UK medical training: is the new approach actually evidence-based?
BMJ article on the changes to medical training and their potential impact. Curious to hear what others think.
BMJ article on the changes to medical training and their potential impact. Curious to hear what others think.
Hello everyone.
I am an overseas IMG, 2 years GMC registered, through Plab pathway. I have 5 years clinical experience with no clinical gaps, 9 months SHO level experience, royal college exams, all relevant courses, teaching, training and leadership experience, I also have 2 Audits, and 1 publication.
I have completed 2 months clinical attachment and tried to do as much as possible there. I also have led an NHS audit and presented it.
My CV reviewed many times. I most of the times meet all the essential and desirable criteria. I have applied for 480+ jobs continuously in the last ~2 years but have not been able to secure any jobs so far.
Can anyone please tell me if doctors without NHS experience still getting interviews? What have you done differently?
I have started this pathway in 2022, If I knew the situation, I would never go for it.
Thank you very much for your help.
This is a research paper published independently by IMG doctors in the NHS based on the FOI access request to the NHS.
Recruitment by ethnicity and country of qualification
UK graduates accounted for 17,939/36,983 (48.5%) of applicants in 2021, falling to 24,082/80,583 (29.9%) in 2024 (Supplemental Table 10). Success rates for UK-qualified applicants declined from 44.5% (7987/17,939) in 2021 to 35.5% (8546/24,082) in 2024, whereas for non-UK graduates fell from 22.8% (4334/19,044) to 9.5% (5345/56,501) (Figure 4; Supplemental Table 10). Overall, the success rate for UK graduates (32,199/79,085, 40.7%) exceeded that of non-UK graduates (20,530/132,610, 15.5%) by 25.2 p.p. (95% CI 24.8–25.6, p < 0.001)
This paper itself is enough to discredit ALL THE FALSE NARRATIVES about competition ratio and going unemployed and what not.
Why isn't this paper not posted in this subreddit yet?
Hi everyone,
Has anyone received a new IMT/ACCS-IM offer since 17 August, following the addition of the new training posts?
If yes, could you please share your rank and the region/post you were offered? It would be helpful for those of us still on the reserve list to understand whether offers have started moving.
Thanks
SCAM ONGOING, BEWARE: My 10-month nightmare with Publish Pro / Medical Students Network research “mentorship”
I paid ₹25,000 for a research mentorship program that promised a finished systematic review in 6–8 weeks. That was almost ten months ago. I still don’t have a draft, a working mentor, or my money back. I’m writing this all out because I’ve watched other people’s complaints about this organisation quietly vanish from their pages, and I want a permanent record of what actually happened.
It started simply enough. Publish Pro, run under something called Med Students Network, offers paid mentorship for systematic, literature, and narrative reviews. You pay upfront, they assign you a mentor, form a small group of candidates working together, and the whole thing is supposed to wrap up in six to eight weeks. Buried in tiny print in the contract was a line saying no refunds under any circumstances. I didn’t think much of it at the time, because why would I need a refund from a program that takes two months?
After I paid, all communication moved to Telegram. No formal channel, nobody to hold accountable, just a group chat. And then the silence started. Weeks went by. Emails, calls, messages, nothing. The only thing that ever got a response was threatening to escalate. Once I did that, a “new” mentor suddenly appeared, handed us a topic, told us to get started, and then disappeared again for another two months.
Eventually I was told my original mentor was unwell and had been replaced by a second one. Here’s where it got strange. While I was messaging this “new” mentor, I received a message clearly meant to come from the first mentor’s account. It was deleted within seconds and the exact same message was instantly resent from the second mentor’s account. Same wording, same moment, two different names. That’s when I realized it was the same person the entire time, just switching identities to buy more time.
Not long after, a third “mentor” showed up with the same excuses. At one point someone in the group was told to prepare a draft, but none of us actually knew who this person was or whether they were even real.
Meanwhile I noticed other people commenting publicly, asking where the service they paid for was. Those comments would disappear within a day or two, and the people who posted them would get blocked. I eventually got blocked too, on Instagram, for asking why they weren’t responding, and later on Telegram, for pushing for a refund.
The last straw was when I emailed asking to withdraw and get my money back. Their reply was that I needed to confirm my “continued interest” by a certain date, or I’d be moved to a different project. I had already been stuck in the same non-moving project for a full year at that point. Moving me to a new one would just mean starting the cycle over again.
Here I am now, nine to ten months in, ₹25,000 down, with zero completed work and zero refund. The whole thing feels designed to run out the clock. They never say no outright, they just delay, swap mentors, and stonewall until people give up and walk away.
If you’re thinking about signing up for this, read the refund clause before you pay anything, and ask current group members directly how their timelines have actually gone. If you’re already stuck like I am, screenshot everything now while it’s fresh, and look into a payment chargeback or a consumer complaint, even this far in.
If anyone else has dealt with Publish Pro or Medical Students Network, I’d really like to hear it in the comments. Screenshot your comment before you post it, because theirs tend to disappear too.
attached the link to their website instagram
If you’re an IMG and waiting for offer. Government have announced 259 additional training spots for start date of Feb 2027. So login to your oriel and adjust your preferences.
Correction 350 posts
As above
The BMA Scottish Resident Doctors Committee elections are now underway!
We are delighted that two Better Together candidates have already won local seats, and we now need your support for our endorsed IMG candidates standing in the Scottish RDC elections:
🇪🇬 Mohamed Elbanna
🇮🇶 Zain Alabdeen Al-Mosawy
If you are eligible to vote in Scotland, please support Mohamed and Zain and encourage your colleagues to vote too.
We want to ensure that IMG voices are strongly represented, while building a BMA that represents and brings together all resident doctors.
Every vote matters. Every voice matters.
🤝 BETTER TOGETHER — representing all doctors, together.
BMA’s RDC nominations are open. Here are the reasons why IMGs should stand for election and take their representation back.
The current RDC has been extraordinarily effective at one thing: excluding IMGs from the future of the profession.
Who’re they then?
The RDC (Resident Doctors Committee) is the BMA committee that represents resident doctors across the UK and sets policy on issues affecting their pay and careers.
Their records last year speak for themselves:
* Asking us to strike and lose pay to stand in solidarity for “the profession”, then creating policies that shut us out of training.
* Driving training prioritisation politically, against all of us, even against those with substantial experience in the NHS.
* Abandoning the BMA policy that supported two years of NHS service, while negotiating five years behind closed doors with the government.
* Then watching silently the government ripping us from training with citizenship and ILR proxies, without any pushback to protect IMGs who supported them in the strikes.
* Extending the five-year of ILR to five years of NHS service. One exclusionary measure after another without any consideration to how their policies affect our lives.
* Treating years from our own lives as arbitrary numbers, putting an auction on how many years should we wait before we can even apply for training, until reaching an arbitrary fifth anniversary.
* Sending the government letters that CREST are fraudulent and full vulnerabilities, incredibly damaging the narrative about the IMG legitimacy.
* Watching rhetoric developed repeatedly in hostile Reddit discussions about IMGs, oversubscription, opening the floodgates, and fraudulent CREST, and then migrate them into BMA under sanitised terms such as “workforce planning”, “bottlenecks” “deprioritisation” and “competition ratios”, then taking them to the government.
* Spending enormous political effort fighting IMG access to training while full pay restoration, the cause doctors were actually asked to strike for, was progressively diluted.
* Accepting a poor deal settlement while delivering something far more consequential for many IMGs: restricting their career progression.
* And discovering, eventually, that repeatedly asking IMGs to sacrifice their pay while campaigning against their futures was not a sustainable industrial strategy.
We were valuable when the BMA needed numbers for the strikes. We became disposable when they sat with the government behind closed doors.
They sacrificed full pay restoration in favour of IMGs exclusion.
If you want representation, take it yourself.
Nominate yourself. Run for the RDC.
Unfortunately, this is exactly why I am urging doctors across Scotland to vote for our candidates.
It is deeply disappointing to see a BMA official discouraging people who want to contribute to medical politics in Scotland from putting themselves forward. The BMA is a democratic trade union. Members have every right to nominate themselves, stand for election and allow their colleagues to decide who should represent them.
Disagreement is part of democracy. Telling people that they “shouldn’t be representing doctors” because you disagree with them is not how we should conduct that democratic process.
I urge everyone eligible to vote in Scotland to support candidates who will challenge this kind of behaviour and defend an open, inclusive and genuinely democratic BMA.
Is it worth applying for IMT as a non priority doctor?