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Tax compliance - too far in to do anything about it?

I decided to become compliant through the streamlined process at the end of 2024. My reasoning at the time was wanting to avoid a nasty surprise at retirement when I take my pension distribution. I was not ready to renounce so I contacted an expat tax specialist and got my first tax bill - over $50k, and for a reason I can’t quite fathom today, I filed. My tax preparer continued to work through my tax years and in total I will owe multiple times that amount. This is primarily because of pension contributions and buybacks for missed contributions that have reduced my taxable income in my country of residence but increased my US taxes. (I was also very ill informed about this clearly.)

I have since renounced because I literally couldn’t afford to keep my passport - I didn’t want to, but I’ve accepted it. I still have $80k left to pay. I’ve had to take out loans to be able to pay my taxes! At this stage I am so upset that I didn’t just renounce when it all started even though that’s not compliant. But that’s in the past and I can’t change it. Now I’m wondering if I should just ignore my remaining amount and forget about it. I do have a US bank account and may inherit some money from my parents but not a lot. I go back a couple times a year.

I hate that I was trying to do the right thing and am literally paying for it. Are there ANY other options?

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u/PlusCap2285 — 4 days ago

UK based US citizens managing their own assets?

American living in Uk, two tax obligations/jurisdictions/returns. Had a wealth advisor for past few years. Nice guy, gives me perspective, but not worth the AUM fee. If I could go “fee-only” I would (but they don’t exist for dual tax jurisdictions like this). My accountant is great. I’m thinking, maybe I scrap the wealth advisor (I’m really only in dual reporting funds anyway) and just pay advice tax advice calls with my accountant when I want to do anything specific. Seems just as effective (and a lot cheaper), than current setup. But I guess I lack confidence and am worried I will miss some gigantic “gotcha” or loophole between the two systems.

Anyone else been on this journey already?

Thanks!

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u/Active_Particular_36 — 3 days ago

FBAR - more than 25 accounts due to account maturity

I have 2 self owned and about 18 joint accounts. Previous years I FBAR filled in Part 2 and Part 3 with each accounts max value in the year.

Last year about 10 of the joint accounts matured. Matured accounts got closed during the year (but had non-zero max value - on the day of closure; end of year their value was 0) and new accounts which basically continued the closed ones also have a non-zero max value. I have total of 30+ accounts.

Part I - Question 14 - Do you have more than 25 accounts. <The answer for me is yes>.

If "Yes" is checked do not complete Part II or Part III, but retain records of this information.

Am I supposed to file with just Part I filled - Part II and Part III empty?

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u/neewman — 5 days ago

Tax Confusion - US to UK Expat

My parents took in in February 2026 so I made a mad dash back from the US to the UK without knowing how long I'd be staying for. I have both British and American citizenship and I worked for a US company that let me work remote for 3 months, but eventually took a job in the UK as my parents required long-term support. I am trying to figure out how best to file my taxes with HMRC. I'm assuming (maybe incorrectly) that I'll only owe on the portion of my 25/26 wages that I earned while working in the UK for Feb, March & April, which will be around $9000, but have no idea how to go about letting them know & calculating everything.

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u/Junior_Reply6257 — 5 days ago
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Social Security before Age 67

Hi, I am 63 and living/retiring in Australia. I am a dual citizen with the US, and eligible for US Social Security. As I am easing out of the working life, I wanted to start to draw down on my US Social Security.

I have read a bit on the pros and cons of starting early, and was ready to apply.

Then I came across this odd provision applying only to American citizens living overseas under the normal retirement age of 67. If I work more than 45 hours in a month, I am not eligible for Social Security in that month, with penalties for not reporting it. The wording of the rules was a bit odd, but it seems I would simply forfeit that months' benefit and never get it back.

Can anyone confirm or provide more clarity?

Thanks!

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u/BendIllustrious7436 — 13 days ago

How can I find a good tax advisor for my expat situation?

I am an American who just got a work contract with a European Union country. I have the option to live and work remote from the USA but they could also assist me in getting a visa to work in and live in the EU. This means I can consider many different countries and the amount I could save on taxes depending where I live would possibly entice/justify living overseas rather than staying in the US.

How would I go about finding someone who specializes in this and can offer advice? I of course would pay for their time and advising, but I don't know where to start in finding this type of tax advisor.

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u/Chalkdarts — 13 days ago

US citizen resident in Spain: treaty “three-bite” &amp; Pub. 514 rules interpretation/application

I’m a US citizen and Spanish tax resident, living in Spain with my Spanish/US-citizen wife. I’m working through our 2025 US return (our 2025 modelo 100s were filed back in June) and I'm trying to make sure I’m applying the US-Spain treaty correctly, particularly the special foreign tax credit rules for US citizens resident in Spain.

I’d appreciate a sanity check from anyone familiar with the treaty and Pub. 514.

My understanding is:

  • For a normal Spanish resident who is not a US citizen, the US-Spain treaty allows the US to impose up to 15% withholding on ordinary US-source dividends.
  • Interest is treated differently (the 2014 technical explanation appears to have changed the treaty treatment of US-source interest to a zero withholding rate), and ordinary portfolio capital gains are generally taxable only in the seller's country of residence.
  • As a US citizen resident in Spain, however, the treaty’s saving clause means the US can continue to tax me under its normal worldwide-income rules. So I don't think I should be trying to have my US brokerage withhold the treaty's 15% dividend rate.
  • Instead, the treaty's special double-taxation provisions for US citizens resident in Spain, together with the rules described in IRS Pub. 514, provide the mechanism for dealing with the double taxation.
  • In particular, Pub. 514 has the additional foreign tax credit worksheet for treaty-resourced income. My understanding is that the worksheet's Step II uses the treaty rate (15% for dividends) as a counterfactual/source-country limitation, rather than meaning that I actually need to have 15% withheld by my brokerage.
  • Therefore, my current thinking is to leave US brokerage withholding at zero, report the dividends/interest/capital gains normally on the US return, and use the Pub. 514 worksheet to calculate the additional FTC resulting from the US-Spain treaty.

The issue I'm particularly trying to resolve is timing.

Spain's foreign tax credit is based on foreign tax actually paid, rather than simply a US tax liability that has accrued. Since I generally file my Spanish return before filing the same year's US return, I don't see how trying to force a 15% US withholding event would necessarily be the right solution. It seems cleaner to me to let the treaty's Pub. 514 mechanism handle the US-side relief rather than trying to manufacture withholding at the brokerage level or create a Spanish FTC timing mismatch by having the US tax paid in a later year.

I'm preparing separate Form 1116 categories for the relevant income (basically one for passive income and one for general income), and I'm trying to understand how the treaty re-sourcing interacts with those categories. Pub 514 explicitly says "You do not have to file Form 8833 if you are claiming the additional foreign tax credit that is allowed by reason of the limited re-sourcing rules discussed previously. See Regulations section 301.6114-1(c) for more information." My understanding is that the treaty re-sourcing doesn't change the underlying FTC category, so, for example, dividends, interest, and portfolio capital gains that are otherwise passive would continue to be reported on the passive-income Form 1116.

Does this overall approach sound correct?

In particular, I'd really appreciate feedback on:

  1. Whether I'm correctly interpreting the 15% dividend rate as a treaty limitation that feeds into the Pub. 514 calculation, rather than something I need to have withheld.
  2. Whether zero US withholding + the Pub. 514 additional-credit worksheet is the appropriate approach for a US citizen resident in Spain.
  3. Whether I'm missing anything important about the timing of Spanish tax actually paid vs. US tax paid.
  4. How others are handling the dividend, interest, and capital-gain categories under the Spain treaty.

I'm not looking for tax-planning advice so much as a check that I'm understanding the treaty mechanics correctly. If anyone has worked through the Spain treaty / Pub. 514 worksheet in practice, I'd especially appreciate hearing how you handled it.

Here are some references that I found useful...

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/form-1116-certain-income-re-sourced-by-treaty-youtube-video-text-script
https://www.reddit.com/r/USExpatTaxes/comments/1fyqdl9/1116_for_resourced_interest_dividends/
https://mcgowintax.com/articles/how-the-us-spain-tax-treaty-actually-taxes-your-interest-income/

u/lespedeza_ — 14 days ago

free file fillable forms didn't submit my forms?

hi, i used FFFF for the first time this year and my returns were initially accepted but i just received a letter in the mail saying i did it wrong and actually owe $5k. i am a long time uk resident and pay taxes here and do notttt make enough to be double taxed.

i phoned the irs and she said she could only see the 1040 on her end but i definitely submitted a 1040, schedule A, and 1116. has anyone else had this issue where FFFF doesn't submit all your forms? I realise now i also need an 8833. should i just start over and hope it actually works this time? or is it better to print and mail these forms in. thank youuu

edit: chatgpt says i need a schedule 3, not an 8833. does this track? So: 1040, sched 3, 1116?

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u/Smokeysnowballs — 14 days ago

Election change for 8621

Election taken MTM in prior couple years. Need to update it to default election (1291) as marketability of investment is debatable. The PFIC is sellable and buyable from the corporation / provider to anyone all 365 days,. It is not traded on regular stock exchange, but available from the bank selling the ULIP policy. Policy holds mutual fund like investment underneath. Every CPA has their own interpretation. Planning to update the election to 1291 (excess dist) in 2025. Will it be allowed to change in prior with amendment ? 

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u/Cakes2022 — 13 days ago