r/davidfosterwallace

Pale as in dead

King as in best writer of his generation

I have nearly finished reading The Pale King. I read Infinite Jest six or seven months ago, and I enjoyed it so much. I'm glad I read IJ before TPK because the latter feels like Wallace's more mature novel (which is to be expected, considering he was a decade older writing it), and IJ gave a full and complete primer for how Wallace engages with novel-writing.

The Pale King feels like the beginning or one section of a story which involves some sinister happenings at the Midwest R.E.C. in 1985. All the characters are making their way there, and, like the journey to the Convexity with Don Gately and Hal and Joelle in Infinite Jest, the big events and plot points don't happen on-page. Wallace shows that you don't need to have them occur on the page. Wallace shows that plot is subordinate to theme. Unlike the plot, the themes of this book are introduced, developed, and completed. They follow a full and fulfilling arc, and now I am near the end and am grateful for the experience Wallace has led me on exploring these ideas.

The dozens of vignettes scattered throughout the novel come together to provide a multifaceted exploration of the same few memes. Wallace doesn't try to hide the themes: he puts them in the mouths (or internal monologues) of various characters and narrators.

1. Citizens in contemporary America have outsourced their morality to the government, and believe that following the law is the best way to be a good person.
2. You can achieve anything in contemporary America if you are capable of enduring boredom.

These are two major metaphysical objects that I think Wallace was exploring. The depth of the discussion surrounding the first point in the stuck-in-the-elevator chapter really struck me, and I saw Wallace being super sincere through the mouth of Glendenning. Is it explored other places through the novel? Well, consider "Irrelevant" Chris Fogle's father's career scrutinizing fine print of city liability contracts, work the type of which eventually renders his family unable to reasonably seek recompense for his wrongful death. Every litigant demonstrated how loopholes in the law free them from liability; everyone follows the law but no one does the right thing.

And then the second point of course is perhaps the central theme. I love how he explores this theme in "Backbone:" the kid believes he can do the impossible, and the "work" involved is sitting in one strained position for hours, days, weeks, months, years.

I'm just scratching the surface to try to show you how I am seeing these themes explored. I'd say there are more themes, given more glancing treatment. But they all serve the same tone, pacing, progress... and they all serve the large themes... I am very curious what the actual plot is involving the excitement at the REC. I will have to read the last few subsections and see what more detail I can glean.

This is something I wouldn’t actually expect, but if anyone could pull it off, it seems PTA would be the guy, especially because of the director’s adaptations of various Thomas Pynchon novels, an author DFW was inspired by.

I have 200 pages left in this behemoth. Started back in February, right after Valentine’s Day. Loving every minute of it, very stimulating read after spending the last few years reading Pynchon, Gaddis, Gass etc. I will say I was expecting more of their influence but DFW reminds me most of the master DeLillo. Please rally me up as I race towards the finish line

Beautiful section

If Infinite Jest enough to understand DFW? Or should collect all of his books, which is impossible for me?

Yes. From 1953 to 1964, the CIA's infamous MK-Ultra program and the US Army tested LSD on soldiers, often causing subjects severe psychological distress. Similarly in Infinite Jest, a US Army early DMZ test-subject remains thought to have permanently lost his mind, even though he'd been found in his cell afterwards singing show tunes in a scary deadly-accurate Ethel-Merman-impression voice. Today, Carlisle claimed that this Army convict's condition is not the same as Hal's because Hal did not lose his mind, but that's not accurate. There aren't any mixed signals, and it isn't ambiguous. After being dosed just before 0500h. 20 November Y.D.A.U., Hal's increasingly bizarre behavior finally led to him being sent to the ER on a psychiatric stretcher, obviously because he appeared to have lost his mind. As he acknowledges to himself a year later in November Year of Glad, he's never recovered and can no longer communicate, so still appears to have lost his mind. That's clearly why C.T. and deLint are unwilling to let him speak for himself, and why he will once again get sent to the ER on a psychiatric stretcher. DMZ alters the ingester's perception of time, which might explain his erratic movements looking like a time-lapse, but obviously not the administrators' perception since they've not ingested DMZ themselves. The only reason readers know that Hal actually hasn't lost his mind is because they get his internal thoughts from the novel's narrator, who can hear them. Everybody else, including C.T., deLint, and the University's administrators, cannot hear them, so think that Hal has lost his mind. The Leavenworth convict who appeared to have lost his mind could nevertheless sing show tunes perfectly, just like Hal, who also appears to have lost his mind, can nevertheless play show tennis perfectly. There's no business like show business.