With the ultimate universe having ended I’m considering selling my single issues and picking up the new tpb’s that have been announced. I think it’ll be much easier to re read them that way and will free up some space in my long boxes. Has anyone else done this?
Was reading Hickman’s fantastic four which has a lot of imagery and foreshadowing that evokes the maker and wondered if this lesson from Reed’s dad meant something more
no clue if this has been addressed in or out of universe (cos i havent stayed caught up with them), but how would the picotech suit interact with a true klyntar symbiote? would they be able to hear each other? would it be like a human looking at an animatronic? could they just fuse into one? could the picotech scan the symbiote's personality like it did with peter?
I'm planning on collecting some TPBs (I already have Ultimates from 1to 3, and planning on buying UXM, Ultimate Invasion, Ultimate Endgame and maybe Spider-Man)
So, is this comic essential to understand The Ultimates story as a whole or I can skip it?
I like how this random panel from a random comic from the 80s surprisedly predicts a lot of things.
Peter getting killed by Doc Ock
Red Goblin
Sony and Spider-Man
Digital comics
Peter’s son having the black suit.
I disliked the individual books for a number of reasons, but there was one overarching reason that was hindering my enjoyment of every book in the same way.
There are generally two approaches to alternate realities in Marvel comics:
There's the "What If...?" route, where the universe is identical to 616 with the exception of one famous plot point that goes in a different direction. Typically, the plots of these What If...? stories extrapolate logically from this focal point, i.e. "if character A didn't do X, then Y never would have happened either," and so on.
The reality is often radically different in whatever way the writer wants, without the need for any logical through-line. For example, in the Cosmic Ghost Rider timeline, Frank Castle made a series of questionable decisions regarding his soul. The decimation of all life in the universe by Thanos wasn't a consequence of any decision Frank Castle made, just the premise for this particular reality.
What drives me nuts about the Ultimate Universe is it explicitly follows the model of the first approach. The Maker goes to a reality identical to 616 and deliberately makes specific changes to prevent its most famous heroes/defenders from coming into power.
Okay.
But there happen to still be dozens, if not hundreds, of superpowered characters running around anyway despite the Maker's manipulations and goals. Some are under his control or influence. Most aren't.
It's like, oh by the way, not only is Gwen Stacy Mysterio for some reason, but she's just one Mysterio of several. How is that something that happens in this universe?
To say nothing of how in the initial Invasion story, the Maker's decades of planning are undone after one meeting with Howard Stark.
There just isn't any cohesion to the premise of this line, and it's endlessly distracting to me.