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Japanese Level 2 Update - 300 Hours

Hello dreamers, I’m back with 300 hours.. Some of you may recognize me from the Dreaming Spanish subreddit, where over the last two years I posted my updates as I worked my way through the 7 levels. After some time doing some French, I decided to switch to Japanese as it interests me more ultimately.

Progress since 100 hours

I have definitely noticed more comprehension as I’ve gotten more input, but the progress is very slow. I’m hovering around level 40-50 on Natural Japanese’s website, and around a N5-N4 level on Youtube videos. I’ve found that my comprehension varies heavily depending on the content of the video. Cooking/food videos are the most comprehensible because so many beginner videos focus on food. Thinking back to my time with Spanish, I do feel like I’m around where I was at 150 hours back then, which is to say, starting to notice the separation of words, the sounds of the language, and more common grammatical constructions. 

I am repeating a lot of content at this stage. There simply is not enough beginner content to get to 600 hours, and even if I repeat everything on Natural Japanese and Youtube within my range, I will come in under 600 hours. I hope that as I get more hours, intermediate content will start to unlock as there seems to be more of that type than any other content online. 

The biggest issue with CI in the Japanese space is that many creators are still finding their feet. I mentioned this in my last update, but it’s very frustrating to find a potentially good channel and then they ruin their videos with hardcoded subtitles, or constant English interjections. It feels like once I break through the beginner stage for good, I won’t have this problem. 

I am able to listen to some very basic non-video content, like Nihongo con Teppei, but most podcasts are still too difficult. This also tracks with my Spanish journey, where at level 2 the only podcasts I could manage were super beginner stuff like Cuentame and Chill Spanish. 

Reading is still pretty much impossible. I have noticed I recognize common kanji/words, which is cool because I have not studied kanji pretty much at all since the beginning. I’ve also noticed that hiragana is pretty easy for me, but katakana is more difficult as it comes up less frequently. My plan is to try a few very simple graded readers during the next level and see how it goes. 

Tools I am using

I am still using NativShark, but I have slowed down from doing daily lessons because the reviews were building up and taking a ton of time each morning to do. I still do a lesson every once and a while, but it is definitely not my priority at the moment. 

I have all but stopped using Anki, but I do plan to add it back in soon, as I think it will help me speed up acquisition. The main roadblock with Anki is that it’s just super boring and I don’t feel motivated to do it. 

I gave up on all other tools, like Wanikani and RTK. I don’t like the amount of time for very little return that they offer. 

Plan Going Forward

I will continue doing what I’ve been doing. The method I used for Spanish definitely works for Japanese, but I can see why things take so much longer. There are no cognates whatsoever (besides borrowed words, but even they sound different enough that I don’t immediately recognize them) and the opposite grammar is still a lot to wrap my head around just yet. These first couple levels are basically about building that base that already existed in Spanish, and once that’s set, I can begin to make more rapid gains. Still, I am pleased with what I’ve accomplished so far. The fact that in just 4 months I have gone from Japanese being completely foreign sounds to being able to follow beginner videos is a huge achievement, and I’m excited to keep progressing forward.

Please leave any questions below and I will do my best to answer them.

Thanks for reading!

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u/herovillainous — 4 days ago

Hitting level 6 in my journey learning Italian

Here is another update in my journey using primarily CI for learning Italian. As I have mentioned in my other posts, I am a heritage speaker of Spanish so I have halved the hours needed for the levels based on the Dreaming Spanish roadmap. 

By 320 hours, Easy Italian was accessible. I still struggled with the more difficult speakers but by the end of 500 hours I’d say I can understand nearly any speaker on their street interview videos. I found I could even understand them when they were wearing masks, which previously was not doable at all. 

By 325 hours, I could now understand Nicolo Balini without too much effort. At 500 hours, all his videos are accessible and I usually only have trouble when there are multiple people talking at the same time. 
At 350, I went out of my comfort zone and was able to understand this video (https://youtu.be/c-1h5Cdaqx4?si=mCH5ZDsseUej3z0q) and that gave me confidence to branch out. I wish I had kept track of which videos were accessible at certain hours but it was a busy summer!

At 400 hours I began to do more speaking. I was not avoiding speaking but I did want to focus on CI. I found that with the AI on Duolingo, I felt much more fluid and that I could get my point across albeit with very simple concepts.  As I progressed, I had even more fun with speaking and could even sometimes find different ways to say things if I didn’t know the word.  I attached some photos with transcripts from my conversations. Sometimes I did insert Spanish when I didn’t know the Italian word for it. 

By 460 hours , I had so much more confidence speaking! It was crazy how much progress I had with speaking after 50 additional hours of input. I will try to attach photos of feedback from the Langua app at around 460 hours. At this point I think I will be able to communicate in Italy during our upcoming vacation without too much trouble, although more complicated things are certainly still out of reach. 

Now at 500 hours, I have a much broader range of what I can watch! I don’t think every video is within my reach yet but the ones that are not tend to have very quick speech, people talking at the same time, and more advanced stuff, I’d say like C1 level. 

I will be super excited to post my update at 750 hours when I finish the roadmap!

u/Domi3214 — 5 days ago
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Websites like dreaming Spanish for other languages with as much content

I want to make sure whatever language I start next has enough content to get me to a high level and not me having a hard time getting content haha

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u/Specialist-Show9169 — 13 days ago
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