r/agentsofshield

So the eagle in the A is obviously a reference to the S.H.I.E.L.D. logo but I was thinking about what that O could represent and then it hit me like a helicarrier. Does anyone else think the O looks like the roof of the Triskellion? The headquarters of S.H.I.E.L.D.?

What does that mean? I think maybe we could be focusing on a more serious "real" S.H.I.E.L.D. cast/story. Not that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. wasn't real, but it was always about a specific team within the organization, prior to it's collapse and then S.H.I.E.L.D. came back in different forms but not quiet how it was prior to The Winter Soldier. Since then we've been mostly dealing with S.W.O.R.D., the DODC, and S.A.B.E.R.. What if this is Marvel's way of saying they are going to focus on a true rebuilt S.H.I.E.L.D straight out of their headquarters in the Triskellion, not in the bus, Providence, the Playground, Zephyr One, or the Lighthouse. It actually fits with how the Triskellion was shown rebuilt in the AOS finale.

I feel like this lines up with how Marvel leans into its Marvel Studios shows as being "real" Marvel. It's going to take a new perspective on S.H.I.E.L.D. and not just reboot AOS. A new S.H.I.E.L.D. spinning out of the events of The Winter Soldier instead of AOS directly. I also think the name Zodiac probably alludes to the terrorist organization from the comic books and in my opinion could be essentially a new form of Hydra.

I'm not going to expect all or any of the AOS cast to return or for them to deal with any of the elements AOS established but knowing Marvel they won't contradict any of it either. I'm really hoping they do fit in AOS easter eggs/cameos/reprising cast.

How many times can I type S.H.I.E.L.D?

I know that Season 6 isn’t everyones favourite and people would rather talk about any other aspect of the show, but given that the MCU is probably about to do a similar storyline with Doom I kinda want to talk about it.

Personally I thought that the concept of someone with Coulson’s face showing up after his death to mess with the team after the real Coulson died is a pretty interesting concept. But in execution it kinda went weird.

I think that in the first nine episodes of the season his character was actually fun and interesting. He managed to challenge May and Daisy who were still grieving the real Coulson and Mack who was trying to live up to him. But to me, what made him work was the fact that he WASN’T Coulson. He had Coulson’s face but other than a few surface similarities they were completely different.

Both Coulson and Sarge were leaders of a group of people who claimed to protect the world but the way they went about it was completely different. Coulson cared about the people who followed him and tried to keep them safe and did everything in his power to protect them always choosing to save them even if it risked the world. He was a flawed leader who let his emotions get the best of him choosing to save Daisy in S1 risking the Clairvoyant to find out about the GH formula or killing Ward in S3 and almost dooming the world to Hive. But he still did everything to save as many lives as possible and always pushed against compromise.

Sarge is the opposite of that. He saw his crew as tools and a means to an end. He lied to them and manipulated them and even killed them in cold blood in his quest to end Izel. He was willing to wipe out an entire city just to kill her. He had Coulson’s face and a few of his impulses but they had nothing in common other than basic similarities. Of course he is a hypocrite as his quest to kill Izel was driven by what he thought was anger and was in the end selfish anyway but he is still nothing like Coulson as while Coulson refuses to sacrifice his team he still is willing to sacrifice himself.

The thing is that the last few episodes threw all of that away to make it so that there was still a part of Coulson inside of him and that he was possessed by a spirit. There are still some amazing moments like “Kill me Skye” and the entire betrayal scene but all of the depth is gone for the sake of explaining his link with Coulson. (However the backstory itself is amazing IMO, using the prior lore of the show to create this Coulson clone but IMO he should have been a 1000 year old version who lost himself and became a completely different person over time).

IMO Sarge in episodes 1-9 and episodes 10-13 feel like completely different characters and episode 1-9 Sarge is so much better and more interesting.

Also I think that the MCU should take after earlier season Sarge with Doom and make him a completely different person with basic similarities with Stark.

So I finally got around to watching S7 after six years due to finally getting Disney+. Absolutely love the first six seasons and this one is also great.

However there is something that puzzles me. It is implied in the episode that the Chronicoms want to kill Malick and stop him from making his delivery to prevent the rise of HYDRA and then SHIELD.

The thing is that stopping HYDRA from creating the serum and creating the Red Skull wouldn’t stop their rise in WW2. Schmidt was the head of the Nazi science division long before he was injected and it was in fact his transformation that lead to him falling out with the Nazi’s.

But it gets worse. While Schmidt wouldn’t gain super strength he would still find the Tesseract and build his WMDs. The thing is that in this scenario there would be no Captain America to stop him as there would be no serum.

As a result HYDRA would not only rise, they would win.

So Daisy was definitely wrong about killing him to save lives.

Steve: “Guys?? I could use some help here.”

Loki & Peggy: completely locked into their own side quest 💀

Doom was fighting Steve, meanwhile these two were like “not our problem” 😭