about Joe’s relationship with him. In that sense, I wonder whether the underlying jealousy between the two of them, rather than simply one person acting alone, could have contributed to a growing hostility toward Robert.
I also wonder whether Dylan might have been the one capable of inflicting the unusually precise stab wounds. I read in his bio that he trained at the Culinary Institute of America as a chef, which is obviously a very knife-intensive profession. Another detail that caught my attention is that he had also trained in massage in Thailand. Obviously, that doesn't prove anything by itself, but it made me wonder whether he might have been more comfortable than the average person with handling the body and dealing with the physical aftermath of an injury, including potentially cleaning up blood or disturbing the scene afterward.
That said, if Dylan had killed Robert entirely on his own, I have a hard time understanding why the other two, especially Viktor, would go to such lengths to cover for him at their own expense. Viktor even called 911 and essentially put on a performance that would become part of the official record.
Think about it: if Dylan was the only one responsible, why would Viktor, who was arguably in a complicated relationship dynamic with him, voluntarily put himself in the middle of it instead of simply letting Dylan make the call himself?
That’s why I’m starting to wonder whether Dylan and Viktor were both involved in whatever happened to Robert, perhaps with some kind of jealousy or conflict over Joe as the underlying motive, and Joe then helped them cover it up.
Plot of New LAO
My version of pathway the format of EVERY case the new LAO pursues:
Violent intro where you can always guess who the victim will be unlike in the original series (although after watching a few episodes, the viewer soon learns how to guess even that).
First suspect arrested after initially fleeing from cops (usually after knocking over a fruit or magazine stand).
Eventually viewer is able to determine with complete confidence, which key piece of evidence that will PROVE defendant was guilty will be kicked out by trial judge for no valid reason .
Actual perpetrator is now arraigned by Maroun..
Perpetrator is always remanded to custody with no bail or super high bail to add tension.
Eventually, actual bad guy is arraigned by Maroun and is properly remanded to custody (because suspect did it and is a POS).
Immediately after arraignment, Defense attorney is handed copy motion to dismiss by perpetrator's defense attorney that the viewer already determined what it was and it is invariably the key evidence that had already been guessed correctly by viewer.
The trial judge nvariably throws that piece of evidence out for no valid, legal reason.
Trial begins now with a case so bad, the prosecution would likely plea down in real life.
10 Eventually Maroun has crisis of conscience and gets angry, and viewer begins to wonder why she ever became an assistant DA.).
Key piece of evidence is bounced by judge, generally on a filmsy technicality that angers viewer because its so stupid in middle of case.
Good case has now become crappy case and is now being fought in court despite this.
DA office or detectives ordered by the DA to find new evidence that is the smoking gun they should of discovered in the first place, Viewers are now relieved.
Defense attorney asks witness on stand a question that would get defense attorney disbarred and the judge properly overrules the objection.
Camera pans jurors showing new skepticism after the hint of what the answer would have been if the question in 14 would have been allowed; leading viewer to conclude that at least some jurors will apparently be deeply affected to void any possibility of guilty verdict.
Price makes brilliant closing statement making statements he SHOULD have made in his opening statement (expressed as what he intended to prove which he can legally state).
Jury does not make jury nullification argument to aquit and finds the defendant guilty.
Caroun's eyes glisten because she abandoned her every shred of integrity or morality..
Some episodes may follow a different model... but not many.
WHO’S AFRAID OF LADONNA HUMPHREY? AN ARKANSAS STORY THE TRUE-CRIME COMMUNITY NEEDS TO HEAR.
What happens when someone who presents herself as an advocate for victims becomes the subject of serious allegations of victimizing others?
Meet LaDonna Humphrey.
A true-crime author, former CrimeCon speaker, missing persons advocate and leader in the sober living community, Humphrey has built a public image around helping vulnerable people. But an investigative podcast has brought forward disturbing allegations about what may have been happening behind that image.
AND THIS ISN’T JUST ABOUT ALLEGATIONS. THERE IS A DOCUMENTED $3.57 MILLION CIVIL JUDGMENT.
In 2019, a Benton County court entered a $3,570,977.88 judgment against Humphrey following litigation involving evidence-related sanctions and contempt findings. The court also entered permanent injunctions.
Humphrey pursued further legal challenges, but a federal appeals court dismissed her 2025 appeal concerning the bankruptcy sale of her appellate rights, leaving that sale intact.
THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME FORWARD
Investigative journalist Javier Leiva examines these allegations in Season 18 of PRETEND: Who’s Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey?
The investigation includes several particularly troubling accounts:
Alecia Lockhart: Humphrey’s former friend, podcast co-host and co-author describes nearly two years of frightening anonymous threats. She later discovered evidence that led her to suspect the person she had trusted throughout the ordeal. Humphrey denies creating or operating the account in question.
The Melissa Witt and Maura Murray cases: The podcast raises questions about Humphrey’s handling of sensitive investigative materials in the Witt case. Maura Murray’s sister, Julie, has also described concerns about Humphrey’s involvement in her family’s search for answers.
Humphrey’s own family: Her sister, Margo Elston, discusses family estrangement and receiving anonymous threatening messages. She has not definitively identified Humphrey as their sender.
Women in recovery: Former residents and staff of Oasis of Northwest Arkansas have raised concerns about their experiences and Humphrey’s leadership. Oasis’s board has publicly defended her leadership and the organization’s operations.
AND THE ONLINE CONTROVERSY CONTINUES.
r/LadonnaHumphreyTalk, has been discussing the investigation, examining publicly available information and sharing perspectives on the allegations.
WHY SHOULD YOU CARE?
Because families searching for missing loved ones, people reporting harassment and women seeking recovery deserve trustworthy advocates.
When someone occupies positions of public trust, serious allegations about their conduct deserve examination, particularly when there are documented legal proceedings alongside firsthand accounts.
I’m sharing this because I believe people should hear these stories, examine the evidence and make informed decisions about whom they trust.
DON’T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. START HERE:
The complete PRETEND investigation:
https://thisispretend.com/seasons/ladonna-humphrey/
The original $3.57 million Arkansas civil case:
https://caseinfo.arcourts.gov/opad/case/04CV-18-2961
The federal appeals court decision:
https://ecf.ca8.uscourts.gov/opndir/25/07/241854P.pdf
Arkansas Business reporting:
https://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/humphrey-appeal-dismissed-3-57m-judgment-upheld/
Reddit — True Crime and Ethics:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrimeandEthics/s/jw5Dp0SJlM
Reddit — LaDonna Humphrey Talk:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LadonnaHumphreyTalk/s/ATiYIoNLAp
Listen to the podcast. Read the court records. Hear from the people who have come forward. Draw your own conclusions.
The true-crime community and the families of missing persons deserve transparency, accountability and responsible advocacy.