
I remember reading this and Henry's reaction to his own punch was killing me lmao
In the Depths of Immortality pg 12 by u/International_Foot27

In the Depths of Immortality pg 12 by u/International_Foot27
(This is based on what if the fnaf 4 teaser represents the reaction of the fnaf 4 bullies to the Bite of 83’)
by affa_affa014 on X
I’d take my back and ride home.
1st slide is context
lowk embarrassed, but uh yeah
ALSO ALSO ALSO ALSO, ceo identity is intentionally ambiguous, and ch1 is non-canon to my timeline, just to set things up. And so, I do have a CEO theory, I've used. Can u guess the CEO?
work: https://archiveofourown.org/works/79845236/chapters/209545306
Bro, I thought something was wrong with William but she genuinely hates everyone, aka her own kids. It's a miracle she accepted his confession, because she's rejected living with him 50 times (hes stubborn ig), she's been a jerk to Michael, and now dislikes Elizabeth.
Here's the videos of her tyranny:
https://reddit.com/link/1umbe8q/video/9arggg8cwzah1/player
https://reddit.com/link/1umbe8q/video/4xppjgkewzah1/player
other examples of her rejecting William's invites to live:
okay, tbf, William first struggled with Michael and Elizabeth too, I'm crine, but Mrs Afton is on a streak of rejecting offers like friendship or housing
here's William accidentally upsetting Elizabeth:
Here's Michael failing to comfort William after Mrs Afton rejected to live with William:
But then things got resolved peak
also i think Michael is cursed he pissed Dave off too LMAO
so far, Mrs Afton now has most positive interactions with William
https://reddit.com/link/1umbe8q/video/zucasxfuxzah1/player
forgive potato laptop
Just watched F is for Family and oh my god... They're literally the Afton family...!
Alright, so where do we begin?
For beginners, UCN is a game where you defend yourself from 50+ animatronics (40 customizable from the roster). The main lore around this game is commonly surroudning TOYSNHK (which will be explained further), the UCN protagonist, OMC, and the cutscenes, such as Bear Of Vengeance, TCTHYS, and such.
TOYSNHK is the abbreviation of The One You Should Not Have Killed, heavily implied to be the Vengeful Spirit tormenting the protagonist. (I say 'implied' because there **are** theories that propose more than one vengeful spirit.)
From what we know in UCN, this spirit is basically:
• Killed by the protagonist (Hence the name)
• Male (Mangle and Withered Chica refers the spirit using he/him)
• Heavily implied to be the spirit of Golden Freddy (The 49/20 cutscene, Fredbear easter egg, etc. For more information, see GoldenTOYSNHK)
• Likely affiliated to Mediocre Melodies, based on the Mediocre Melodies voicelines
Several candidates have been proposed, currently the 4 most popular ones are Andrew, BV, David Murray and Cassidy.
There are 2 top proposed candidates: William and Michael. William as the candidate is much more popular for obvious reasons than Michael.
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I believe in BVTOYSNHK, and here's why.
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• BV and TOYSNHK are both males.
• BV's spirit is heavily implied to be in Golden Freddy. (See GoldenVictim)
• BV is implied to be vengeful in some way.
▪︎ There are examples such as in The Week Before, there is a route where you – as Ralph – were listening to the recording of the Bite Of 83 incident. After hearing a crying slund behind him, he spins around in his seat, sees something, all before the sound of a crunch is heard. Since the crying continued and Ralph was bitten right after that, this could suggest that the spirit of BV is vengeful for the bite and attacking Ralph is one of signs of his aggression.
▪︎ Also, Golden Freddy can be seen a violent entity, since in FNAF 1 if he appears in your office, if you don't flip up the monitor fast enough, he'll surely crash your game in PC with his special jumpscare, or freezing it if you're playing in mobile.
If you think that I would propose theories on how William killed BV... nope. I'm into MikeUCN. Now that would be a hot take, sure, but you may read this below:
- Ennard: It's confirmed that we play as Michael Afton in SL. That's the time where Ennard was created. As we know Michael's skin used as disguise then he vomited the amalgam to the sewer. There is no evidence of how William could've known Ennard prior FFPS, where it had become Molten Freddy.
- Rockstars, Posh Pizzerias, Trash & The Gang, etc: The salvage animatronics were in the underground chambers, so William and the MCI (assuming the TOYSNHK is one of the MCI victims) wouldn't know about the public animatronics.
The Nightmares: Under BVDreamer, BV recognizes these animatronics and can recreate them necause he had known them from his own dreams, while under MikeDreamer, Michael would recognize them becayse he had nightmares about it. (One of the evidence for MikeDreamer is that in the Security Logbook there are drawings of the Nightmares.)
So how BV could recreate these with the Nightmares excluded?
He attached to Michael because of unfinished business, just like how Andrew attaches to William due to him wanting Afton to suffer for revenge. Hence how he could witness Ennard, Rockstars, and the other animatronics that Michael would've known about.
• Pigpatch's unused voiceline, "Have you begun to realize yet where you are yet? and who I am? Or are you still so delirious and confused that you still think you are a night guard? You'll understand, and even if you don't, it doesn't matter to me either way."
• Mr. Hippo calls protagonist young, "Not as young as I used to be, as you can see. I used to get to do all sorts of things. Y-you're young, you're vibrant, you have that sort of pep in your step."
Assuming WillUCN, all of the TOYSNHK have their main flaws:
- Andrew's affiliation with Golden Freddy is questionable, let alone of his canonicity in the games.
- Cassidy's gender is unclear, implied to be a girl (Golden Freddy's girly laugh, Page 31 Logbook – Happiest Day, etc.)
- We don't know for certain about how BV was killed by Afton.
- David? Basically same reason for BV
But with MikeUCN, BV becomes the best candidate for the TOYSNHK:
- Both are male.
- Both are heavily implied to be Golden Freddy's spirit.
- Both are killed by the protagonist. (Yes, it's heavily implied that Michael Afton is the Foxy Brother in FNAF 4.)
This is Occam Razor. It's a problem-solving principle that states that when faced with 2 or more competing explanations, then the one that makes the fewest unnecessary assumptions should generally be preferred. This is common used in scientific researches – often referred as parsimony – and perhaps, everyday's logic where our minds generally prefer simpler explanatiosn over than the complicated ones.
- The screaming in the background could be William screaming in actual hell.
- OMC telling "Leave the demon to his demons" could be since BV is angry a lot, he adjusted his words to be fitting into the young child's mind so he can have a chance of persuading him better. Although, this is speculative.
Known fires are in FNAF 3 and FFPS. For FNAF 3, there are many other candidates for the FNAF 3 arsonist. (See FNaf3Arson, though this is likely speculative)
- Michael had indeed killed **more than one.** He killed the salvage animatronics by bringing them to the pizzeria, which led them being burned by Henry.
Yet these animatronics should've been killed; for Scraptrap, he should be killed to stop him from causing harm again, for Lefty & Molten Freddy they should be killed so they could be freed and rest, Scrap Baby probably mix of both reasons (leaning more to latter reason).
So, we got the list of who Michael had killed. We got salvage animatronics, whom they should be killed for reasons mentioned above. On the list we also got BV... He's just a timid boy who did nothing wrong, yet he got bullied, his life made hell by his own brother, to the point where Michael and his friends pulled a prank on him by putting him inside the Fredbear's jaw....
*Crunch. Then a hospital flatline.*
You shouldn't have killed that one, bro.
So.. that's my take on UCN, that we play as Michael being tormented by his vengeful brother! I hope you made it well to the end. Now, the last but not least question....
"Do you certainly believe everything you just said?"
Honest answer? No. Not 100% atleast. There might be still things out there waiting to be discovered, and I don't claim that BVTOYSNHK paired with MikeUCN is the definitive truth of UCN. At most, I would say **currently the best one**, and even that, along with the other things I said above, it contains my opinion.
I'd like for you guys giving constructive feedback for me. After all, this is THEORIZING, so if we're wrong about it that doesn't outright means we're stupid, we just finally figured it out and learns more.
My first post here btw, and... have a nice day! Let me know your thoughts in the comments!
Considering MikeCare, Elizabeth also kinda still caring about Michael in SL before FFPS (where she was now at her lowest point in life), and Elizabeth being represented as Mangle under BV Bear of Vengeance? Also depending on whether you believe if the Toy Girl or Pigtail Girl is also supposed to Elizabeth or not.
What would his reaction be? The guy in the book shared the same name as Afton’s actor and Game Theories.