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Some questions from a believer turned skeptic.
Adding some photos from hikes as a tax. There are no sasquatch but feel free to correct me if you see one.
A little context:
Many years ago (more than three decades) I got my first library card and found the section on legends and lore. I fell fairly deep down the bigfoot rabbit hole. I love it. Always have.
Explored locally in my hometown and enjoyed loads of campfire stories but never found anything that couldnt be explained rationally. In my early 20s I got involved with a bigfoot organization and fully immersed myself. Lots of reading, hiking, camping and expeditions. Photographing anything even remotely squatchy. This would be from about 2000 to about 2010. Active on the forums and message boards. Corresponded with some of the more famous folks, never made a name for myself but I didnt want to.
After a while, I began to notice how hard folks had to stretch the "evidence" that was being found. Hitting the trail gave me a love for solo backpacking that persists to this day and it gave me the opportunity to hike miles and miles in FL, NC, AL, NY, WA, CA, WI, MN, CO, PA and NV, domestically. Legitimate backcountry hikes that typically would be a full vacation and ran 3 days to a week at a time, covering between 20 and 50 miles.
That, coupled with the Randi forums started to push me in another direction. I reenrolled in school and now have a solid biology education. I worked for 2 years in a microbiology lab and I have a sincere passion for science, ecology, habitat conservation, wildlife in general but specifically reptiles and amphibians.
In other words, bigfoot gave me two of the most important parts of my life. Backpacking/hiking and biology. The legend gets my respect even if my personal belief is that it doesnt go much further than that.
Which brings me to my questions.
If Bigfoot exists and lives in the US, why hasn't it's DNA showed up in any environmental DNA samples?
I understand that some people will take umbrage at a few of the things im about to say.
I dont think that stories, casts or photo/video/audio are evidence without additional corroborating data. In other words, PGF would qualify (though I do personally think its a suit) because it was multiple witnesses, film, and casts. An eyewitness alone doesnt qualify in my opinion. A cast alone isnt enough. A video could be convincing but it would need to be verified as unaltered, and clearly depicting an in focus squatch at a reasonable distance doing something that a person in a suit could not do.
With that as a qualifier, what's your keystone evidence that keeps you interested? Is there a particular person or place that sticks out?
- If you arent a believer but rather are a "knower", and if you were me, prepping a backcountry trip with the intention of going to the place with the densest population of bigfoot...where would you go, what time of year and why?
Thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time to respond and again, I dont intend any offense with the things I'm suggesting.
Edit: Forgot about Pennsylvania!
The Albert Otsman story.
In 1924 a man just wanted to go on a vacation. Turned out it was a vacation he’d never forget.
In 1924 Albert Otsman decided he would go on a vacation in the remote mountains of British Columbia , He loaded up his pack grabbed his gold pan and rifle and hired a guy to take him into the Toba inlet.
His trip began with a boat ride to the inlet by a native man who would drop him off and pick him up in three weeks.
The two men got to shore and unloaded. The native man decided to stick around till the tide went down. They had lunch and chatted. Eventually the conversation turned to Sasquatch and Albert wasn’t sure of this. But the man told him he’s out there in the woods.
The man said his goodbyes and planned to come back in a few weeks to pick Albert up , and off he went.
Albert set off on his adventure. Hiking,exploring and camping out. He was three days in when he found a great camp spot and decided to stay a bit. After a day of prospecting and getting a grouse he called it a night and went to sleep.
That morning he woke up and found something had visited the camp that night some things strewn about, nothing was missing. Albert assumed it was a porcupine and that he would eventually make stew out of it.
That night he decided he’d keep his rifle ready a 30-30 and get the porcupine if it came back.
He woke up the next morning to find his pack dumped out but still hanging on the tree.
This time missing a bag of prunes and some flour. But he noted that the salt was still there and porcupines like salt.
He determined it was not a porcupine or a bear because a bear would have made a larger mess. He was thinking about leaving that site to find a new one but it was nice so he stayed.
That night he went to sleep but put his pack and rifle in his sleeping bag for safe keeping. In the middle of the night he was woken up by someone picking him up in his sleeping bag.
It was picked up by the top like a sack and Albert got jammed in the bottom.
Something was carrying him. He thought a horse at first but then realized it was like a man stepping. He was carried like a sack of potatoes for a few hrs up and down the mountains.
Finally he was dropped onto the ground and with his legs asleep he crawled out of the sleeping bag. It was still dark and he couldn’t make anything out. Eventually the sun came up.
He was in some sort of small valley in a small gorge.
That’s when he seen his captor. A big male Sasquatch. But it wasn’t just the two of them there was also an adult female , with two adolescent children a male and female.
The male and female adult Sasquatchs seemed to be fighting about what her husband just brought home. The kids looked with curiosity. Albert just sat there.
The first night he just ate some food from his pack and went to sleep.
The next day he made some coffee and debated on the idea of trying to shoot his way out and decided not to even try. He ate some food and observed his situation.
The kids became curious and began to get a bit closer, checking Albert out.
Albert just sat there for another day. The next day the kids were playing and being more curious about him. He made some food and gave the kids a can they played with it for a bit.
He took some sniffing tobacco and watched.
The male adult Sasquatch became interested in his sniffing tobacco , so Albert gave him a tin.
The Sasquatch took the whole tin and ate it. This made him go wild rolling around , pandemonium ensued. The mom screeching the dad swigged Albert’s old coffee and the kids most likely panicked and eventually the dad Sasquatch got sick , eyes rolling around. He sat down with his head between his knees.
At this point Albert knew it was time for his escape he grabbed his stuff and skidaddaled out of there. The mother Sasquatch tried to stop him but Albert shot a round over her head and that scared her away.
He climbed up the mountains and ran for his life hopefully not being followed. Eventually he was a couple valleys over and felt safer.
Eventually he seen or heard some logging in the area and made his way towards the Logging camp. Albert told them he was a lost prospector . They got him on a truck and to the beach then back to civilization.
Albert did not tell this story till 1957.
BFRO has a way better and detailed account of Albert actual story. It’s my all time favourite.
Sasquatch Chronicles
Do y’all have a comfort episode of Sasquatch chronicles? That no matter how many times you’ve listen to it you still enjoy it each time. Mines episode 903 the Kentucky massacre. The opening news bit followed by the intro. I love it.
Remembering an old, mysterious audio of a possible bigfoot attack
Not sure if this has been previously discussed on this subreddit (if so, I humbly apologize), but I recently got back into exploring the world of the sasquatch, and even began doing research to learn more as I was only a simple fanatic over the years until now.
And with that came a memory of mine unearthed after a little over a decade:
Probably when I was either 10 or 11 years old (and with unsupervised internet access), I was watching one of those "top 5unsolved/mysterious and creepy audio recordings" videos, and one of them distinctly caught my attention the most.
From what I remember, it was an audio recording of a 911 call between the dispatcher and a guy claiming that he'd seen or WAS seeing a large, unidentified black mass thingy attacking his dog that had been resting in the backyard. While stumbling over his words to explain the situation, shit jumped off when the thing literally THREW the dog. I'm not sure if it threw the poor thing over a fence or what, but definitely hurled it around somewhere.
At the time of watching, I think I had only recently learned of the sasquatch/bigfoot, but couldn't make a possible connection between that and this particular incident until some years later.
I could also be misremembering some of the details, but it's been so long since I last heard of the recording, and I'm not even sure if it's available online anymore. I guess that's why I'm making this post, because I want to confirm if it still exists, AND whether or not the whole thing was a hoax.
But I'm evidently sure the black mass was a sasquatch. I dunno, something about the way the guy was trembling over his words and freaking out (apart from the fact the thing was literally attacking his beloved pet), made me believe it was something otherworldly than a bear or wolf.
[One other detail to add is that the 911 recording was possibly dated in either the early 2000s, or very late 90s from what I infer with the quality. Could be wrong though.]
Oldest Sighting
I'm looking for the oldest Bigfoot sightings (or reports), and this is the oldest I've found in Canada, circa 1875.
"The Reverend A. Fulton Johnson, born in 1866, told his son Ken Johnson that when he was a boy living near Moncton, there was a creature that used to be seen at the edge of the woods near his house, very stocky, with long arms and its whole body covered in hair."
Are there any older sightings? Let me know.
What’s the best evidence we have outside of PGF for Bigfoots existence?
Currently doing an English speech about the existence of Bigfoot (exciting I know)
What’s the best evidence we’ve got to prove the creatures existence?
(Won’t be including the skunk ape photos I’ve seen and heard a lot of evidence that they were faked)
The Bauman story. Told to Theodore Roosevelt
Some time in the mid 1800s Two trappers and hunters decided to go further into the wilderness to find more game. What they found in that valley was not the animal they were looking for.
This story starts near the Montana Idaho border, At the salmon & wisdom divide
A man named Bauman and his unnamed friend decided to push further into a valley to find more beaver to trap. This valley had a reputation of being nefarious , natives claimed it held spirits and a man had previously disappeared there.
Nonetheless they packed up their horses and struck out. As the got deeper into the valley they decided to stage their horses in a meadow and proceeded on foot through rough terrain.
They found a suitable spot and made camp in a small flat area among tall trees next to the salmon river facing a rugged mountain side.
Bauman and his friend headed out to set beaver traps. Upon returning to camp they noticed a visitor had stopped by and ran sacked the camp , breaking down the lean-to and dumping out their belongings.
The men made a fire and fixed the camp back up. The other man took note to the tracks and explained to Bauman that if it was a bear it had walked to two feet. As they looked over the tracks it was clear it was definitely bipedal.
That night as they slept Bauman was awoken by a large looming figure. He shot his rifle into the darkness, a crashing through the woods was all that came of the situation.
The following morning they made camp two men went out to check traps and find beaver.
Jeane Hiebert's Photos
Does anyone know more information about these photos?
Where were they taken?
Bigfoot Video and Audio Compilation Part 2
I had screen recorded a bunch of purported Sasquatch videos and also a bunch of audio. I decided to splice them all together for this presentation. USE YOUR BEST JUDGMENT. These are videos I found interesting. There’s disclaimers in the notes. I’m sure a few fakes slipped by but that’s not my intent. It’s stuff that caught my eye or ear. Hope you enjoy. The question of Sasquatch is a binary one. They are either real or not real. There is NO IN BETWEEN! They either exist or they don’t exist. All it takes is one eyewitness to be telling the truth for the entire topic to be real. All we need is one piece of physical evidence for the entire topic to be real. We have thousands of pieces of evidence! It’s not my fault you don’t own any Bigfoot books! It’s not my fault you are interested in a topic you know nothing about. If the mid tarsal break doesn’t roll off your tongue, I’m probably not gonna listen to you. If you know more about Bob H than Dr Jeff Meldrum, I’m certainly never listening to you.
Compilation
Since there's both good and bad evidence, I wanted to make this list so people don't have to do so much research on things that are known to have been debunked.
Let me know if I've missed any.
- Jeane Hiebert Photos (2009):
Kens Carpentery Footage: https://youtu.be/vhnb4SXRqco?si=baq_yYN-vY_x-19T
Mark Anders Georgia Photo: https://imgur.com/JHSjXb8
Melissa Hovey Photo (2012): https://www.artistfirst.com/bigfoot2012-04.htm
Mike Paterson Audios: https://youtube.com/@sasquatchontario?si=Jllhuqat1RNwzShR
Minnesota Iceman (1967): https://cryptidz.fandom.com/wiki/Minnesota_Iceman
Pennsylvania Golf Course Trail Camera: https://imgur.com/tVvfQkv
Peter Caine Dog Training: https://youtube.com/@petercainedogtraining?si=x9ByE5bCb4QLl1Lj
Ranchita Wood Ape (2017): https://www.reddit.com/r/bigfoot/comments/utnmew/the_two_photos_i_return_to_again_and_again/
Randal Hart Videos: https://youtube.com/@randalhart5456?si=5pAGNFNtC1svdHvd
Rick Dyer and Matthew Whitten Bigfoot (2008): https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2563307/Bigfoot-body-discovery-dismissed-as-a-hoax.html
Backcountry Discoveries (Sony Vator) Videos: https://youtube.com/@backcountrydiscoveries?si=aN4zY5AtHOku9ihU
Sonoma Footage (2000s): https://youtu.be/yiiICn-wTQA?si=vfCx6KaxZwo-QkxP
Silverton Bigfoot (2023): https://youtu.be/hSvtzuG8prU?si=8Dpdn1L7HDOnmigl
Skunk Ape Footage (2013): https://youtu.be/xb9YcIlkl_c?si=aqEQdK3Lva6_IXWb
Todd Standing Videos: https://youtube.com/@discoveringbigfoot?si=TQv0kfIJeLOuQN4h
Window Bigfoot (2017): https://youtu.be/NDT7iAB8XGY?si=FigcZt161aK86QGR
Sasquatch conference
North Bay sasquatch conference
October 10th 2026 10am-5pm
St. Brice Anglican church
1225 cassells st. North Bay, Ontario
Contact info:
Facebook: Andy Mack
Reddit: sasquadsigma
X: sasquadsigma
Instagram: sasquadsigma
Tik tok: sasquadsigma
Youtube: sasquadsigma
Email: sasquadsigma@gmail.com
BFRO Report 79293: Farmer family has a daylight sighting of a bigfoot and gets brief video 50 miles NE of Dallas
bfro.netGood Lord, Cabin in the Woods guy is a Goof, what is that arrow even indicating 😆
Best Photo Evidence
What do you think is the best photographic evidence of Bigfoot (besides the Myakka ape)?
(And I mean photos that show a bigfoot, not footprints)
Feedback for an App Extracting Sightings from Youtube
I am an app developer.
i have been tasked with building an app
that data-mines bigfoot sightings from relevant youtube videos channels and youtube podcasts then turns the data into a searchable database.
it already contains data for several thousand sightings.
I’d love to know from people passionate in the topic what kind of data would you want to search for?
How would you use such a tool if it were available to you?
thanks
Metal Door Slamming Audio
Does anyone know of any examples of those metal door slamming shut sounds people often talk about hearing when out in squatchy areas? I want to listen to a good few and see if I can compare it to natural volcalizations or other sounds of other primates.
Edit: If anyone knows any examples of rapid wood knocks, that would be great as well. That specifically I want to compared to the hollow sound that comes out of gorillas when they beat their chests. I understand that woodpeckers can sound like this but I've heard that there are instances where it's too loud to be caused by a woodpecker, but I I don't see if rapid knocks like people describe are possible. Generally I wanna actually see if most of these examples sound woody or not or more like rapid popping
My synapsis of Bigfoot
So. My fire was lit maybe about 18 months ago. Life long interest, recently retired at 53 and learning as much as possible. Way deep into the rabbit hole after trips, adventures, discussions. Property owner with millions of trees, trying to learn more.
This is my index of things I have heard, read and viewed. I'm not here to argue about right or wrong, but to catalog things for myself and my crew. Please help contribute to the list with constructive input, not judgement.
These are North American wood apes.
These are human / ape hybrids.
These are Neanderthals.
Big foot was brought to this planet by aliens.
Aliens bred Bigfoot.
Bigfoot decend from Niphilim.
There are many types of bipedal primates.
Bigfoot, Yeti have many different types, colors, sizes and physiological form.
Brown, Black, cinnamon, white, grey.
Bigfoot can be up to 12 feet tall and weight 1500 pounds.
Their arms extend beyond the hips.
Bigfoot eyes are reflective.
Bigfoot eyes project light. Orange, red, yellow, green.
The feet are up to 20 inches.
Bigfoot are hyper aware beings that do not use any form of technology, including fire. Therefore they have better vision, hearing and spatial awareness.
They are very strong, and have large muscle mass.
Shoulders can be 4-5 feet wide.
Reduced neck and extreme trapezoids.
Typically five toes, but three toes are reported.
The females have breasts and the gestation period is a year.
They have children every 7 years.
They are omnivores. They eat meat, but prefer organs/offal over flesh. They eat everything raw.
They smell very bad- like rotting meat and wet dogs.
Some females smell good like flowers.
They have glands like skunk for pheromones.
Some are repulsive and disgusting.
Some Bigfoot are well groomed.
They have family units, clans and communities.
They are very quiet.
Bigfoot can spider crawl and leap in large bounds.
Bigfoot howl, scream and imitate animals.
Bigfoot is an Apex predator that has killed humans, as we have killed them.
They eat humans.
Bigfoot travels in creek beds, river bottoms.
They nest in large bird type nests of woven branches and vines.
They migrate with food.
They travel extensive routes
Woo:
Bigfoot can cloak.
Bigfoot can teleport through portals.
Bigfoot can mindspeak.
Bigfoot can speak English.
Bigfoot are taken off world by Greys for training, and some don't like a lot and some don't come back.
They were brought here by Greys, and they love it here.
Ultrasound is used to stun prey and for area denial.
They see Infrared light.
There are mean murderous Bigfoot, and nice hippie Bigfoot.
Orbs and UFOs are associated with Bigfoot sightings.
Okay- what else am I missing?
Again, no judgement or negativity. Just spit out what you know or have learned. Thank you!
My third contribution here. Two hour long witness testimony from Katrina, a Pennsylvania woman who had a face-to-face encounter with an invisible Sasquatch in front of a tree structure, with another person present. Two separate tree structures described, third prior incident described with stalking.
Update: somebody from this group messaged me and indicated that they've had a encounter not very far from this location less than 5 minutes drive connected to the same Green belt. I have connected Katrina and this individual. The person from this group is actually going out to look for these exact tree structures in the coming days. I'll come back with any photos and updates. Katrina has indicated she's open to being contacted by anybody genuinely interested in her story who may be located in the same area and has something similar to share. You can DM me and I will connect you if appropriate. Thank you
Hi everybody, my name is Jim. I hope everyone is having a nice Sunday
Katrina, was hiking with a friend in State Line Preserve in Kennett Square, PA
an 85-acre park in Chester County, PA, when 15 minutes into the trail, they find this 6-foot woven tree structure made out of young saplings bent together at the top. It literally looked like an igloo. Katrina immediately points it out because it looks way too precise and crafted to be a natural tree fall.
This is the start of the interview portion about this encounter, including the description of the first tree structure. So you can jump right to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK_AU88PyhM&t=1777s
They keep walking for another half-mile and find a second one. This one is way bigger—about 8 feet wide—and all the grass and undergrowth inside is completely matted and flattened down, looking exactly like a giant bed where something massive had been sleeping.
Katrina gets curious and takes one step off the trail to get a closer look. The second she moves toward it, something huge, completely invisible, and right in front of her face lets out a massive, deep growl and huffs at her. She said it sounded like a literal bull, and the wall of sound hit her so hard she felt it vibrating inside her chest. The hair on her arms stood up, and she noped right out of there.
Also if you're interested, she does describe a prior encounter which she also believes was Bigfoot and involved intense stalking of her in a rural rental home, that ultimately led her to barricading herself in the bedroom.
This one starts at around 11 minutes 36 seconds. So depending on how much you want to digest, there's your two starting points to get right into the Bigfoot first hand witness testimony with no BS. This event happened about six months ago.
Thanks everybody have a nice day Jim